Dreams... oooooh!!!

[citrusbreath95]

I was just curious as to how you guys felt about dreams. For me, I absolutely love dreams, they actually give you something to analyze fully that you otherwise can't in real life. I was also wondering what kind of dreams you have. I found it suprising to learn some people dream in black in white. I know different people have different dreams. Some dream about what could have happened in previous events of the day, or about their desires and wishes for tommorow, while others dream about things that never occured in their life... I usually have these, and find them most interesting as they are the best to analyze. My dreams are usually not too vivid and may be a bit blurry or unclear as if too much is happening (or I just forget most of it by the time I awaken) Most of the time, if a dream leaves an intense mood to it, I carry it with me the entire day, especially bad ones. A lot of the time, I feel that dreams are for a reason, and that they are meant to be examined, though some people never take the time to do so... your thoughts?

 

[Beat Mango]

I like. More possibilities than waking life.

 

[Kokoro]

I'm with you, they're great. I want to get proficient at the art of lucid dreaming. I worked on it hard about a year ago and it was a blast. Talk about possibilities! You own mind is the limit!

...

Your own mind and that annoying alarm clock bringing you back.

 

[intuitivet]

Love dreams, hate nightmares when I'm in them, but afterwards I find them very interesting. I had a nightmare last night about a tree/mud creature in a wall devouring a young man. It was horrific! Still, better than a dreamless night

 

[Zero]

I have a lot of random, vivid dreams. They often leave me disoriented and because I have so many I tend to wake up and shrug them off. They then fade away. Occasionally there are dreams that stand out.

The last one that I remember, I was a eunuch put in charge of a group of infants and toddlers. Children, especially young children, make me very nervous. I recall reliving that anxiety in the dream, but somehow I managed it. I recall the dream, because it was coherent and directly dealt with an anxiety, which I found impressive and unusual.

 

[Latro]

I enjoy them but I never remember to write down the handful of vivid dreams that I get. I know one dream I seem to get a lot for some reason is all of our fish dying. Maybe that's from the several instances when power has been out for their tank for various reasons and I have asserted "they're gonna die if we don't do something!"

 

[Hawkeye]

My latest dream involved me trying to shave off my beard with a blunt razor because I had to smarten up my image. Eventually I had to run down to the shops wearing nothing but a towel and try to buy a new one.

Somehow I ended up at a hybrid water-park/ theme-park in the changing rooms (which was more like an endless labyrinth of cold wet tiles) looking for a mirror so I could finish shaving with my new razor.

 

[_whispers_]

My dreams are quiet fantastic - dinosaurs, giants, aliens... You name it I got it. Most of the time it`s some random story and I`m not even in there. I`m just observing through some characters eyes or floating around. The funny thing is that the people in my dreams never seem to talk. The only thing I can`t ever EVER remember is their mouths. Sure, they communicate, but they just don`t talk. I think it`s telepathy.
Otherwise they are quite vivid, but never leave a lasting feeling behind, just something to think about and analyze.

 

[RubberDucky451]

Arguing with the characters in your dream concerning the reality of the dream, priceless!

but never leave a lasting feeling behind, just something to think about and analyze.

I sometimes wake up with intense feelings of fear/love/indifference that will last hours after i wake up.

 

[NewCreation]

This is fascinating. I always have extremely vivid dreams that feel quite real, sometimes multiple ones in one night. Everyone I've talked to, however, doesn't seem to have dreams like that very often.
My dreams are usually related to things occurring in my life at the time, although I do have very strange, random ones as well. One that stuck out to me was when my friend and I were in the food court at the mall, and we went into a booth where there was a man. I had an onion with me that looked like an avacado and for some reason, I whacked him in the head with it and killed him. My friend started freaking out and made me toss the onion. We were running down the escalator when all of a sudden about half the people disappeared and my pastor was up on the second floor preaching to everyone. My friend broke down crying and then I woke up.
I LOVE my dreams, actually, they're so much better than real life

 

[NothingTodo]

I love dreams and nightmares. I hate waking up from them.

