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ENTP Intro (video)

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Am I confusing things or did you just post this in the Personality Cafe ENTP forum?
Just read the description, you did. Nice video. I'll write a proper comment now.
 

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Yes, that's why I give a shout-out to PersonalityCafe on the video. If I had considered that I might be posting on INTPforum I would have made an inclusion. But yeah, my best buddy surfs INTPforum and showed it to me one day; it only came to me after I had all ready posted on PersonalityCafe hence why it's not included.
 

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Oh also any inferences about my MBTI would be greatly appreciated such as mannerisms, different cognitive functions and where you see them, etc. I know you INTPs are masterful detanglers.
 

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Hiya! Welcome!

Oh also any inferences about my MBTI would be greatly appreciated such as mannerisms, different cognitive functions and where you see them, etc. I know you INTPs are masterful detanglers.

You have quite a lot of energy. If nothing else, you're surely an E--P type, but..
I suspect you may actually be ESTP, just from this one video.

There is an earthiness to you, a "familiarity" with your environment and the way you talk about your interests that I see more in Se users. Your body sinks into the world and belongs. There's also a very 'Real' quality to your eyes, as opposed to the surreal look of Ne eyes.

Bruce Lee is awesome. He was also an Se user, and a lot of his philosophies are about just that; forming an intimate connection with one's body. It's something all Se+Ni users find an affinity for, and ultimately where the actualization of their potential lies.

And naturally, Gladiator is just plain badass, lol. But the way you describe your martial arts training is quite Se+Ti. Se can actually do a fair level of data crossing but it's not cloud-like like Ne, it deals more with the tangible. In your video you bounce around a lot, but it's not the Ne stream-of-consciousness type which becomes more and more abstract with each word, building abstraction upon abstraction, until it resembles nothing in reality. You have an Se+Ni stream of consciousness which either stays in the tangibles or lingers into an ominous realm of foretelling based on probability (as opposed to possibility).
 

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Thanks for the input Auburn. I have a lot to mentally sift through so forgive me if I don't post more immediately. Your observations seem logical, however I would like some extra input so I will wait until a few more people post then throw everything into my melting pot and let it simmer ;) This is highly interesting to me, I hope many people post a reply. Thanks again Auburn. Oh and hey, how long have you been into MBTI? Perhaps we can get to know each other a little bit, for I am a stranger in a strange land.
 

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Also just want to go out on a tangent here and say that one video does not suggest anything significantly, at least as far as statistics are concerned . Not by a long shot.
 

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Agreed, yes. Though it's definitely a start! =P
More videos taken at different times would surely aide in the deduction process. Um, I've been interested in typology for 4 years now. In the last six months I've taken an interest in visual reading but it's not perfected quite yet.

but welcome stranger~!
(or soon-to-be non-stranger.)
 

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you don't look like iron man...

good he's a prick, welcome to the forum
 
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Also just want to go out on a tangent here and say that one video does not suggest anything significantly, at least as far as statistics are concerned . Not by a long shot.

I second Auburn. Not going off of the same traits (i.e. the "real" quality in your eyes), but the reasoning you use to back things up and comparisons to the ESTPs and ENTPs I know IRL. An ESTP who makes a video while believing he is an ENTP probably won't show up as a textbook ESTP, but certainly not a textbook ENTP either. IMHO you're the former.

I also think you should get fat again, grow a bad mustache, and become a Ron Jeremy impersonator. :smoker:



I apologize if I'm whacking you over the head too hard with my INTPness, but I also disagree with the INFP you have listed in your about me. The affirmation of your lyrical capacity appears to materialize from obsequiousness to Google as opposed to the recognition of previously amassed, garnered, and readily brandished vernacular.
 

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There is an earthiness to you,

Earth, the realm of actuality. [sensation]
Air, the realm of potentiality. [intuition]
Water, the source of vitality. [thinking]
Fire, the source of morale. [feeling]

[sorry to go off topic]
 

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Hmm I do sound like an ESTP from what I've read also. Can anyone provide further clarity regarding ESTPs vs ENTPs?
 

