Do you enjoy arguing/debating/sharing?

[TimeAsylums]

You know me, Timeasylums, always trying to contribute typology and personal types to everything with correlations:

"Did you know XxXx is more likely to prefer golden retrievers and orangelos to peaches more than xxxX?"

Lol. But seriously,

1. What is your type?
2. Do you enjoy arguing/debating/sharing/or anything?
3. ^Why?

Arguing = synonym of being "fighting." I'd say 'arguing' is more emotion/feeling based
Debating = er, formal arguing, but with ideas/logic/reasoning
Sharing = Just talking 'about' something.

ENTP, as you know,
I hate arguing, it's usually smalltime bickering between people that has no cause or is totally illogical, when someone attempts to argue with me, I ignore them. lol.
Meh, I like watching people debate, but I don't care to try to convince an audience or myself of something because I (like to) feel like if the information is correct then something should be able to be logically derived from it (maybe through reasoning, idk), but what I'm saying is I don't care much to debate people -
I would rather share information/ideas/conclusions and hear people's ideas/opinions (you might say this is what a debate is, but just for separating the things right now) and then going form there.

So...how about you, INTPf?

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

I like to argue and debate. If some employs a dishonest tactic in a debate ie. argumentative fallacies, I have no problem chastising them for it.

 

[TimeAsylums]

I like to argue and debate.

Rofl, you silly INTJ xD

I can't not like you because of your "No cat" picture.
it just so fits an INTJ.

If some employs a dishonest tactic in a debate ie. argumentative fallacies, I have no problem chastising them for it.

I don't see a problem with that. The truth/right answer/whatever should indeed be known.
I'm sure the INTPs would overly agree with you as well.

 

[GigglyGoo]

1. What is your type?
2. Do you enjoy arguing/debating/sharing/or anything?
3. ^Why?

Arguing = synonym of being "fighting." I'd say 'arguing' is more emotion/feeling based
Debating = er, formal arguing, but with ideas/logic/reasoning
Sharing = Just talking 'about' something.

You posed this question to INTPf but.. xD

ENFJ
Arguing - No. Waste of my time and the other persons.
Debating - Yes, only if I have an interest in the subject.
Sharing - Yes! I like the more laid back approach, I can share ideas and listen to others without any exterior motives (e.g trying to 'convert' one to their opinion) (uh at least most of the times) this is my preferred method.

 

[TimeAsylums]

You posed this question to INTPf but.. xD

Teehee, (INTPf = INTPforum, the whole website/forum not just INTPs)

ENFJ

You, again!

Arguing - No. Waste of my time and the other persons.

Omg, maybe I can love you.

Debating - Yes, only if I have an interest in the subject.

meh, acceptable.

Sharing - Yes! I like the more laid back approach, I can share ideas and listen to others without any exterior motives (e.g trying to 'convert' one to their opinion) (uh at least most of the times) this is my preferred method.

<3

 

[Brontosaurie]

sharing is the best but hardest

arguing is no fun

 

[TimeAsylums]

sharing is the best but hardest

Ooh, interesting statement, why do you find it the hardest?

 

[Hawkeye]

I like causing arguments through debating by sharing false information.

I am a helicopter.

 

[Thurlor]

Arguing - Only if I am angry/emotional enough. It's not that I want to argue but words just seem to spill out of my mouth and then I sort of follow where they lead.

Debating - I've given up as no-one seems to care anymore whether others are right or wrong. Debating is not an option with people who claim 'every-one is right'. Besides, it's way too depressing and draining to see the people I care about lie to themselves all the frelling time.

Sharing - I like sharing but a part of me always feels like I'm trying to avoid the 'sharing' become 'debating' because as soon as I feel the urge to correct the other person it starts swinging towards debating. I've also noticed that alot of people I've come in contact with seem to prefer sharing as it offers them a means to say the craziest things and proselytize without ever offering any coherent justifications as it is all just 'my opinion' and 'sharing what I've learnt'.

 

[TimeAsylums]

I like causing arguments through debating by sharing false information.

Yes, trolling and devil's advocate has its moments

 

[TimeAsylums]

Debating - I've given up as no-one seems to care anymore whether others are right or wrong.

Feel Ya.

Debating is not an option with people who claim 'every-one is right'. Besides, it's way too depressing and draining to see the people I care about lie to themselves all the frelling time.

Agreed...super lols @ people who "everyone is/can be right...."

