Ever get into Trouble at School?

[Perseus]

Extreme N’s (especially extreme NP combination) are by nature rebellious, and unconventional. If they are in a class with a structured SJ teacher than interprets their resistance to "coloring between the lines" as disobedience, both teacher and student are in for a long year.
http://www.oswego.edu/plsi/atrisk.htm

 

[Ermine]

Nope. I've found that I'm better off passively obeying the rules so no one bothers me. I'll do the homework no matter how stupid it is just to play the part of the "good student".

However, I've been very close to writing several petitions against school rules I find stupid. Most of my clashing with SJs is contained at home with my mom, not the teachers or principal. Also, my NP isn't as strong as the IT part, so I keep my rebellion to myself most of the time.

 

[Perseus]

Nope. I've found that I'm better off passively obeying the rules so no one bothers me. I'll do the homework no matter how stupid it is just to play the part of the "good student".

However, I've been very close to writing several petitions against school rules I find stupid. Most of my clashing with SJs is contained at home with my mom, not the teachers or principal. Also, my NP isn't as strong as the IT part, so I keep my rebellion to myself most of the time.

INTJs get on well at school. Such are small differences. See the Paragon test on the other thread. This is one of the tests I would recommend. About the only one so far.

 

[Thread Killer]

I'm not at all inclined toward social rebellion and I do not think I ever was unless obvious injustice was being committed in the name of some stupid rule or regulation that made no sense.

 

[fullerene]

Not too bad here... I would do some things unconventionally... but teachers always worked with me because I had a reputation going. I never did anything too ridiculous, but they would overlook blowing off class discussions because they just assumed I was engaged and thinking. I never talked in classes... only with friends at lunch and during off periods... so even the teachers whose personalities I grated sharply against sort of bent rules for me. A good example is in our English class (AP, actually, which makes it even funnier), we had to memorize a 4 minute speech and give it in front of the class. My speech rolled in at just over 2 minutes, and it was utterly ridiculous... but hysterical (YouTube- Paranoid schizo complains to city about "rogue helicopter pilot")... but it doesn't matter because it fit the reputation. The teacher was sick of listening to FDR and Winston Churchill, so the psychotic speech broke up the monotony nicely... and even though it was only about half the assignment, I ended up with like the mid 90s for it.

So not really, you just tiptoe where you have to tiptoe and have fun when you can have some fun... I never had any trouble with em.

Also, any real social rebellion comes from me when, like threadkiller, my principles were violated by stupid rules. The problem I guess is that this seems to happen a lot more than it does for him. Cleaning houses, for instance, before company comes over strikes me as hypocritical... so I hate it. Wearing shoes causes joint problems and confirms a type of slavery to shoe companies (and society, which says you need them for some reason)... so it's very rare that I'll throw them on (like once every 2 or 3 weeks). These aren't problems in school, though... as my house is now my dorm room, and I only just realized that shoes didn't make sense a few months ago... so it hasn't had the chance to cause me problems in school yet. We'll see.

 

[PreAlgebra]

I only really got in trouble in an art class I had in high school. In thought it was really funny because I got in trouble because I thought too much "outside the box" in an art class where a person is encouraged to perform this particular task. The art teacher I had was probably the most narrow-minded teacher I have ever meet, which is insane for an art teacher. Anyways I found this rather indicative of what was wanted from me in school.

Luckily in college, I, like Cryptonia, had many teachers that seemed to work with me when I didnt want to play by certain rules. This seemed to be because I demonstrated my capabilities early on and after that they just kind of let me do my own thing. I am grateful for that.

 

[grrreg]

yeah, i hate authority , i admit it...i don't like being told what to do, especially if i sense the person telling me is a total moron.

needless to say my attendance at school was awful until my masters work when i finally felt like i was 'doing my own thing' for my own interests

other than that i was the kid that would encourage dissent without being pinned for it , i'm a rabble rouser by nature

 

[Radioactive_Springtime]

I never really cared for school. The assignments and homework never caught my attention, and if they did they never held it for long. Teachers knew I was intelligent and never understood why I cared so little.

