Do you like your type?

[Puffy]

Do you like being an INTP? If so/ not, why?

If you are a different type do you like being that type?

 

[smithcommajohn]

I hate myself, but I'm not sure if that has to do with my type or not. :P

I don't wish I were any other type, if that's the question. This is my natural state and I enjoy it. (INTP)

 

[Jordan~]

Yeah. More than I liked being an INTP. But maybe I was just a depressed INFP at the time. Either way something changed and I like it better now. I feel like I have a stake in the world now, and I'm more at peace with the whole of myself. There's no violent T vs. F conflict raging inside me, they've learnt to cooperate. I don't even bother trying to use Te because I think it should be banned and left to computers, so no issues there.

 

[Black Rose]

Sometime I wish I was good at technical stuff otherwise I am O.K. (ENFJ)

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I'm not sure, I'm beginning to find this over-sensitive anxious analyzing crap a bit annoying. It doesn't get me anywhere, I just feel weird all the time. I haven't really been able to embrace it yet, I think.
Sure, INTPs are supposedly intelligent, but I really miss some kind of warmth. A connection to others.

Please mind that I have had a small amount of alcohol, am tired, and just returned from a party as well. This may have an effect on my opinion at the moment...

 

[Jordan~]

But your opinions of a moment, particularly when you've been drinking alcohol, may be more honest than your opinions in general, no?

 

[Bird]

I'm not an INTP but I really dislike being my type.


I don't mean this offensively, but we suck in a lot
of ways.


...I could perhaps be overly critical.

 

[Jordan~]

What are you? (Protestant or Catholic? I know where yer pa lives...)

All types suck in a lot of ways. I guess it's a matter of being at peace with the ways in which you suck.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

I don't wish I were any other type, if that's the question. This is my natural state and I enjoy it. (INTP)

Totally agree here^

I like being an INTP because that's who I am. It can be hard to accept some aspects of INTPdom, like social awkwardness and being emotionally crippled, but I don't really have a problem. I actually kind of enjoy being socially awkward and can use it as a tool to appear less awkward than I really am. Emotions, though, I still have trouble. I do wish that I could just let go of reason and actually do something because it FEELS right but I can't and that sucks. But overall I love being an INTP

 

[Puffy]

I'm not an INTP but I really dislike being my type.


I don't mean this offensively, but we suck in a lot
of ways.


...I could perhaps be overly critical.

If you still associate with the same type, I think one of our weaknesses is that we can so easily disassociate ourselves from morality. :S

Cheeseumpuffs, if you don't mind me asking, do you see emotional crippling and social awkwardness as fixed character traits associated with the INTP type?

@DT - I think that is a healthy thought. There is nothing wrong with analysis, but there's also nothing wrong with trying to experience from as wide a perspective as possible (:

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

I like being INFJ, but it's fucking hard to engage with the outer world. o_O

 

[Starfishtea]

I'm an INTP, but I'd like to be ENFJ or something like that.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Oh, sorry if I phrased that wrong. I'm not trying to say that all INTPs are detached emotionless loners but there's still some hint of that in all of them. Social awkwardness and undeveloped/uncontrollable emotions are INTP-ish to some extent. Most INTPs are able to hide/develop those skills to where they aren't as noticeable, but those qualities are still present in most if not all INTPs.

Edit: When I said "emotionally crippled" I was exaggerating and I'm sorry for the confusion.

 

[Lobstrich]

Like a couple of others have said. I like being an INTP because that's who I am. If I were to suddenly be an ENFP or INFJ etc. I would not be "Lobstrich" I would simply be someone else.

 

[Chimera]

(I don't know my type; I balance on the edges of the f/t and j/p knives. I'll tentatively say that I'm infj.)​

And...I am indifferent about my type, whatever it is. There's no point in liking or disliking it, since the way I am won't change unless I cease to exist. Even people who seek to change how they are, their dispositions or their reactions to things or whatever else, that need for improvement is still a trait of them.
Saying you like how you are is like saying "Well, this is inevitible, so I might as well be happy with it."
....which is fine, I'm not knocking that mentality, I'm just saying I don't adhere to it.

edit: I realize I'm having a hard time seperating "type" from "personal identity"...though, aren't types supposed to be indicators of the self?
Oh well. Not taking this post down, I think it's a valid point.​

 

[Lobstrich]

I'll tentatively say that I'm infj.)

I concur!

Why? Because your font is custom and you write with weird breaks, that simple. Yes, I'm generalizing a little, but so far everyone I've observed on this forum who has been using a "custom" font and breaks. Have been INFJ's.