 

[Mary]

I wish I could stay in my dreams and never wake up.. Most of them are very pleasent. Sometimes I'll have rather nsty nightmares but they always work out well.

 

[Chimera]

I get a vivid dream about once a week, a lucid dream about once a month. The rest of them slip away with the night and I can't remember them.​

I haven't had a "typical" nightmare for a very long time. No monsters, no deaths, no annihilations. I used to get them quite frequently, which is probably why I'm immune to them now. . . Whenever I do have nightmares, they're more about very very realistic possibilities that could happen later that day or that week, and they always turn out horribly. (I have a job teaching music theory and junk to some kids, which leads to: my favorite little kid has a bad immune system, I go in to teach and learn he's in the hospital from an incurable disease, I race to his bed and have to explain to him that he's not going to get better. And the bright little bugger looks right at me and says "I'm going to die soon, aren't I?" True story.)​

Even though I wake up terrified, I don't mind nightmares. They open up the idea that yes, there are things in my life I would hate to lose, and I need to enjoy as much time as I have while they're still here.​

Lucid dreams are the best. Thinking "Give me wings, I'm going to fly"--and then being in the air and on your way to meet someone you can only see in your dreams. . .fantastic.​

 

[citrusbreath95]

Arguing with the characters in your dream concerning the reality of the dream, priceless!



I sometimes wake up with intense feelings of fear/love/indifference that will last hours after i wake up.

I'm like that like if I have a nightmare especially I will carry the depressing atmosphere it left behind for nearly the entire day, sometimes if it was really severe a day or two (that's really rare for me),

 

[citrusbreath95]

My dreams are quiet fantastic - dinosaurs, giants, aliens... You name it I got it. Most of the time it`s some random story and I`m not even in there. I`m just observing through some characters eyes or floating around. The funny thing is that the people in my dreams never seem to talk. The only thing I can`t ever EVER remember is their mouths. Sure, they communicate, but they just don`t talk. I think it`s telepathy.
Otherwise they are quite vivid, but never leave a lasting feeling behind, just something to think about and analyze.

You just described my dreams, only mine do leave a lasting feeling, my biggest problem is as soon as I wake up, I forget most of the details... the very things that could hold many answers to what the dreams actually meant!

 

[Deleted member 1424]

I had my first lucid dream last night, and as a whole my dreams have been much more vivid of late.

In this dream I first realized I was dreaming and then I realized I was lucid dreaming, because I realized I was dreaming. I thought 'about god damned time!' as I've been noncommittally trying to lucid dream for awhile now. Then I proceeded to telekinetically spin giant strawberries like tops until I woke up.

 

[citrusbreath95]

I wish I could lucid dream, my dad can he says he sometimes has dreams where he is flying, and can control them. So I'm trying to control my dreams more and more, I've had a good deal where I've realized I was dreaming, yet I still couldn't fully control them... darn... maybe it comes with age...

 

[Kokoro]

I wish I could lucid dream, my dad can he says he sometimes has dreams where he is flying, and can control them. So I'm trying to control my dreams more and more, I've had a good deal where I've realized I was dreaming, yet I still couldn't fully control them... darn... maybe it comes with age...

I found this community awhile ago... http://www.dreamviews.com/

They say that it can be practiced and achieved through working at it, even if you are not a natural. Their forums are very helpful and have some in depth tutorials. There are people there that will provide further aid if wanted.

I followed their ideas and worked on it myself for a few months to some surprising success. However, I could not stick with it because it requires a fairly consistent sleep schedule and some extra time. Maybe I will pick it up again later, too hectic for now.

Anyways, good luck.

 

[RubberDucky451]

I wish I could lucid dream, my dad can he says he sometimes has dreams where he is flying, and can control them. So I'm trying to control my dreams more and more, I've had a good deal where I've realized I was dreaming, yet I still couldn't fully control them... darn... maybe it comes with age...