This all changed this past school year. About three weeks in I got expelled for an incident that happened on school property. I was out of school for about 2 months before I started nightschool. I returned the second semester with a want to do better.

Maybe college will be different.

 

[EditorOne]

When I was in school the Vietnam war kind of absorbed all the serious rebellion in me.

I detested a lot of the teachers but didn't do much about it. This is indicative: A b bright friend did something out of line in study hall, and the teacher who had the monitor duty thought to punish him by giving him something singularly stupid and pointless to do. Yeah, really, teacher material? Anyway: The assignment was to count the bricks on each side of the stage at the end of the auditorium where we had study hall, two massive walls. Two minutes later my friend handed in the right answer, having arrived at it by simply counting across and up, multiplying and then multiplying by two, for each side of the stage. The teacher was quite suspicious that the result could possibly be obtained that quickly, and with an incipient "aha!" smile already playing across his face, proceeded to check the result: By counting every brick.

Really, does it get any better than that?

I tended to be too afraid to openly defy teachers even when principles were at stake.
That changed at college.

 

[Vrecknidj]

Nope. I've found that I'm better off passively obeying the rules so no one bothers me. I'll do the homework no matter how stupid it is just to play the part of the "good student".

This fairly closely resembled my own strategy for surviving adolescence. Of course, there was, for me, also the factor that my dad (ex-military, ISFJ to the max) needed to be appeased so that he wouldn't turn into more of an obstacle for my life than he already was.

So, it wasn't so much that I played that part to please the teachers as it was to make my own home life easier.

Dave

 

[Raison D'etre]

I got into trouble for writing about my teacher's teaching skills negatively in an essay that was supposed to be an overview of the school year. It was a shocker for her since I was her favorite student. She then started saying crap about me in front of the class. She didn't mention my name, but everyone knew it was me anyways. I then had to write a new essay because she wouldn't accept my original one. I later found out it wasn't even for a grade! It was just something she made us do for fun?!

There was an incident in Pre-K when I got a timeout because a girl said I wasn't playing with her. Another time I was yelled at by a teacher, whom had nothing to do with me, for looking at her student in a disgusted way. I didn't know what she was talking about, so I stayed silent. After a couple of minutes, one of my classmates "stood up for me" by saying my face was always like that. I could go on for hours... or not.

 

[Wisp]

@cryptonia

Was that link an actual recording of your speech? That was hilarious!
Rogue terrorist pussy helicoptorists? What were you thinking?

 

[Perseus]

It was trouble at school from day one, just about every day all the way through to when I left at 16. Most of the time, I just ignored it all. There were lots of times when I was accused of cheating when deigned to complete their stupid tests. Why, ask me to do the tetss if all they say I was cheating, just cause I got the answers through intuition instead of the laborious process of listing it all out. Then there was the bullies. When I knocked his two front teeth out, even the ostensible classmates would not speak to me at all.

 

[fullerene]

LOL Editor! That may be one of the greatest stories I've ever heard.

@Wisp
haha yes, that was the speech I used. I listened to it so many times showing it to people that I barely had to work to fill in the gaps and memorize it at all. I think I got away with it because I went to a christian high school, not a public one... and this teacher was one of the best there, so she absolutely loved it. I even dragged a podium over from the auditorum so I could shake it the same way.

haha it took people a good 20-25 seconds to realize that I wasn't making any sense... then they were laughing so hard I had to physically concentrate not to break rhythm (I don't do concentration very often, or well). Definitely one of my fondest memories from high school.

 

[Wisp]

... wow. I wish I could get away with that...

 

[October]

I never found something to rebel against at my school - well, only about my chemistry teacher but we, the students, pleaded with our class teacher to remove her, but he couldn't etc.
I do my homework because else I'll get a 2 and I wouldn't like that of course. But everything else seems pretty alright so I don't have why to get in trouble.

