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I can't help you,right now I'm supposed to be writing a very important 25 pages long parer for school but I just can't bring myself to do it.Even though it's easy stuff I'd rather hang out on the internet.And my plans have the same fate as yours,so it's problem for me too. 
Ogion
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Don't plan, just carpe diem 
I think it is beetter because you are more able to react and be flexible. You can experience things better since you don't plan them all out. Just enjoy the Now, because there won't be a tomorrow, because tomorrow it is Now again...
That's probably just naive and unrealistic, but so far it worked for me.
Ogion
I think it is beetter because you are more able to react and be flexible. You can experience things better since you don't plan them all out. Just enjoy the Now, because there won't be a tomorrow, because tomorrow it is Now again...
That's probably just naive and unrealistic, but so far it worked for me.
Ogion
Ogion
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Yea as Aces said. Haha, yellow bastard. (BTW, i am more of a nights person as well )
Really, did that help? For me it feels kind of like something which goes right and right and right and you are asking yourself when it will go bad, because it feels like it has to go bad someday.
Ogion
)Really, did that help? For me it feels kind of like something which goes right and right and right and you are asking yourself when it will go bad, because it feels like it has to go bad someday.
Ogion
I'd rather have fun and let my "system" collapse now and then than have it "perfect" without fun and joy.
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I test as an IXTX sometimes, even though I'm really an INTP. But, this does mean that I sometimes can pretend to be a J and be okay.
I've noted in my own life that sometimes I do better when I don't plan, and sometimes I do better when I do plan. It's been a matter of trial and error. I have found the parts of my life that go better for me when I plan and what parts go better when I don't.
I don't know too many people (okay, I don't know any) who can function happily entirely by planning or not planning everything.
Dave
I've noted in my own life that sometimes I do better when I don't plan, and sometimes I do better when I do plan. It's been a matter of trial and error. I have found the parts of my life that go better for me when I plan and what parts go better when I don't.
I don't know too many people (okay, I don't know any) who can function happily entirely by planning or not planning everything.
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Firstly, you can thrive in unpredictable situations, whereas Js, particularly SJs, would suffer. You have an open mind by default, you're comfortable being a "jack of all trades" and having lots of hobbies, you're good at procrastination, and it's fun being playfully spontaneous.
Some people view procrastination as a bad thing, but part of being a habitual procrastinator is that you work best under pressure and time constraints. Also, it's a great gift to not have a plan for life. I've seen many people suffer because they had to stick to their original life goals.
Some people view procrastination as a bad thing, but part of being a habitual procrastinator is that you work best under pressure and time constraints. Also, it's a great gift to not have a plan for life. I've seen many people suffer because they had to stick to their original life goals.
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One of the bad points of being an INTP is not being able to see things through as well as other types, but that downfall is greatly compensated by many benefits this type has. For example when an INTJ is theorizing they will make theories which translate over to an actuall plan or system, while an INTP gets to make much broader theories which are not limited by the need to be applied, so are much more creative.
Because of how this thread has progressed I think here is a good time to settle something with you fellow intpforumers.
Here it is: P means Perceiving and J means Judging, in regard to MBTI types the point of these last 2 possible letters is to point to the primary function of the type , rather than be used like the other letters. That may of been confusing so first look at this.
Your type breaks up into four letters, the first letter is obvious, whether your introverted or extraverted, the second letter is the two perceiving functions: Sensing and iNtuition, the third letter is the two Judging functions: Thinking and Feeling and the final letter is used to find your primary function, so distinguish whether your primary function is a primarily judging or a perceiving.
If your type is ENTJ your primary 2 letter type is found by first looking at the first letter, which is E and then looking at the last letter to see whether the type is a perceiving or judging type, in this case (ENTJ) is a judging type so you look at the letter T. ENTJ's primary function is Extroverted Thinking.
From that you can figure out the primary type of all Extroverted types, all you do is get the first letter and find what the second letter is by looking at the last letter. eg ESFP: ES, ENFP: EN, ESFJ, EF etc.
The tricky part is figuring out the primary function for introverts (actually very easy once you understand it) to find the primary function of an introverted type you have to look at the last letter, and that actually points to what the primary function is not, instead of what it is. For example INTP's primary function is Introverted Thinking, this was found by looking at the last letter (P) and that in this case tells you that the primary function is actually Judging so you use the judging letter (T).
So in summary: the last letter of an extroverted type points to what what the second letter of the primary function is, while the last letter of an introverted type points to what the second letter of the primary function is not.
I have recently learnt this and it explains allot but also raises a few questions, but to keep this post brief i'll just finish it here.