Sharing - I like sharing but a part of me always feels like I'm trying to avoid the 'sharing' become 'debating' because as soon as I feel the urge to correct the other person it starts swinging towards debating.

Yeah, I guess that's what @Bronto was saying about Sharing. It can easily turn into a debate.

I've also noticed that alot of people I've come in contact with seem to prefer sharing as it offers them a means to say the craziest things and proselytize without ever offering any coherent justifications as it is all just 'my opinion' and 'sharing what I've learnt'.

tee-hee, ok I might be guilty of this once in awhile, but not as much as other people, but I get what you're saying.

 

[DelusiveNinja]

I love arguing and sharing new view points but only when I feel like it and when people want to hear reason. If they are like ESTJ and won't listen to reason or me playing the devil advocate then I shut up and won't join in the conversation. I try hard to type and analyze people so I won't join conversations that will end in the response, "Mind your own business!!!!!" I am an INTP and I only join conversations where people seem open minded and want some creative answers or solutions. I rarely do this though only safety precaution because I don't like when people scold me or take my opinions negatively. If I am interested in the people or topic it is more likely for me to talk to them and add comments.

 

[Pyropyro]

Yes, trolling and devil's advocate has it's moments

I prefer being the devil's advocate over trolling. Trolling just produces Schadenfreude, which isn't that useful in fueling your personal growth and might even retard it. It is also a sign of low self-esteem. Acting like the devil's advocate on the other hand makes like the Threshold Guardians of tales. Doing so strengthens the person you are struggling with while improving your own skills as well.

 

[TimeAsylums]

I prefer being the devil's advocate over trolling. Trolling just produces Schadenfreude, which isn't that useful in fueling your personal growth and might even retard it. It is also a sign of low self-esteem. Acting like the devil's advocate on the other hand makes like the Threshold Guardians of tales. Doing so strengthens the person you are struggling with while improving your own skills as well.

Yes hence:

has its moments

 

[Pyropyro]

Arguing =No, as much I possible I don't like arguing. Too much feelings involved and I'm pretty sure both parties will lose.
Debating = as long as the rules are in place then I'm in. I sometimes get too excited if both parties are competent.
Sharing = My favorite actually, you let the info flow. There's a temptation for this to evolve into a debate but sometimes it's best to be quiet and learn new information (or play with them in meditation after the sharing) instead.

 

[Spirit]

Intelligent Neurological Theoretical Pontificating

Arguing is pointless.
Debating can be good if rules are set
Sharing I would rather have a discussion about interesting topics.

 

[TimeAsylums]

Intelligent Neurological Theoretical Pontificating

Interesting.

Pontificating = rofl.

 

[Jennywocky]

Arguing = no, hate it, avoid it
debating = depends. nowadays I don't have a lot of time to debate unless it's something important
discuss e.g. non-rigorous low-key debate = more of this, I just don't care enough about the topic enough to invest a lot of energy in serious debate at this time of life, usually
sharing = more the common mode, nowadays. I like to learn and know and gather info, this is how I go about it

 

[Spirit]

Interesting.

Pontificating = rofl.

Well... I was channeling Richard Dawkins...

 

[redbaron]

1. What is your type?
2. Do you enjoy arguing/debating/sharing/or anything?
3. ^Why?

1. INTP
2. I enjoy debating and sharing, provided the other person is creative. Argument can be interesting. People are much more blunt and open when they're angry and I don't mind provoking people if I think that they're not acting or speaking with an appropriate level of foresight.

It's a last resort, but argument is not intrinsically a bad thing. There are things worth being vehement about, especially when you're quite knowledgeable on the subject and there are real (potential or definite) consequences.

3. I enjoy hearing the perspectives of creative people. I value creativity and independence over intelligence.

I'd prefer to discuss things with an imaginative dullard than an uninspired intellectual. Though obviously the best of both is the goal.

 

[Brontosaurie]

Ooh, interesting statement, why do you find it the hardest?

it's hard not to turn every discussion to theoretical hair splitting and speculation, imo.

if you can get past such "cognitive tics" you can learn a lot.

debate - conducted in a silly way and not formally - is a wonderfully dynamic game but there seems to be something more serious, interactive and worthwhile beneath it. that would be sharing. communication.

 

[Duxwing]

Type: INTP
Arguing: As redbaron said, if raising my voice will best prevent practical consequences, then sure.
Debating: I'm rethinking my attitude toward it--it seems to posses a complex emotional underpinning.
Sharing: The urge to debate whilst so doing is almost unbearable.