 

[Jordan~]

I operate too subtly to get into trouble. Besides, teachers at my school are generally awesome and I have no desire to break their rules. The ones that don't like me are the ones who don't recognise me - my maths teacher last year disliked me because he thought I was a layabout — scratch that, because I am a layabout — and was always telling me I'd need to work harder etc.; then I did exceptionally well in my preliminary examination and it sort of donned on him that I really did just find his subject too easy to bother working hard. After that he was much more pliant.

Another maths teacher was much the same, only he has a twisted sense of humour. I copied answers to a homework piece I deemed trivial from the back of the book in a rush the night before. He suspected it, and made me do the whole thing as he watched, with no working, just as I had handed it in. After I did so — twice — he continued to disbelieve me, and eventually extracted a confession by taking me into an empty room, shining a lamp in my face and leering at me from behind his huge beard. Thereafter, he had it in for me moreso even than before.

Most of my teachers, as I implied, give me no reason to defy them. The PE department, or "waste of school fees department", I ignore. If they try to punish me, I either outright disobey or do it in such a way that it's not a punishment, e.g. if made to run around a sports field, I walk and admire the view, and if made to repeat, I do the same again. Punishment exercises for failing to hand in homework will generally arrive a month late, in the unlikely event of my being caught.

 

[Jesin]

I got bored in math, too. That's why I'll be taking AP Calculus BC this coming school year.

 

[Wisp]

Not too shabby. My school held me back and gave me shitty math teachers because I was too far a ahead. Made take AP Stat. What a joke. I went ahead because I was epic at ALGEBRA, not STATISTICS! I made a 3 on the exam, though.

 

[Perseus]

Most teachers are SJ. I am a strong NP and not so strong on T.

Two-thirds of teachers and there was just continual trouble as they simply did not like me. The only teachers that did not continually persecute me were the History, Geography, Religious Knowledge, Music and Economics. The worst teachers were the Metalwork, Woodwork, Chemistry (because of the unauthorised experiments) and for some reason English and Mathematics. In the latter I was questioned about cheating, and in English they did not like my punctuation. It has not changed and I have had a million words published.

 

[Devercia]

My history and social studies teachers were always afraid of me for this reason:

http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/hilliker.asp

 

[zaradr]

did i ever get into trouble at school? all the time!

the first time i got into serious trouble was in grade school. at that time the computers we had access to were setup so that the programs we were allowed to use were all accessed through a text menu that would display a list of options and prompt us to enter the corresponding number. while i'm not a computer genius, and i certainly wasn't back then, i knew that i could hit ctrl-c to exit out of the stupid menu so i did and i found myself at the dos prompt. i knew my way around dos so i started looking around and i found an interesting directory called "gradeg" so i checked it out and there was this executable called "gg.exe" so i typed "gg" and a program called "grade guide" pops up. to make a long story short some other student ratted me out and i got into a lot of trouble for "hacking" the school computers though in my defense since there weren't any real security measures taken to prevent students from gaining access to a dos prompt i really don't think what i did could be considered hacking.

as for high school...

it was a catholic high school and i was an atheist so i guess getting into trouble was inevitable. i got into a lot of trouble in religion class which was mandatory at the time. while i have nothing against religion and christianity in general, religion classes always rubbed me the wrong way since rather than discussing religious topics openly it felt more like i was having catholic doctrines rammed down my throat. i had plenty of that waiting for me at home, i didn't need any more of it in school. we were given assignments along the lines of write an essay explaining why god is so great or design a poster detaling what god means to you by comparing him to something else. for the latter assignment, which i felt was so ridiculous that only an equally ridiculous comparison would do it justice, i made a poster which said "god is like wu tang clan, ain't nothing to f**k with." (i don't even really like rap) i tried to explain to my teacher that i was not trying to make a mockery of god but rather make a mockery of the assignment itself. that didn't go over too well and i was awarded the first of many suspensions.

i was also very critical of the teaching methods used by many teachers. while i kept this to myself at first, by the end of my first year i was fed up with friends and classmates coming to me for help on subjects which i came to realize they were more than capable of understanding if only the teachers would get off their lazy asses and take the time to explain it better. by my second year i was anything but quiet when it came to criticizing my teachers.