There's also some other factors that weigh into it of course. But I like to just act as if I'm judging you on your font.. It's so laughably ignorant, lol.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

But your opinions of a moment, particularly when you've been drinking alcohol, may be more honest than your opinions in general, no?

Yes. I need a drastic change in my core thinking... I've been having epiphanies about myself the last few days. I really hope I'm not going mad and that this is just a phase of realization.

 

[darude11]

I hate myself, but don't want to change my type. INTP is great type, truly, but my problem isn't in the personality... my problem is in me... all right, maybe that pesimism isn't the greatest thing on INTP

 

[Zionoxis]

I honestly like being an INTP in some ways, but at the same time, I hate it how I am almost incapable of finishing anything. I do really wish I had been a INTJ instead....they seem to maintain the same intelligence, but actually get something done. I just spend all my time...thinking.

 

[intpz]

I hate who I am because I am pessimistic/sad/depressed most of the time. I either would like myself to be in different circumstances (country/family/etc.) or one of the 'happy for nothing' types.
Maybe the fact that I'm wondering for some time now if it's wort living a life which you cannot enjoy is affecting my judgment on this question and I'm not completely rational about answering it though...

 

[darude11]

I honestly like being an INTP in some ways, but at the same time, I hate it how I am almost incapable of finishing anything. I do really wish I had been a INTJ instead....they seem to maintain the same intelligence, but actually get something done. I just spend all my time...thinking.

Then stop thinking, and start making sense
(or that is at least what some dumb slogan generator said me)

 

[CLOfriendOSE]

Hm. I feel impartial to my own type, perhaps since I don't know many other INTPs. I think that this is a type that is easy to bring sadness to when we live in a society not built to nurture us. Skeptical of most systems, we can't just do what somebody told us would make us happy and feel that way. Somewhat a shame, but I do like my curiosity.

I find that society is made for the ESJ types since, perhaps, they are the easiest to believe propoganda. I don't know, there is a big emphasis on "in order to be happy you must be social, have a good job, have a dog and kids, have a partner, etc". I see how those things would satisfy some types, but also see that it is not meant for me, and as such have become much less self-loathing and much more determined to find my own way.

I also found that by viewing my emotions as 'simplifications of general processes that allow me to cope with existence" I have been much more in touch with them. I am very T and was under the impression most people shared similar emotions, but this I believe is something only the movies would like you to beleive.

 

[Jordan~]

Yes. I need a drastic change in my core thinking... I've been having epiphanies about myself the last few days. I really hope I'm not going mad and that this is just a phase of realization.

Same thing, imo. But hey, if you can get the healing without the madness, so much the better. Do something about it, I guess - by which I mean take time to reflect on those epiphanies and what they mean.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Same thing, imo. But hey, if you can get the healing without the madness, so much the better. Do something about it, I guess - by which I mean take time to reflect on those epiphanies and what they mean.

You mean going mad and having epiphanies by introspecting is the same?
But yeah, I'm now taking my time...

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

I hate myself, but don't want to change my type.

Hahahahaha this is almost exactly how I describe it myself sometimes.

Hm. I feel impartial to my own type, perhaps since I don't know many other INTPs. I think that this is a type that is easy to bring sadness to when we live in a society not built to nurture us. Skeptical of most systems, we can't just do what somebody told us would make us happy and feel that way. Somewhat a shame, but I do like my curiosity. . . there is a big emphasis on "in order to be happy you must be social, have a good job, have a dog and kids, have a partner, etc". I see how those things would satisfy some types, but also see that it is not meant for me.

It does seem like society isn't geared towards INTPs very much. Of those things listed in order to be "happy" the only thing I actually can see myself doing is to have a dog. Being social wears me out and due to the ridiculous amount of ignorance/idiocy in the world, annoys me. Having a good (I assume you mean well paying) job is not on my list, I want a job that I enjoy, not that pays well. Dogs - love 'em. Kids - hate 'em and they usually aren't big fans of me either. Having a partner would be cool but I'm perfectly fine being single.... Not sure how other INTPs would feel about this but society just isn't my friend.

Also, you guys keep linking INTPs and pessimism and I was wondering if I'm missing the INTP train, because I rarely feel "pessimistic." I feel more like it's realism than pessimism. If there is cause for hope then I'm tentatively optimistic. If there isn't then I move on and don't waste time being bummed out. I don't know, maybe one of you can make that a little more clear for me. But I don't think it's strictly pessimism that is an INTP trait.