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I can't physio-facial-type to the function level[except Ti-Fe, can't really see the perception functions 'surfacing'], but I can talk about the interests you've mentioned.

I can understand how martial arts could attract Ne'sh thinking. Though It also depends on how you look at "martial arts." Do you like to come up with new moves or do you prefer the execution of established moves more? Ne tends to aggrandize moves and bring them to the spotlight even more than the actual real-time fight itself. Kind of like what you see in wrestling. "Here comes the tombstone" or "Here comes the five knuckle shuffle." It "idealizes" things, most times even if they're not so practical in the fight. I mean, how does pretending to clean your shoulders affect anything? That said, I have a seemingly ESTP cousin who likes to reference moves, though the act of "referencing" is more Ni whereas Ne is "creating." Being forced to utilize only traditional patterns[or moves], such as being in a rigid taekwondo school for example, is the kind of martial arts that I think NeTi "despises."

Weight-lifting though...that's no Ne at all.

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I think eagor ment that your favorite superhero is a prick.
 

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I have an ESTP brother, if that counts for anything. :3

What Words said is actually rather true - it is what I would call Ne Short Skits. They are constantly generating short (often improbable) scenes that could emerge from the situation, and for fun's sake they'll play them out. Sound effects, playing with their facial expressions, and imitating other voices are common. They are also not afraid to be awkward/cooky and make a fool of themselves. Or even for those that are afraid (Fe sensitivity), they really wish they could just be free - and when in their comfort zone they do. But yes, that generates a very Proxy feel to their words and thoughts. Not exactly like acting, but their thoughts are a constant parody of themselves.

They also develop an affinity for certain scenes and will replay those more often - far past the time when they've gotten 'old' to others. They don't really have a strong "cliche-radar" so to speak. They don't mind re-running the same ideas over in their mind and seeing what else they can do with them. They are constantly generating 'new' but also hoarders of the 'old' and thus kinda at odds with emerging trends/styles.

ESTPs will have a zest for reality - an affinity for specific tastes or sounds. It's different for each ESTP but they'll have certain favorite feels - like the sound of an engine starting up, the texture of certain things, the feel of sweat tricking down their skin. It's all very vivid. Unlike Ne users, there is no need to create a proxy because the reality in front of them is already real-felt and consuming. They also seek ways to connect with it more fully, often via sports or martial arts. In general they have much more intensity and focus than Ne users. When mastering their Ni, they will also have a type of sixth-sense about things and where they're going -- where a conversation is leading, who he's gonna pass the ball to next, or where the next punch will come -- by running the physical world through it's own version of a proxy/generator (Ni).
 

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I also kinda put on an amiable persona for the vid. What are the odds of ISTP?

I was thinking this was possible before,

but your energy level (fidgety/moving around/animated) is like my own, and I seem to be E-P also.*

You seem pretty definitely Ti, and I don't thinkkkk you're the same type as me, so ESTP makes the most sense.

I think it's common for ETP to seem introverted, since Pe doesn't try to push things, it just follows what you're perceiving (like being gravitationally attracted to things, moving in the direction of least resistance -> but this movement towards things, even imagined things, is extroversion - positivity, attraction), and Ti is not very people focused, and is more about self-protection (preserving your vitality), and like you mentioned, fine tuning your own inner models of things, finding words that mean what you want them to mean etc.

Oh, and cool hair.


* actually, no, I'm I-P. so you could be too, though I'm not at all sure.
 

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The possibility of ISTP is quite low, although the online profiles of ISTPs will probably resonate more with you.

The online profiles of ESTPs basically assume they're all witty salesmen, or jocks who love football and partying on the weekend. Although there's some truth to that, not all ESTPs are like this - especially not when they tap into their Ni.
 

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Argh. My school blocks youtube with a splashpage. I guess that Iwill just watch it at home.
 

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Also just want to acknowledge that I may have been unconsciously trying to be an ENTP cuz I think they're cool :/ Perhaps I should post a few more videos for you guys to analyze? This time perhaps less spazzy heh.
 