i also one day came to the conlusion that using capital letters was a useless convention and so from that day on i wrote and submitted all my papers using only lower case letters. teachers weren't very impressed.

what got me into the most trouble in high school was when a friend and i thought it would be funny to "stir the pot" so to speak with regards to a rumor floating around about the relationship between a certain math teacher and a certain student (both of whom we strongly despised). we decided to print out several pictures involving their smiling faces (taken from the school year book), other peoples' bodies, whips, chains, leather and a bit of nudity, and then post these pictures around the school. as usual someone ratted us out. due to our history of getting suspended for other pranks we had pulled, the school had had enough and decided to expel us. can't really say i blame them for that. it was a catholic school after all. anyways, we both walked away and never looked back.

so while i got into a lot of trouble in school but i had a lot of fun in the process. if i could turn back time and do it all again, the only thing i would do differently is not get caught.

 

[FusionKnight]

...I only just realized that shoes didn't make sense a few months ago...

ROFL!

So, I don't know what part of the world you're living in, but I'll tell ya, here in Minnesota shoes are really handy year-round. In January with sub-zero temperatures, my toes are nice and toasty inside their Sorels. In summer, I'm glad I'm wearing some protection against the egg-frying pavement, beaches, and general prickeliness of crisped grass, thissels, berry patches, etc.

 

[furbycow]

Nope. I've found that I'm better off passively obeying the rules so no one bothers me. I'll do the homework no matter how stupid it is just to play the part of the "good student".

I too abide by this principle. I rarely, if ever, study for tests yet still manage to do well on them. Most of my teachers probably don't like me too much since I don't see much point in participating in class discussions or show much interest in class. I also suffer from a severe lack of motivation in classes that don't interest me.

In one particularly terrible science class in junior high my friend and I decided to devote an entire lab report to discussing what a waste of time a 2 hour lab of watching water boil was. Needless to say, we both got failing grades on that assignment.

Another interesting story, is with one teacher last year who, I thought, didn't like me very much. When I, stupidly, proposed this idea to another student in the class, he decided to tell the teacher. The teacher's reply to this was, "I don't dislike you. I just think that you believe you can succeed without trying." The funny thing is, it's true and, guess what? It works.

 

[Fleur]

I have noticed, that it`s really hard for me to do school tasks, which requires to show emotions, to tell about myself or my family, etc. For example - one (or twice) somebody have given me a task about sorting my values (what makes me feel happy, what do I like better than everything else) - all, that I did, was just staring at the blank page and trying to think something (total failure), until my deskmate looked at my page and said, that I should write something (panical thinking process and some lame things as a result).
Same with essays about love, friendship and other things like that - staring at the page for while, making paper planes, getting on nerves of other classmates, who are trying to write (I`m not saying that I`m not trying, I just... can`t do it) and very negative work, which have nothing to do with my feelings, at the end. Once my teacher even made me redo one of these things, because "there were only cold facts" ... and I changed few words. Why don`t they let me to write essay about how I hate those annoying tasks instead?

 

[severus]

I have to write about three things that influenced my life. Thank (god) for block scheduling - not due until the day after next.
Okay so I have one: diabetes. But that is rather shallow. I didn't change who I am. But I will probably use it for lack of better options. "It made me more responsible." *rollseyes*
Then I am thinking about having something to do with my "skepticism" or "atheism" which I guess would go into the category of "idea" (out of event, person, place, or thing/idea).
Would it be quite odd to have Harry Potter? Probably. Anyways if I am talking about the actual books (which I would be) it would be a "thing" and I'd already have one for that category. I could make it a character from HP, but that would be ever more queer.
I need a person or a place. Erm. Orlando. I went there like every other year for vacation. But it didn't really affect me, did it? Maybe it instilled a love for travel in me...?
Jesus I hate these things.
/rant

 

[Raison D'etre]

I have to make a collage of things that I like. I was puzzled to find out that I couldn't think of anything that I really liked. I then started to wonder what "like" actually meant. I am also supposed to describe myself which is extremely hard because I can't. I don't know myself all that well.