-Duxwing

 

[Void]

Type: INTP
Arguing: maybe as mentioned for giggles, as devil's advocate. But a real argument no.
Why: I do really bad when it comes to feels, because my underlying thoughts are always different than other people's. They give statements of which I can't think of an example right now because they are complete bullshit and I therefore always forget them, follow by 'Don't you agree?' or 'Right?', and I always have a complete different view on the matters.
Debating: Yesh, sorta
Why: Inventing New Thought Patterns. As long as I can make people (re)think about something and learn new things, I am glad to do so. Though, a debate implies winning and losing, I think, and I rather have an open end than that, so:
Sharing: This would be the most fun.
Why: see above.

I made a thread in a gaming forum some time ago about people their religion, and why their religion is the true one and the others are false. I debated their arguments, and they debated mine in turn. I liked the debates, but some people said that such a thread was pointless, even bad, and that no one was going to change their view. I just wanted to understand how religious people thought about religion, and not degrade them or anything or try to change their views. I just want to understand.

 

[Vict]

Verbal sparring, maybe, to dig out some details. I don't have a mind for serious debate.

Argument is a gray area. An argument to some is a straightforward confrontation and discussion to me. The goal is resolution and closure.

 

[BluePantsMcgee]

1. What is your type?
Intp

2. Do you enjoy arguing/debating/sharing/or anything?
No

3. ^Why?
I grew up in a family where arguing/debating is futile. My family, espacially my father's side, argue/debate about the most useless subjects which they all have the same opinion on. And everyone just keep repeating the same arguments over and over but in different words. It is a real drag just to listen to. This slowly made me resent the complete idea of ever going into an argument/debate. This would have probably happened eveb without my family's influence, but later on.

 

[Aeroflot]

1. What is your type?

INTP

2. Do you enjoy arguing/debating/sharing/or anything?

I don't like debating.

3. ^Why?

Because it's a waste of time, because it doesn't stimulate the right areas of my brain. Usually I just ignore the other person's question.

 

[Lucifer van Satan]

Type: INTP

Do you enjoy arguing/debating/sharing/or anything with somebody?

Arguing: A waste of energy that is better substituted with any of the following two.
Debating: If not of a professional nature, and if the second debater is intelligent and creative enough, it can be an exciting logical real-time strategy game.
Sharing: Sure, as long as both of us are interested.

 

[Architect]

1. INTP obviously
2. Yes
3. I rarely do it because nobody knows how to informally debate or cares to. The exception is at work where we can "discuss" or "argue" a technical point, which is essentially a debate. That's OK, but after doing it for so long it is wearing a bit. It basically comes down to a typological debate. The Sensors argue in favor of tradition - what solutions we've done before - while I argue in favor of doing something new and innovative.

 

[SOLROCK]

I'm pretty sure I'm an INTP. I very much enjoy debate. I enjoy debate because I feel it provides a chance for a more intense understanding of a topic based off of new perspectives you might gain on that topic from either defending a new argument or hearing out the argument of another participant. That and i enjoy the sport of it.

 

[Pinion]

What is your type?

Thought INFJ for awhile, but it's most likely IxTJ. Hell if I know right now.

Do you enjoy arguing/debating/sharing/or anything? Why?

The only one I actually enjoy is sharing, and that's in part because it's easy. I'm not very social or interested in others by default, but it's a start that takes very little out of me. If someone has something I want to hear about, awesome. If not, no loss. Sometimes its nice just to listen and be listened to.

Debate can be interesting, but I don't see anything to gained from many of the debates I come across online and the people I know rarely debate offline. If I'm curious I can do my own research and find a wider variety of information faster, but to be fair I sometimes read other people's debates to get me started.

I think arguing is a waste unless you have a goal in mind. Nobody's opinions change and new information is very rarely brought to the table; nobody comes to an argument to learn. Online, people watch you both make idiots of yourselves and laugh at you away from the main spectacle with a few thinking, "What douches these guys are." Sometimes everyone leaves feeling like shit and regretting it.

 

[ummidk]

Type: ENTP

Well firstly, I can and do often have conversations that could count as all 3 (informal debating though). However for the purpose of this thread, heres my opinion on the lines you've drawn:

Arguing can be enjoyable and I've certainly gotten something out of certain arguments, but it is largely unproductive.