I used to have a lot of nightmares a few years back. I was able to lift my eyelids while asleep to stop them, which is a very strange method now that I think about it. I guess that's considered some type of a lucid dream?

 

[Malt]

Yeah that's sleep paralysis. Your body paralyzes itself when you sleep but sometimes you wake up and it hasn't worn off. So you feel like those patients in surgery who are given enough anesthetic to paralyse them but not enough to make them unconscious.

This phenonemon is often associated with alien abductions because people can't move and having just come from a dream state can sometimes not differentiate between what is real and what is fictional and a shape at the end of the bed may appear to be some kind of alien coming to take them.

This has only happened to me once and I was worried for a sec and then I remembered reading about it and just said "fuck you body" in my head and waited for it to wear off. Anger is more useful than fear.

 

[Yodon]

i never seem to remember my dreams , do u guys know any good books i can get on learning to remeber them etc

 

[Moocow]

This morning I had about five false awakenings wherein each I was trying to have a lucid dream, not realizing I was already in one.
And then a huge glowing yellow and black beetle ran out onto my ceiling and I grabbed it, only then realizing it was a dream. It rolled up into a ball and I tossed it around a bit trying to decide what to do with my dream. I don't think I ended up doing anything.

 

[Da Blob]

Arguing with the characters in your dream concerning the reality of the dream, priceless!



I sometimes wake up with intense feelings of fear/love/indifference that will last hours after i wake up.

LOL your avatar reminds me of one lucid dream i had. I was in a confrontation with a latino gang leader and his crew on a stairwell. I told him I am not afraid of you, this is just a dream! Well he kicked me in the privates and i awoke in intense pain in that area and was sore for a week (?)

I have had visions from which I awoke feeling intense joy that slowly faded.

There are some older threads around that have some good links I'll chase them down and provide them in an

EDIT:http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=5619

Too many old threads to post, this just has a couple of good links...

 

[RubberDucky451]

LOL your avatar reminds me of one lucid dream i had. I was in a confrontation with a latino gang leader and his crew on a stairwell. I told him I am not afraid of you, this is just a dream! Well he kicked me in the privates and i awoke in intense pain in that area and was sore for a week (?)

I have had visions from which I awoke feeling intense joy that slowly faded.

There are some older threads around that have some good links I'll chase them down and provide them in an

EDIT:http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=5619

Too many old threads to post, this just has a couple of good links...

Maybe you somehow punched yourself? Now I'm a bit afraid to lucid dream

I tried to lucid dream last night by reciting mantras. I never realized how hard it was for me to focus...

 

[Irishpenguin]

I think dreaming is extremely awesome, so many cool things can happen and ideas can form.

As far as lucid dreaming goes I really don't even know if that's happened...well wait, I dunno I guess it has I just never woke up saying "Hey, that was a lucid dream I just had right there."

On a semi-related note, I woke up from a dream the weirdest way just recently. I remember I was in art class, when all of a sudden the teacher hopped on top of her desk and started singing Maps by the Yeah Yeah Yeah's, and I was totally like "what tha fuck!?" then I slowly started to wake up, and the whad'ya know, the tv radio was on...playing Maps by the Yeah Yeah Yeah's.

 

[citrusbreath95]

the whad'ya know, the tv radio was on...playing Maps by the Yeah Yeah Yeah's.

That's funny, Sometimes if I am deeply in thought before I sleep, and then I fall asleep I may wake up in the middle of the night and immediately go back to that thought, as if my mind has just frozen on the spot... pretty interesting

 

[BigApplePi]

I had a dream last week that seemed extremely real. I was looking at an orange hued stained piece of wood where I could see very clearly all the wood grain in perfect detail. The wood was "trim" where it fit perfectly in a slot. It was so real I had to ask myself if I was dreaming or not. Then I woke up in shock that it wasn't real after all.

I believe dreams are continuances of daytime activities: Visions, emotions or whatever. They go back in the mind to the similar experiences associations. But since this is the mind let loose without any inhibitions, and the mind is so vast, it's a mystery what the connections are.