 

[Jordan~]

You mean going mad and having epiphanies by introspecting is the same?
But yeah, I'm now taking my time...

Oh, no - I mean I think that madness is a sort of phase of realisation, or can be, perhaps.

 

[xbox]

Do you like being an INTP? If so/ not, why?

If you are a different type do you like being that type?

I was always fine with what I was even when I didn't know my own type. I was just confused why certain people had problems with me.

It all makes sense now.

 

[EmBeeTeaEye]

I honestly like being an INTP in some ways, but at the same time, I hate it how I am almost incapable of finishing anything. I do really wish I had been a INTJ instead....they seem to maintain the same intelligence, but actually get something done. I just spend all my time...thinking.

I completely agree with this. ENTJ and ENTP seem like a good choice too.

They're like the character Blade "all of our strengths, none of our weaknesses."

 

[xbox]

Like a couple of others have said. I like being an INTP because that's who I am. If I were to suddenly be an ENFP or INFJ etc. I would not be "Lobstrich" I would simply be someone else.

Are you a lobster crossed with an ostrich? If so, that is awesome. Can I have your autograph?

 

[Dimensional Transition]

Oh, no - I mean I think that madness is a sort of phase of realisation, or can be, perhaps.

Ah yes, I think so too. Although I myself would probably just get very anxious if I were to go mad... I definitely think there are folks who would be able though.

 

[Zionoxis]

I completely agree with this. ENTJ and ENTP seem like a good choice too.

They're like the character Blade "all of our strengths, none of our weaknesses."

Meh, I like my introverted-ness. In all honesty, when I try being extroverted I just come across as...awkward. My jokes make no one laugh but myself. You all know how that is. :P So I give up on jokes. Then, all conversation topics consist of things which they care nothing for. There goes my ability to be social.

 

[Jordan~]

All my friends are introverts, too, so we just watch TV and movies and take the piss out of it. Or get drunk and put on one of the radio channels and sing along to songs we don't like. It's fun. When I'm talking to people I don't know I just try to find a common interest and talk about that, but extraverts always seem so busy. I like activity and all, but it's like you can't have a conversation with them.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

extraverts always seem so busy. I like activity and all, but it's like you can't have a conversation with them.

Really? In my experiences with extraverts I can't get them to shut up and leave me alone.

 

[GYX_Kid]

If I hate myself, it's because of having been retarded about some decision or lack thereof. I don't know any god besides my Ji. Other than those failures to communicate with the world, I'm pretty awesome and have the responsibility to focus that potential outward with enough mastering of the foreign art Je (or decisiveness). Then I will use that deadly nihilism tool constructively to tell my god that those days of failing are over, that that me is dead. It might forgive, with that mentality. My god tends to be an extremist.

My type? I don't know. I'm probably talking more like an INTP here now, or whatever that really is. Pure sentences for all you Capitalists.

 

[Chimera]

I concur!

Why? Because your font is custom and you write with weird breaks, that simple. Yes, I'm generalizing a little, but so far everyone I've observed on this forum who has been using a "custom" font and breaks. Have been INFJ's.

There's also some other factors that weigh into it of course. But I like to just act as if I'm judging you on your font.. It's so laughably ignorant, lol.

I don't write
with
weird breaks.
(No actually, I just kind of press enter whenever my thoughts shift. >> )
​

I can be a typical forumgoer, if you want. Though honestly the blandness of this line is making my eyes burn.​

I'm so curious what makes you think I'm an infj. I've been told I act anywhere from enfj-ish to intp-ish. o////o​

 

[Vecho]

My type, said to be ENTP, has is prons but I am not content being dictated by types. I am more of a "me" type. And with that I am content and I actually enjoy it.

 

[Lobstrich]

Are you a lobster crossed with an ostrich? If so, that is awesome. Can I have your autograph?

I sure am, kid.

Step right over to the booth you see over there, the one with a huge queue, and I'll give you an autograph.

 

[Lobstrich]

I can be a typical forumgoer, if you want. Though honestly the blandness of this line is making my eyes burn.

When I read posts I do not see blandness in how one writes but rather ones opinions.

 

[Puffy]

When I read posts I do not see blandness in how one writes but rather ones opinions.

That's politically correct to the point of blandness (;

@Chimera: What you say about personality would make sense if personality was determined/ fixed. If you can't change anything about yourself is there any need to like or dislike? Do you believe it is not possible to develop aspects of yourself you might not find favourable?