P.S. It's due tomorrow and all I have on it is a tree.

 

[Devercia]

I have to make a collage of things that I like. I was puzzled to find out that I couldn't think of anything that I really liked. I then started to wonder what "like" actually meant. I am also supposed to describe myself which is extremely hard because I can't. I don't know myself all that well.

P.S. It's due tomorrow and all I have on it is a tree.

Is it strange that I can't relate to this at all? Being that I spend my entire day analyzing my own motivations its hard to imagine an INTP being the opposite. That said I can see problems articulating my conclusions. What do you think about when in thinking mode?

 

[Raison D'etre]

I do analyze many things about myself, but I never really created a visual or anything of myself, or maybe I just can't put myself into words. I always thought about things that I hate and why and things that I like as well. However, I couldn't find something that I really liked. Everything was just an interest not something I liked.

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

I love looking at a thread and seeing that it has been completely derailed, but anyway, Devercia, I may be wrong but saying you spend all day analyzing your self motivation makes you seem more like a feeler in that they are more aware of themselves.

@ Raison D'etre I can agree 100% with the fact i have no clue what i like or want to do. If someone were to come up to me right now and say, " hi, im magic..and i will give you any job you want", i would be shit out of luck. Its like when i was a little kid trying to figure out which toy i wanted to get when i went to the store with my mom, i would always spend 10 minuites going back and forth between a couple things i know i liked but didnt want to choose, i would eventually pick one, get home and be bored with the toy in no-time. This has held true throughout my life. I have never known what i wanted for my birthday/christmas and always end up getting money or clothes (exept when i wanted my guitar). Even today im riddled with the desicion of what i want to do with the rest of my life..and sofar i havent even begun to comprehend what i want to do.

 

[severus]

I hate when people (my doctor, wtf?) ask me what my hobbies are. Uh....reading....uh....
Intro is due tomorrow. Gah! I am half thinking about making something up. Randomly.
I also don't know what I like. I have a horrid fear that I am very impressionable.
---
Well back to the actual topic...
?

 

[Jesin]

I do analyze many things about myself, but I never really created a visual or anything of myself, or maybe I just can't put myself into words. I always thought about things that I hate and why and things that I like as well. However, I couldn't find something that I really liked. Everything was just an interest not something I liked.

Depending on the teacher, you could just put your interests on there and, when you hand it to the teacher, explain "I have no idea what I like, so these are some of my interests".

I have found that with most assignments like that, the teacher is much less precise about his/her language than I am, and what I consider to be "sorta close, but not quite right" is actually well within the scope of the assignment.

It's probably too late for this to make any difference in the outcome of that assignment, but maybe the next one.

 

[Fleur]

But what about math classes? Normally I do well, but the problem is - my ways may be so unconvential, that the whole task is messed up. I don`t take a lot interest in ordinary cases, especially, if I have to learn one thing repeately - the education program is too slow for me!

 

[zxc]

I hate having to show my working, since I usually skip writing down all the working out. If I write anything (other than the answer), I like to write down temporary numbers that I'm using in my calculations, so that I don't forget them before I put them into my calculator.

My chemistry class is crazy. The concepts make perfect sense, so I grasp them at once, but the teacher is of the opinion that everyone has to do the textbook questions and a ton of revision before they can possibly attempt the test (even though I've never done any homework or textbook questions, and I go extremely well in the tests). I guess that style of learning works well for others (mindless repetition), but certainly not for me. I need to understand the logic, and then everything else flows from there.

All the INTPs I know, including myself, have trouble with actually getting much writing done in an hour. It's a nightmare, because we actually think while/before we write, as opposed to everyone else, who all just write and write and write and write mindlessly.

There's this ENTJ friend of mine, who is just crazy. He is so driven to achieve, and is so organised. The funny thing is, despite all his preparation, he only achieves marginally better than me in humanities subjects (he wouldn't survive a minute in a scientific or mathematical subject).