Formal debating...No... but I don't know that I do any formal debating, the formal debates I've watched however seem to be two people reading persuasive essays with opposing thesises(Iunno?). The format is quite dull and doesn't allow for much back and forth. I suppose rules could easily be different, but I don't really like the idea of rules for a disucssion in the first place.

Sharing...I enjoy this the most, just a relaxed discussion.

 

[doncarlzone]

I think an unemotional rational debate is an illusion but one worth encouraging none the less.

We like to proclaim that the truth is the ultimate goal of any reasonable discussion (it certainly is for me). However, I often find that when I engage in debates/discussions where my rational rhetoric is stronger than that of my "opponent", the truth itself seems to get lost as I am not fed enough coherent data.

Sharing - I like sharing but a part of me always feels like I'm trying to avoid the 'sharing' become 'debating' because as soon as I feel the urge to correct the other person it starts swinging towards debating. I've also noticed that alot of people I've come in contact with seem to prefer sharing as it offers them a means to say the craziest things and proselytize without ever offering any coherent justifications as it is all just 'my opinion' and 'sharing what I've learnt'.

Exactly my thoughts. I had an ENFP co-worker friend once who would love this idea, as it would allow him to share his views on 911 conspiracy theories and alien abductions without being ridiculed.

 

[scorpiomover]

Type: INTP.

Arguing/debating: Hate it. I used to do it, if someone said something completely illogical, as is often the case. But it would quickly devolve into a VERY unpleasant situation. If I would win, the other person would go off like a sore loser, and would just keep spouting his nonsense elsewhere. If I would lose, then they would keep spouting their nonsense here and elsewhere. Either way, logic would lose, and humanity would just become more illogical. My Ti and Fe hate the results with a fiery passion.

Sharing: LOVE IT! When I'm swapping information with others, I learn more and so do they. Win-win for everyone. My Ti and my Fe love it.

Banter: LOOOOVE ITTTTT! It's the best. You can play with others, without the other person getting offended. You can share ideas with others, and you and the other person learn from each other. You and he only challenge each other's ideas in jest, but in the process, truthful points emerge about the weaknesses in each others' ideas, and because it's only in jest, everyone improves both ideas. The benefits of arguing/debating, and the benefits of sharing, with none of the disadvantages. How can anyone with Ti & Fe not love that?

 

[Puffy]

I don't personally enjoy arguments or debates. I've rarely seen anyone in the latter come out with a changed view, it's more like an overly formalistic game to me.

I find my best ideas often emerge spontaneously; I don't really excel in rigid, rule based environments. Bouncing off someone in conversation is the best, especially where two people are particularly complementary to each other.

 

[cynibon]

~INTP
Argument, debate - no
sharing - not in person. The kind of sharing that is taking place in this thread is OK. Nuances often get lost in conversation, and the ideas are usually not very deep, because the interaction is distracting. But, like Puffy says above, that environment can lead to spontaneous ideas. Maybe I'm jaded, but I don't think there are many of those left. )-: (no sad smilie? You will all be happy, or we will beat you until you are. And where's the moue?) What thoughts haven't been thought before, by somebody, somewhere?

I think I like the ISTP way. Listening to a conversation as long as you aren't officially part of it. Here, that would be lurking.

 

[Magus]

INTP.

Enjoy debating/arguing. I find formal debating (the public speaking sense) to be a very dishonest way of weighing between the value of different ideas. I've competed at university level and honestly it has more in common with theatre than it does any sort of intellectual pursuit.

Essays strike the perfect balance between insofar as they are not long enough to allow the author to stray far from the point they are trying to make and yet allow someone to comprehensively make the case for something.

Arguing in a conversationalist sense can be fun when I am in the mood and the topic/other party is interesting. I find these sorts of arguments never ever lead anyone to actually change their views, but typically are just amusement between intellectual hedonists, often just playing devils advocate or role playing by pretending to argue for perspectives which they don't accept themselves. Sadly a lot of people are not thoughtful enough to find this sort of banter fun.

 

[patchtrix]

ENTP!!

I love debating ( according to your definition) It irritates me to no end when I try having honest discussion with someone of different opinion, and they get all emotional and offended. I usually end up just getting sick of it and cutting them down, thus making them more angry lol.

I like debating because I like to hear things from a different or new angle that I might not have thought of before, and because it helps me to use some critical thinking. I love new ideas.