 

[Murphy1d]

About once every 5 years I wake unknowingly from a nightmare and continue to respond IRL.
Last week I woke up believing that the light blinking on my router was a laser pointed at my heart. I jumped in bed, but then realized that the laser just carved down my chest and opened up the heart. I grabbed my cell to call 911 but stopped while I calculated that I was experiencing my death. No life flashing, just logical realization that I could not live through an intra-chest slash through the heart and that I had maybe 30 seconds of my life left. Then I noted the missing gashes in my chest and then remembered I had the same dream a couple years back and this is just another freaky day in my life. I genuinely felt I was dead.

 

[intuitivet]

I had a weird dream about having a conversation and then woke up while kind of talking... I apparently sleep talk.
Has anyone had dreams which have caused them to wake up talking/crying or such?

 

[Malt]

I laugh in my sleep, when my family were on holiday and we were in a small cabin they told me in the morning that I sleep laugh. A positive sign in my mind .

 

[citrusbreath95]

I had a weird dream about having a conversation and then woke up while kind of talking... I apparently sleep talk.
Has anyone had dreams which have caused them to wake up talking/crying or such?

I find myself in this really weird sort of phase, where I have no idea if I'm awake or not, I will hear myself just talking. mumbling, saying random things. Apparentely I sleep talk as well. Once my dad said he heard me talking to myself in my room and came in to see if I was calling him or something, and he actually said that he started talking to me (I think he said hello or something, can't remember what he told me) and I actually was sitting upright in bed staring at the wall talking to myself and when he said hello I turned to him and just fell back asleep... I'm not too sure if I believe it, I never remembered that, but perhaps my mind was in such a sleepy state, I wasn't even proccessing I was awake so thus couldn't possibly remember it... thank goodness I don't sleep walk... or so I think (If global war is declared by some girl sleepwalking and accidentely pressing a release button for an atomic bomb, then I guess I am wrong...

 

[DrSketchpad]

I was just curious as to how you guys felt about dreams. For me, I absolutely love dreams, they actually give you something to analyze fully that you otherwise can't in real life. I was also wondering what kind of dreams you have. I found it suprising to learn some people dream in black in white. I know different people have different dreams. Some dream about what could have happened in previous events of the day, or about their desires and wishes for tommorow, while others dream about things that never occured in their life... I usually have these, and find them most interesting as they are the best to analyze. My dreams are usually not too vivid and may be a bit blurry or unclear as if too much is happening (or I just forget most of it by the time I awaken) Most of the time, if a dream leaves an intense mood to it, I carry it with me the entire day, especially bad ones. A lot of the time, I feel that dreams are for a reason, and that they are meant to be examined, though some people never take the time to do so... your thoughts?

The #1 reason I love dreams is it's basically a visual representation of your subconscious and that fascinates me. Especially when you have lucid dreams, don't even get me started...

 

[TriflinThomas]

I love to dream. I got myself a prescription for antidepressants when I was younger because I wanted to see if they get you high. Anywaysssss, they pretty much made me sleep 24/7 but I had the most vivid and awesome dreams when I abused them. I love nightmares even more, probably because I like scary movies....

 

[skip]

My dreams are very straight-forward and movie-like in quality. I have five or more each night that I remember, most of them are neutral, a few are fun and too many are bad. I had a dream this morning that a horse was caught in a barbed wire fence and was struggling horribly. She was at the top of a hill and I was too far away to help her.

Whether the dreams are good or bad, if they were intense enough they leave me with residual feelings that sometimes disappear a few minutes after awakening and sometimes stay with me all day. If they do go away sometimes they return rather intensely at night, making it difficult to go to sleep if the dream(s) I'd had the night before were bad.

 

[pjoa09]

lol, responding to a 2010 post.

 

[intpz]

Not the first time; sometimes it's 2009 post!

Hm. I've had some really fucked up dreams lately. Waking up too, can't sleep good.

