Diablo II

[Decaf]

So what's the difference between 1.11 and 1.12? I've already updated to the the latter, but I wouldn't be averse to a do-over.

 

[inerTia]

1.11b and 1.12 reason why I would recommend 1.11b is that "plugy" the plugin works with 1.11b, unless they have a new version which works with 1.12, but I have not checked if "plugy" would or would not work with 1.12.

- Patch 1.12
Downloadable Installer Support
- If all required Diablo 2 '.MPQ' files are installed on the
hard drive, the game will no longer require the CD to play.
For users that originally performed a 'Full Installation'
and wish to run without the CD, all '.MPQ' files should
be copied from the Diablo 2 CDs to the Diablo 2 directory.
Most users will only need to copy D2Music.mpq from the
Diablo 2 Play CD and/or D2xMusic.mpq from the Lord of
Destruction CD. Mac users will need to copy these music
files and rename them to 'Diablo II Music' and
'Diablo II Expansion Music' respectively.
Anyone who did not perform a 'Full Installation' will need
to re-install from CD again to ultimately play without the CD.
In this case, a 'Full Installation' is required, followed by file
copy step noted above.

Bug Fixes
- Fixed an incompatibility between Rosetta and OpenGL mode on Intel Mac.
- Patch 1.11b

FIXES:
- Fixed a bug that could cause a crash when you return to chat after
playing a game on Battle.net.
- Fixed a bug that could cause a crash when the runeword "Peace" was
equipped on a hireling.

Since we are playing with d2loader we dont need to worry about 1.12, but Im going to check to see if "plugy" would work on 1.12, I will post further if this will work or not, or if it would need 1.11b.

 

[inerTia]

From what I have read so far, "plugy" works with 1.11b only so if we want ladder enabled rune words, than we might have to use 1.11b and "plugy" else if no one cares, 1.12a is the way to go, don't need to worry about anything with cracks, since the patch automatically disabled the need for cracks or play disc.

 

[Ulysses]

build. =3

If I am still the orchestrator to this, then in a little less then a week. (and even more, my computer wont let me get passed act 1 on single player...) ... (I guess I could do the 'act' cheats and just transfer my crap over)​

You know, I could do a much better job at organising this quickly and efficiently. All you have to do is give me the signal.

 

[Decaf]

Well, I'm playing on 1.11 now and I'm nosing around to see if the server I play Enemy Territory and a number of other games might add D2 to the mix. The server manager is a bit over-burdened right now, but I'll let you know if I hear anything positive.

You know, I could do a much better job at organising this quickly and efficiently. All you have to do is give me the signal.

Not the best way to word your offer of assistance. Might be good to mitigate some of that next time.

 

[Ulysses]

Decaf: I often put smilies at the end of sentences that are written in a condescending manner but are not meant to be taken as so. I hope Chris realises this and does not take my offer of assistance in the same way you have.

Also, a hosting service would be quite useless here since D2 LAN does not allow the hosting of dedicated servers. Since we're going to be connecting through Hamachi, we could use its built-in chat function to designate a host before each game.

 

[Cryss Winters]

You know, I could do a much better job at organising this quickly and efficiently. All you have to do is give me the signal.

I did take it a little condescending, but I'm fine.

Sure thing, I'm a little busy at the moment... -yawns and goes out to smoke-​

 

[Ulysses]

I've changed my mind. Sorry.

 

[Oblivious]

Quit moping around people! Let's get these servers up and start pwning stuff together!

edit: We can use irc to coordinate sessions.

 

[Wisp]

Can I join in late? I have a fair amount of gaming time this summer that I could burn... >

I will likely play a Sorceress.

 

[Decaf]

ok, who's on board for Sunday? Something along the lines of noon PST (to allow for timezone availability)

 

[fullerene]

heh, I actually think I lost my LoD disc... so I'd find it hard to play at all. Unfortunate...