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Oh here's a thought! Maybe you guys can post questions and I'll respond to them; that way I can have something to work with. Just really confused about my type and always have been.
 

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Do you like superheroes? (going by the avatar) Explain why.
Do you have strong opinions about something? Tell us.
Describe your perfect day.


I don't know if I'm repeating anything for earlier in the thread.
 

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Why do you think "ENTP's are cool"? What makes them "cool" to you?
 

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I've been looking into this and I stumbled upon a fairly descriptive site. I compared the istp description with the estp description, and if I'm limited to choosing only one of the two it would most definitely be istp:

To work with difficult situations I become very logical and very analytical, and I look to see where things fit. I always watch and if there’s a problem, I go back inside myself to see what may need to be done and how best to approach a situation. I like to find a technique.
The observational part of me is the ability to see when an opportunity exists and to actually act on it and make things a little bit better. I like to choose the timing for when it’s appropriate to say or do something. I spend a lot of time considering scenarios before I make decisions. I’ll usually go with a hunch, my intuition, what’s the most likely cause. I do my best problem solving in my head away from whatever it is. I step back outside of things, think for a while, and make adjustments—could this be better than that, how do these react, and how does the whole system go together? I’m willing to do the upfront work, which makes it expedient because I never have to repeat it.
In my work, I don’t want to be just doing stuff for the sake of doing stuff. I like to accomplish things—make a contribution. That’s real important. I take a “do it” type of approach. It’s very practical. It’s very here and now. That does not mean I don’t take into consideration the big picture and what’s down the road and what’s best for the organization, but at the same time my big focus is “let’s get this show on the road and let’s do it.” I do it as well as I can. Then I think very well on my feet. I can be quick with the verbal comeback—I like the impact. I just get in there and do it, and whatever job I go into, I hit the ground running. And I’m very competitive, often with myself. I tie one hand behind my back and see if I can still do it...

All of that sounds considerably accurate. The estp paragraph however does not. At all:


I’m a doer. What’s the mission and how are we getting there? Let’s work together. Let’s go. Throw any obstacle, I’ll find a way.
New stuff, that’s the thrill. I love to learn. I can take a prior experience and lay it right on top of what I’m doing today and carry it all forward, and it’s a snap. I do a lot of brainstorming on my feet, organizing the points in my mind mentally. What’s to worry? Just adapt. But draw me a picture, get me a list, or put it on my calendar. Sitting still is hard for me. I am really activity oriented and I don’t need lots of supervision. I look for variety in most positions. If it’s not there, I tend not to stay. I’d rather go out there and do it, just get on with things, and I can communicate that without having to spend a lot of time explaining. People know that if I have something that needs to be done, I do it. And I ask for help when it’s needed.
I am totally a people person. Working through people is the way to get things done. All of my energy, fun, and most uplifting experiences are focused around people. I don’t beat around the bush. Sometimes I have to tone it down a little bit—people may read me the wrong way. I’m very comfortable working either together as a team or individually. I like having flexibility, options, negotiating points. Some people need somebody to be very clear, very direct, and very to the point. That’s how I operate. And work needs to be mutually enjoyable for all of the parties involved. Celebrate achievements. Recognition or reward runs very high in my value system.
I love the challenge of creating something pleasing to the eye. I like the order, to walk into a place that’s totally chaotic, nothing’s happening, and there’s a great opportunity to straighten things out. I like to get the job of placing all the stuff, making it right so it works...
If I don’t respect someone, I avoid them. If I can find another way to do business I will. I surround myself with people that I feel comfortable with, but they’re totally my selection.
I like taking on something that I want to do and getting it done and seeing results, keeping things moving along just to see that I have met some goals—a feeling of accomplishment in a day. I’ll always take bigger risks if I feel confident enough. Then I’ll work with it for a while, and if I see it’s not going anywhere, I just move on and go from there. I guess that summarizes how I deal with situations.
 
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