 

[Art-Toyon-Aga]

My dreams include multi-dimensional traveling, concepts like a book with an infinite number of pages (and an important message... somewhere), ability to fly, magic, secret passages, historical artifacts with an air of incomprehensible mystery and meaning, aliens like none I've ever seen depicted in fiction, an isolated planet except me, secret societies whether corrupt (and after me along with others who know) or far advanced, etc... very often there is some long-term something going on.

My dreams often have a mystic quality to them that go beyond itself along with profound (often spiritual) feeling. They are vivid and seem to go beyond even the genre's of science fiction and high fantasy. Really, my dreams are the greatest things I've ever experienced.

I'm not sure what dreams truly are, but I desire to understand ~

 

[intpz]

Can we swap dreams? I'm having really fucked up dreams lately. I guess it depends on what's going on in your life.

 

[Da Blob]

I have been a lucid dreamer since I was about 18 months old, an impossible thing according to some. However, I had a recurring nightmare about my own death that would wake me up and then of course wake my parents up when they heard me screaming. Anyway the last time I had that dream I found some way of observing me observing the dream without waking up and I solved the problem. One can look at dreams as problems and puzzles to be solved.

Sigmund Freud was partially correct about dreams, it is wish fulfillment, an exercise of free will beyond the constraints of Time and space. He was also correct that whatever is happening in the RL can intrude and become incorporated in one's dreams. I would not recommend leaving either a television or radio on while one sleeps, the propaganda can then bypass conscious appraisal and become incorporated without one's consent. If one needs a source of white noise to sleep find something else. I use an old noisy fan.

There are many types of dreams, but I don't know if it will ever be possible to categorize them. I believe though that dreams can sometimes function as channels of communication, but whether it is a form of interoffice memo or something greater would be a difficult thing to determine.

One thing I do know, one's dreams, of both day and night are mirrors of one's self.

Afterthought - dream deprivation can be used as an efficient form of torture, so I wonder about those who willingly deprive themselves of their own dreams, by not bothering to acquire the skill of lucid dreaming(?)

 

[intpz]

A fan is not really a pleasant noise, is it? I'd rather sleep in absolute silence...

 

[BigApplePi]

A fan is not really a pleasant noise, is it? I'd rather sleep in absolute silence...

If one can come by absolute silence, that is fine. Nothing to disturb. But if there are sporadic unwanted noises, the fan will drown them out. Granted the fan noise could be unpleasant, but if it repeats in a drone way as opposed to clanking irregular disharmony, after a while the senses will become so saturated one can no longer hear it.

 

[BigApplePi]

Dream Theory

One can look at dreams as problems and puzzles to be solved.

Sigmund Freud was partially correct about dreams, it is wish fulfillment, an exercise of free will beyond the constraints of Time and space. He was also correct that whatever is happening in the RL can intrude and become incorporated in one's dreams.

There are many types of dreams, but I don't know if it will ever be possible to categorize them. I believe though that dreams can sometimes function as channels of communication, but whether it is a form of interoffice memo or something greater would be a difficult thing to determine.

One thing I do know, one's dreams, of both day and night are mirrors of one's self.

I once kept a log which must contain a few thousand of my dreams. Here is my dream theory -

When one is awake, one is busy with controls. No dreams.

If one is tired or relaxes with nothing preying on one's mind, one can daydream. But this is controlled by the watching self so as not to go "symbolic."

Dreaming when asleep is different. None of the controls of wakefulness. Now everyone has concerns, interests, desires, and stronger emotions. Just because the present carries none of conscious focus is no reason why the past is all cleaned up. There are the loose threads of not only strong passions, but those of unfinished everyday concerns. These are filed in one's memory under what? Wishes, desires and concerns I suppose. So when one of those wishes, desires and concerns appears in our life in the past day or so, followed by sleep, the past connection heretofore inhibited with one's present uncontrolled wishes, desires and concerns is now made. It is directly made because the brain is organized that way. That provides the content of your dream.

We observe that there is a measure of symbolism in these dreams. Not so I say. That symbolism comes from prior experience, your psychological makeup, no matter how past distant. No symbolism. It's real. It's all you. It's up to you to make the connection.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I rarely retain my dreams to the point that it's as if I don't dream at all.