 

[Cryss Winters]

heh, I actually think I lost my LoD disc... so I'd find it hard to play at all. Unfortunate...

shut up, you're just not in the mood yet/anymore! =3 haha

I'll actually be home Sunday, we should correlate a time and get it goin'​

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Will we be starting with new characters?

 

[Decaf]

Let's start at the beginning so we can use the same characters the next few times we play and keep building 'em up. We got a long time yet before D3 comes out

 

[Cryss Winters]

What are we doing, Battlenet? TCP IP?

 

[fullerene]

I thought we were thinking of using that private server decaf mods for, if we could?

I'll....... find my disc somewhere before then, I'm sure.

 

[Oblivious]

By the way I've found something potentially useful;

http://d2sector.net/downloads/index.php?dlid=183

The name says all, its the pseudoresolution sheppard released for 1.11 updated for 1.12! This allows you to use a resolution of 1300x700
Inject it into your D2 process and push the SUB (-) key on numpad! All files needed to inject are included.

 

[Oblivious]

Hrm it works for me but crashes the game sometimes oh well.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

I can't play Diablo II online, I've got the game but without administrator rights I can't install it on the internet equipped laptop I'm using, essentially it's a work computer.

Anyway, I can still play it on my computer (good for games an nothing else, a construct of cannibalised parts) so I'm wondering if anyone could share some tips for playing as the necromancer?

 

[Oblivious]

There are plenty of guides online with lots of useful info like:

http://strategy.diii.net/searchcat.php?cid=33

But if you have any specific questions ask away.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

I'm trying to specialise in summoning spells, specifically "skeleton", "skeleton mage" and "skeleton mastery", but this seems to have turned on me. Sure once I've got a few corpses to work with I can create a nigh unstoppable hoard, but catch is getting those few initial corpses.

I need corpses to make corpses, but my all my stats and gear are geared towards keeping my guy alive and providing mana to support the hoard.
What should I do?

 

[zxc]

I'm trying to specialise in summoning spells, specifically "skeleton", "skeleton mage" and "skeleton mastery", but this seems to have turned on me. Sure once I've got a few corpses to work with I can create a nigh unstoppable hoard, but catch is getting those few initial corpses.

I need corpses to make corpses, but my all my stats and gear are geared towards keeping my guy alive and providing mana to support the hoard.
What should I do?

Use a golem to get some initial corpses, then go from there. If it's still impossible (which I doubt) then go to an easy area via waypoint, kill some enemies, and start your horde that way. I do hope you have a point in each of the golems!

Try to max out Skeletal Mastery rather than the actual Skeleton and Skeletal Mage skills. That way, when you hit lvl 30, your revived monsters will be strong. A few curses are useful too (only put one point in them), Amplify Damage and Iron Maiden. Corpse explosion is useful too, in the right situations.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

Are the exploding & gas potions worth my time?

Should I look into getting a proper weapon, or just stick with the wands?

Which is better, skeleton warriors, skeleton mages, or a healthy mix of both?

What the hell is a weapon's "attack rating"?

Corpse explosion is useful too, in the right situations.

My most recently acquired wand gave me that skill, way too much fun

 

[zxc]

Are the exploding & gas potions worth my time?

Should I look into getting a proper weapon, or just stick with the wands?

Which is better, skeleton warriors, skeleton mages, or a healthy mix of both?

What the hell is a weapon's "attack rating"?


My most recently acquired wand gave me that skill, way too much fun

* Exploding and gas potions aren't worth your time. Stick with items like wands and zombie heads which give you (useful) skills, at least for the moment. You should very rarely be actually attacking.

* It depends, so I guess have a mix of both. Make sure you have a point in clay golem, blood golem, etc. as they are very strong and useful (use the most advanced golem you can get for your lvl). Blood golem works really well with the curse Iron Maiden. Put spare points into skills that passively boost your army (skeletal mastery, golem mastery, summoning resistance etc). Amplify damage is a very useful curse.