 

[Jesin]

But what about math classes? Normally I do well, but the problem is - my ways may be so unconvential, that the whole task is messed up. I don`t take a lot interest in ordinary cases, especially, if I have to learn one thing repeately - the education program is too slow for me!

So go into honors/GT, skip a class, or both. That ^ is why I'm taking AP Calc BC as a high school sophomore.

 

[IntenseBurger]

I used to go to a private school. Those were great days! They had so many asinine rules that I just loved to bend/break/find loopholes in. My favorite was the belt issue. everyone had to wear belts, so i wore a duct tape belt to be different. they didn't like that. So they made a rule, belts have to brown. So I bought some brown duct tape. That went on for about a year until they gave me a belt to wear. I had them creating so many rules and fixing so many others.

Now I'm in college where no one cares what you do. I have nothing to rebel against.

 

[Jordan~]

All the INTPs I know, including myself, have trouble with actually getting much writing done in an hour. It's a nightmare, because we actually think while/before we write, as opposed to everyone else, who all just write and write and write and write mindlessly.

There's this ENTJ friend of mine, who is just crazy. He is so driven to achieve, and is so organised. The funny thing is, despite all his preparation, he only achieves marginally better than me in humanities subjects (he wouldn't survive a minute in a scientific or mathematical subject).

The first bit's more a blessing than a curse: We write less, but it's better. Quality over quantity.

I've experienced the same with NTJs. They revise and study so hard, then I go into the exam having half-heartedly flicked through some notes the night before (last exam season, my revision consisted of watching Grand Designs and pretending to read) and write occasionally tongue-in-cheek answers and get better results.

 

[zxc]

The first bit's more a blessing than a curse: We write less, but it's better. Quality over quantity.

I've experienced the same with NTJs. They revise and study so hard, then I go into the exam having half-heartedly flicked through some notes the night before (last exam season, my revision consisted of watching Grand Designs and pretending to read) and write occasionally tongue-in-cheek answers and get better results.

Oh yeah, I would call it a blessing, but for the marks that it brings! I don't care about grades, but my parents sure do. Sometimes I wish they thought I was like anyone else, so that they wouldn't expect so much from me.

Quality over quantity! I wish that motto was respected more by examiners...

I used to go to a private school. Those were great days! They had so many asinine rules that I just loved to bend/break/find loopholes in. My favorite was the belt issue. everyone had to wear belts, so i wore a duct tape belt to be different. they didn't like that. So they made a rule, belts have to brown. So I bought some brown duct tape. That went on for about a year until they gave me a belt to wear. I had them creating so many rules and fixing so many others.

Now I'm in college where no one cares what you do. I have nothing to rebel against.

That's great! I wish my school had a really stupid rule like that, so I could do something similar. The worst rule we have is 'no eating in the library' (which my friends and myself break daily, along with the 'no computer games' rule).

 

[Wisp]

The no games rule makes sense. Most internet flash games are ... suspect, as far as internet security goes.

 

[Fleur]

I`m in new school just for two weeks, and I already have broken one of most annoying rules, that I`ve ever heard - obligated voice test for school`s choir. I didn`t go to it. (I can`t sing. I hate to attend extra classes, which I don`t need. I`m not afraid of "terrible music teacher", which I don`t even know yet.)

 

[Devercia]

I love looking at a thread and seeing that it has been completely derailed, but anyway, Devercia, I may be wrong but saying you spend all day analyzing your self motivation makes you seem more like a feeler in that they are more aware of themselves.

Perhaps if those motivations are emotional; The vast majority of anything I do comes down to practicality, even if that notion is distorted by laziness("Its too much effort!"). Even then iT could focus on the self, especially if it is receiving info from N, however with INTPs this is usually Ne, not Ni. I know its ust my word, but I am about as T as one can get. Not to mention a common action of an F displayed in a T an F does not make. As Decaf mentioned and I agree, T can synthesize F within the context of T.