 

[Da Blob]

I rarely retain my dreams to the point that it's as if I don't dream at all.

It is a fairly simple task to train your self to remember your dreams and just a bit more difficult to become a lucid dreamer... an Agent in the Matrix

I think there is a wikibook on the topic that I once posted, but there are a number of training regimes that reportedly work.

 

[hablahdoo]

It is a fairly simple task to train your self to remember your dreams

I've been working at this. Between 12-18 years old I found it odd that I had absolutely no recall of dreams, the only exception being when I had a fever. I'm beginning to think depression was the cause. Now that I am happier and more calm I'm noticing that I'm picking up bits and pieces of dreams again. Not only that but I'm discovering this visual mode of thought that I've never really used before.

Visuals aren't limited by the speed that you can say a word and they seem to be more powerful in certain ways. What's stopping me from taking the effectiveness of the "memory palace"and applying it to understanding the structure of software I am programming? Cool stuff.

 

[snafupants]

I usually recall about seven dreams per night; the key to accurate recall is paradoxically relaxing and remaining in the dreaming brain state shortly after waking up; avoid imposing logical, waking order on the body of the dreams. Last night I dreamt that Barack Obama was in my high school math class. This dream transitioned to another in which I was on a motorcycle when the keys popped out of the ignition. I then talked to an adolescent yet chunky black boy after discretely disposing of the motorcycle. Before the Barack Obama dream I experienced a few lucid, flying dreams. Overall I tend to agree with Freud that dreams are day residues; I can usually trace the content of my dreams back to events which occurred earlier in the week; on Monday, for instance, my sister and I struggled to pass a motorcycle gang on the highway. Anyway, there's a book by Ann Faraday called Dream Power which was as weird as it was entertaining. I read the book when I was sixteen so my recall may not be perfect but Ann came across as a Freudian; at one juncture she talked about her childhood enemas and wanting to fornicate with her brother. Ann just seemed like a hip lady at the time; she outlined successful attempts to naturally conjure up the imagery of LSD during dreams and Jungian archetypes and these things. Good read.

 

[Da Blob]

Here's the link I mentioned above

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lucid_Dreaming

It is probably not the best, but 'hey! it's free'

Freud was only partially correct, at the very least dreams are also involved in the conversion of short term memory into long term memory...

Here's a link that is informative and presents different possibilities, a bit "New Agey" BWTH

http://www.crystalinks.com/dreams.html

 

[snafupants]

Here's the link I mentioned above

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lucid_Dreaming

It is probably not the best, but 'hey! it's free'

Freud was only partially correct, at the very least dreams are also involved in the conversion of short term memory into long term memory...

Here's a link that is informative and presents different possibilities, a bit "New Agey" BWTH

http://www.crystalinks.com/dreams.html

The conversion of memories from short to long term memory would not be subsumed under the purview of meaning and the phenomenological content of dreams; Freud didn't concern himself with brain processes proper because he died during World War II when neuroscience proper hadn't come around yet. The only thing that I relayed was Freud's point of view; discussing the more recent, neuroscience-bolstered physiology of REM sleep would have been inappropriate in such a discussion. I have posted some information on this forum about the electrochemical and regional cognitive process of memory consolidation, which may have sparked your interest in the topic.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

It is a fairly simple task to train your self to remember your dreams and just a bit more difficult to become a lucid dreamer... an Agent in the Matrix.

Like hablahdoo, I think in my case something psycho-emotional like depression is causing it.

 

[intpz]

If one can come by absolute silence, that is fine. Nothing to disturb. But if there are sporadic unwanted noises, the fan will drown them out. Granted the fan noise could be unpleasant, but if it repeats in a drone way as opposed to clanking irregular disharmony, after a while the senses will become so saturated one can no longer hear it.

I've got a fridge in my room, loud as hell - not too pleasant, not too saturating. Sleeping under a pillow.