* Some items can boost your attack rating. The higher the attack rating, the more chance you have to hit your target with your weapon. As a necromancer, you shouldn't be hitting enemies with your weapon anyway, so it's unimportant to you. Defense rating is still useful however.

* Mercenaries from Act II are very useful too, as they have auras which aid your entire army. Get a 'combat' one to heal your party over time, or a 'defensive' one to increase your party's defense rating (get hit less often), or an 'offensive' one to increase your party's attack rating (chance to hit enemies). I would probably go for the defensive one, but it's your choice. Make sure you give your merc a high dmg weapon, they'll become your single biggest source of dmg output

 

[Decaf]

No I won't be able to use the private server I ref for. Instead I'll be hosting from my own computer. We can't use Battlenet because several of us have set ups that would be immediately banned on connecting to one of their servers. I bought the game a long while back but don't have the discs anymore, so while its not illegal, its not like they're gonna be understanding about it.

Everyone remember to use version 1.11. The reason is that there's very little difference between 1.11 and 1.12, but we have a lot more mod flexibility with the former.

I'll message everyone my IP if you've stated that you'll be playing in this thread. If its not in your box 10 minutes after this posting, message me and I fix that.


-edit- I just realized in sending the messages that I had 10 people who expressed more than hesitant interest, so it would be good to know whether or not you'll be able to make THIS iteration of INTPf family fun night.

 

[Sugarpop]

Played some a few years ago but only beat the original. I might join if I find my CD-key when I get home.

 

[fullerene]

I disagree with zxc's "only put points into the mastery, not the actual skeleton skills" bit. That used to make sense, but in one of the newer patches, revives got tones way down, and skeletons/mages got boosted considerably. In general, the "mastery" skills will help keep your summons alive longer, while the actual "skeleton summon" skills will make them do more damage. So if you find them dying quickly, put points into the mastery. If you find them unable to kill opponents, stick them into the actual summon skill.


...I've made a few pure summoner builds, in years past . They're quite fun.... but I'd suggest against them if Decaf's connection isn't all that fast. When your army really starts getting big, it fills up the whole screen and creates a whole lot of lag for everyone.

 

[Cryss Winters]

Everyone remember to use version 1.11. The reason is that there's very little difference between 1.11 and 1.12, but we have a lot more mod flexibility with the former.

I have 1.12 downloaded. How can I delete the patch? Is it possible? Would I have to delete the whole thing? I only have my play disc.. >.>​

 

[Wisp]

Sorry Decaf, I have a family reunion on Sunday. Also, what GMT is PST time?

 

[Latro]

Sorry Decaf, I have a family reunion on Sunday. Also, what GMT is PST time?

PST is -8.

 

[JoeJoe]

Why is everyone only talking about diablo?

 

[Decaf]

OK, having forgotten that I recently moved behind a firewall I missed the fact that the IP I sent out is useless. Taking Inertia's advice I'll try to run it over Hamachi. The server is 'diablo2.intpforum.com' and the password is 'intpness'. I'm new to the program, so no guarantees it'll work flawlessly, but so far I haven't run into any difficulties.

This will require anyone who wants to play to connect to the server through Hamachi, so here's the link. Its free for non-commercial use.

 

[Oblivious]

omg decaf is the only one on this?

JOIN PEOPLE!!

 

[Oblivious]

I'm trying to specialise in summoning spells, specifically "skeleton", "skeleton mage" and "skeleton mastery", but this seems to have turned on me. Sure once I've got a few corpses to work with I can create a nigh unstoppable hoard, but catch is getting those few initial corpses.

I need corpses to make corpses, but my all my stats and gear are geared towards keeping my guy alive and providing mana to support the hoard.
What should I do?

Necromancers arent the melee sort of character unless you put points into poison dagger which isn't very advisable unless you are doing it for a challenge. I once downed nightmare baal with nothing but stabbing and life tap o.o

So put a few points into your direct damage bone spells to make those early corpses, and definitely into corpse explosion. At higher levels when the blast radius is high enough you can clear a room in one or two casts.