Because of how this thread has progressed I think here is a good time to settle something with you fellow intpforumers.
Here it is: P means Perceiving and J means Judging, in regard to MBTI types the point of these last 2 possible letters is to point to the primary function of the type , rather than be used like the other letters. That may of been confusing so first look at this.
Your type breaks up into four letters, the first letter is obvious, whether your introverted or extraverted, the second letter is the two perceiving functions: Sensing and iNtuition, the third letter is the two Judging functions: Thinking and Feeling and the final letter is used to find your primary function, so distinguish whether your primary function is a primarily judging or a perceiving.
If your type is ENTJ your primary 2 letter type is found by first looking at the first letter, which is E and then looking at the last letter to see whether the type is a perceiving or judging type, in this case (ENTJ) is a judging type so you look at the letter T. ENTJ's primary function is Extroverted Thinking.
From that you can figure out the primary type of all Extroverted types, all you do is get the first letter and find what the second letter is by looking at the last letter. eg ESFP: ES, ENFP: EN, ESFJ, EF etc.
The tricky part is figuring out the primary function for introverts (actually very easy once you understand it) to find the primary function of an introverted type you have to look at the last letter, and that actually points to what the primary function is not, instead of what it is. For example INTP's primary function is Introverted Thinking, this was found by looking at the last letter (P) and that in this case tells you that the primary function is actually Judging so you use the judging letter (T).
So in summary: the last letter of an extroverted type points to what what the second letter of the primary function is, while the last letter of an introverted type points to what the second letter of the primary function is not.
I have recently learnt this and it explains allot but also raises a few questions, but to keep this post brief i'll just finish it here.
as a note.. ive got problems identifying those random types.... ESFPS ISTPS ISFJ's ESTJS. really confusing.
but it is indeed correct that if you see a person who is introverted it becomes obvious quite fast if that introvert is judging or perceiving extrovertedly. that's already gonna know if its dominant J or P introverted =)
im able to type like 20/27 of my classroom. obviously some are more clear than others because of how much i know about certain ones
but it is indeed correct that if you see a person who is introverted it becomes obvious quite fast if that introvert is judging or perceiving extrovertedly. that's already gonna know if its dominant J or P introverted =)
im able to type like 20/27 of my classroom. obviously some are more clear than others because of how much i know about certain ones
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Yeah so J and P can also mean if your a primarity juding type or Perceving type in the sense that:
Judging
Judgers approach life in a structured way, creating plans and organizing their world to achieve their goals and desired results in a predictable way.
Perceiving
Perceivers perceive structure as being more limiting than enabling. They prefer to keep their choices open so they can cope with many problems that the know life will put in their way.
So im assuming that everyone just thinks im crazy and see's J and P like this instead of what I said. If you look at any Mbti description though it explains it like i have eg http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html
how can it be both, imma make a thread for this
Judging
Judgers approach life in a structured way, creating plans and organizing their world to achieve their goals and desired results in a predictable way.
Perceiving
Perceivers perceive structure as being more limiting than enabling. They prefer to keep their choices open so they can cope with many problems that the know life will put in their way.
So im assuming that everyone just thinks im crazy and see's J and P like this instead of what I said. If you look at any Mbti description though it explains it like i have eg http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html
how can it be both, imma make a thread for this
FF
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Heh, that's exactly what I'm doing at this very moment. Except mine is only 5 pages, so I don't have to worry too much about the fact that I'm procrastinating...I can't help you,right now I'm supposed to be writing a very important 25 pages long parer for school but I just can't bring myself to do it.Even though it's easy stuff I'd rather hang out on the internet.And my plans have the same fate as yours,so it's problem for me too.
But yeah, the good thing about P's is that they aren't too quick to judge others (sometimes no opinion is the best opinion) and they are very flexible. My mom is a J and she is not flexible at all. Everything has to be structured and organized or she freaks out. So P's have the advantage there...
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Being a P means not having to live with the consequences of passing judgment on everything, all the time. Many of the Js I know spend quite a bit of time wracking facts out of shape to fit the judgment they've already made on something. You are spared that because you canter along without doing much except enjoying the scenery.
Think of it this way: A J gets in a car to go someplace. A P gets in a car to enjoy a ride. However, you can as a P get in a car to go some place and still enjoy the ride. You just need to be aware that it's possible, that even the commute to work can feel like a Sunday afternoon drive in the country if you want.
Think of it this way: A J gets in a car to go someplace. A P gets in a car to enjoy a ride. However, you can as a P get in a car to go some place and still enjoy the ride. You just need to be aware that it's possible, that even the commute to work can feel like a Sunday afternoon drive in the country if you want.