Back to topic, I was silenced today by my ENTP sociology teacher. I have a great interest in the subject but my devils advocate playing combined with interest driven outspokenness had me monopolizing comments to the subject, which are essential in his teaching method.

 

[Wisp]

*stands up and applauds Dev*

Nice argument. Also, we can, to some degree, use Si to gather info about our minds, but this can be limited, as it's only a tertiary. It also has a lot to do with how we remember things (remembering things by atmosphere, as opposed to detail)

 

[Kidege]

During my school years every single day was a struggle, particularly when the teachers thought they should "raise the educational level" and ended up adding mind numbing tasks. I liked it better when they would take it easy, focus on the kids with problems and let me daydream or read after I'd finished the assigned job.

When the classes were interesting I payed attention and tried to take good notes. Then I forgot it all till the day before the exam, when I'd review the notes in an hour (two, tops) and get an A the next day.

I figured out the logic of humanities on my own and thanks to the example my mother set at home. I regret I didn't do the same with chemistry and maths. That is, I learned them as they were taught -stupidly-, and consequently forgot them pretty soon. But I know that if I wanted to I'd get it.

I did highschool on my own, studying at home and taking some tests. It was awesome.
College, however, was not. Five years of self-censorship to avoid offending the teachers with my flippancy and sometimes greater knowledge. Of pretending I dug the technocratic spiel. Of trying to act like I had something in common with folks who were greatly interested in drinking, swinging and reality shows.

 

[ElectricWizard]

I got in trouble for writing this on the subject of punishments meeting crime in school, based on an event last year when during a boring history lesson on the Holocaust (to quote one of Kurt Vonnegut's characters on the atrocities of the Holocaust, "I know. I know. I know."), somebody teased a Jew and got an 8 minute lecture for it: "most teachers would be biased, and some may overreact to teasing Jews. I’m not sure why people would tease Jews, but lessons on the Holocaust aren’t exciting enough to give people much incentive not to."
It was for a generally unimportant class that, while better than many, gave us a load of homework for nothing. Anyways, I was asked to redo the essay because it was "offensive" and "condones racism" (well, I support free speech for everyone, deal with it), and got two long lectures on it. This would generally just be boring and stupid, but the best part is that this was in an essay on Human Rights in the school. Who says you can't win?

Then, of course, there's handing in homework late, etc.

 

[Gorgrim]

When I started in school at 6,to have a nice laid back teacher, and I was drawing/doing math all the time, having fun. They told me I was a math genius. I got into trouble for not ever doing homework,

I remember every school-parent meeting there ever was, the topic, "his brain is great, but he's not using it" came up, and totally threw me off the first time I heard it, the 2nd it was a clique. The biggest problem was the teachers. I had to sort of run my own game to learn anything. But i'm afraid I don't remember much from the 7-12years old part of school. It really wasnt a great time.

I eventually gave up on almost all homework. On tests, with intuition and exluding technique in hand, I scored well though.

So in 9th grade, before highschool and all that, I wasn't there 50% of the time. I never did any homework. AND horribliest of all we had to have a test examination infront of the whole class, analyzing a danish writer's text. When the year ended, I got a B in every class I had, because I basically hadn't done any effort in any of them. But I was supposed to A
english that I was supposed to be decent at. I learned I just thought I was great. Next year I special A++ on my english written exam tho. And a A on the oral, so turned that around.

the higher you seem to get in the education ladder, the better the teachers get. Or so it seems.

I'm now in high school.

There's 30/70 ratio of good or bad teachers. Some will give you more freedom basically. It is a problem when faced with teachers who will only let you listen to what he's currently speaking of. ( regardless of what it is )


1. Get into trouble because 1. I don't "pay attention",
2. Resting my head on the desk( see 1. )
3. Straying off the path of what the task is, especially in Art.

So, I think im doing okay. The teacher's are quite forgiving, really. Atleast I'd like to hope so.

But the best thing about school work, is intuitively guessing the answers of a test, while everybody else is reading their arses off to find the answers.!