Are the exploding & gas potions worth my time?

Should I look into getting a proper weapon, or just stick with the wands?

Which is better, skeleton warriors, skeleton mages, or a healthy mix of both?

What the hell is a weapon's "attack rating"?


My most recently acquired wand gave me that skill, way too much fun

Exploding potions and gas potions are for fun items which are generally only useful in normal difficulty.

Necros are caster types so I'd stick with a wand with good +skills.

If you are going commander type necro getting a mix of all summons is most effective.

Attack rating would be the variable that influences the probability of landing a hit. Generally none of your necro's concern.

 

[juturna]

I'm in!!!!!! I haven't played in so long!

 

[Oblivious]

By the way, the curse amplify damage increases the effect of corpse explosion. It's a very powerful combination.

Another useful resource: http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/classes/necromancer.shtml

 

[fullerene]

I'm still working on installing it. Wine is giving me some trouble, because I'm trying to avoid playing on windows. I've got those sorted out, I think (assuming the game works after it's done installing, that is), but wasn't expecting to use Hamachi at all. I'm hoping it doesn't turn into a nightmare to configure and make work.

edit: actually, scratch that. I had one more unexpected problem installing, and it was one more than I'm willing to deal with at 5:40 in the morning. I'll just play with you guys another time... sorry 'bout that. Sounds like you've got more than you can handle in a single game anyway, though.

 

[Oblivious]

My problem was that my mom threw away my CDs. Nothing a good pirate torrent couldn't fix.

On another note. I have not been playing D2 in ages but I somehow have gotten better. Killing Andariel with my necro on the first run for instance. Never done that before.

Edit: Duriel might be a different story though....

 

[RobertJ]

Came out of forum retirement to post on this thread...
D2 is the best game of all time if you ask me. I think it's a good idea to get together and play online, granted I usually play Hardcore mode - not sure if any you do. I had a level 84 HC Necromancer but I stripped him and deleted him waiting for the upcoming patch/ladder reset which was supposed to happen by April! At any rate, I will probably wait until ladder resets before I play again.

 

[Decaf]

I admit I should have just started a thread with a poll so I could figure out who was going to show up, but noon PST was an hour ago. I'm just gonna go ahead and play for a bit and help level whoever might join later. If you're having trouble connecting to the server, get on Hamachi so we can troubleshoot it.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Currently hosting a game. JOIN!

6.176.89.237

 

[Decaf]

I have 1.12 and I can do TCP/IP if you want, join. 192.168.1.64

As was pointed out to me, 192.168.* is an internal address. That means that no external system can directly access it. Are you behind a router or firewall?

 

[Cryss Winters]

As was pointed out to me, 192.168.* is an internal address. That means that no external system can directly access it. Are you behind a router or firewall?

...o.0 I have a router?

 

[inerTia]

Sorry I could not make it, is any one still on as of now? If so would any one care for a game?

 

[Latro]

...o.0 I have a router?

ipchicken.com

Use it.

 

[fullerene]

ok. I think I have everything set up and configured properly. Is anyone who is sure that they can host it hosting? I'd like to see if it works for sure.

edit: ok, I'm relatively sure I can play, now. I tried to join decaf's game, and it gave me the "version's don't match" error. In the corner, it says that I'm on version 1.11. Did you guys go ahead and decide to use 1.12 anyway?

 

[inerTia]

Ya there was a mishap, Decaf had 1.12a so did Adair, so we are now all on 1.12a

 

[Ulysses]

Can I ask everyone who's playing to post their connection speeds here? This might help us to minimize latency by giving participants on faster connections precedence to host.

My connection:
Download: 7.04 mb/s
Upload: 0.67 mb/s

http://www.speedtest.net/

 

[inerTia]

Somethings wrong with Hamachi... anyone have trouble with it in the past?

Hamachi said 30 mins ago that they would be restarting the servers :P