 

[Lobstrich]

That's politically correct to the point of blandness (;

Politically correct?? I'd disagree. Most people (politically correct people) Look at how things look (the font), and do not care for what they are (the opinion)

 

[Jordan~]

I don't write
with
weird breaks.
(No actually, I just kind of press enter whenever my thoughts shift. >> )​

​

So every one of your posts is basically a poem in free verse? Cool.

 

[Minuend]

You are not limited to your type, if you want to change something about yourself- do it.

Yes, I am fine with being my type, but I would be just as fine as any other type. There would always be something positive about me. Frankly, this question is silly.

 

[Puffy]

You are not limited to your type, if you want to change something about yourself- do it.

Yes, I am fine with being my type, but I would be just as fine as any other type. There would always be something positive about me. Frankly, this question is silly.

I don't think it is silly, but I have my own reasons.

In my waking life (I'm generally day-dreaming here) I have a small group of friends who heavily lean on MBTI and similar typing systems as a means of understanding themselves and their relations to other people. I've begun to see it as quite fatalistic; it is clear they don't like their situation yet they treat it as if it is determined because of their type. At least in them their type is just an excuse to not make changes which might threaten their secure apathy.

I like your response as I agree you are not limited to your type, but in the end I think this question is most important when it comes to applying typology: why apply MBTI if it imprisons you within a personality that you don't even like?

I've enjoyed a mix of responses here.

 

[ked]

As a Socionics INTp I am a NiTe, that is an inferior function pair in science where the Ne/Ti is the more powerful and natural one as it's intuitive visual vs. the Ni's intuitive non-visual; visual needed in study. And the Ti that is thinking, that is what one uses in science. The Te is about explaining, and thinking doesn't come to it naturally, spontaneously.

There simply isn't any area in life that is fitting to an INTP when it comes to the type of work. Other than that it's possibly even better to be an INTP than an INTJ (TiNe) as it's just a sort of work function, there being more to INTP than that, it being a more general in its nature and has nice extraverted thinking and feeling functions and a nice ability to handle information in the Ni (non-visual memory), to understand (with the added Ti/Ne) and explain them with the Te.

The best texts are written by the ENTJs - TeNi. The ENTPs - NeTi and INTJs generally not being but accurate and technical there, but it's rather Ti-hard text and hard for the common man to understand - it would better go through an ENTJ before it gets to other than ENTPs and INTJs. So, that's where Ni/Te is good at but finding a work for such and an (ENTJ) willing to do it also, is an another thing, e.g. as an INTp, I don't like to deal with NT-text professionally with an inferior Se/Ne and Ti as Si/Ni and Te is not technically naturally accurate with it, but the Te/Ni-function is the only one who is able to make it something more understandable for the common man as far as the Te(/Ni)- goes.

If an INTP and ENTJ is not naturally fit in science, and not fit in the common Sensoric jobs, it's professionally a pretty miserable situation.

 

[Jordan~]

Really? In my experiences with extraverts I can't get them to shut up and leave me alone.

Have you tried having an important conversation with one extravert in a crowd of extraverts?

Ked - are you talking about only Socionics types? What Myers-Briggs type are you?

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Have you tried having an important conversation with one extravert in a crowd of extraverts?

Ked - are you talking about only Socionics types? What Myers-Briggs type are you?

Oh, well yeah in that case they all just go off on each other and make it impossible to have a conversation with that individual. But I usually don't try to start conversations because I don't really feel like conversations are, as you said, "important"....... I'm just not a fan of talking in general.

 

[Jordan~]

Well, y'know, sort of, "Excuse me fireman, my face is on fire," conversations, or, "Yes, our mutual friend who is straight said he would kiss you in spite of the fact that he's straight, which is what you asked me to find ou-- oh, you're gone."

 

[Roran]

I (think I) am an INTP, I'm okay with being INTP, but I'd rather be an INTJ, the function order just seems so much more well rounded to me, though that could just be because I know a lot more about the INTJ type than the INTP type..................

 

[pjoa09]

Not even sure what the fuck am I. I know I am at least IXTX but past that it's hazy.
Even if it looks clear as day. I can't hate on my type because there are a lot of things that are fantastic about it but I never seem to have the good qualities or see the good qualities. It's always the bad ones where I avoid issues before I burst into flames, day dream, blow up, act recklessly even if I know better.

That sort of stuff. Can't hate the type but can hate yourself.

 

[SkyWalker]

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Ne-squared babyyyyy