Chess

[ejames]

Anyone here play chess? If so, at what level?

 

[Luzian]

uh, there are levels?

 

[Anling]

I play chess. But it's been a long time since I've had an opponent to play, so I'm really rusty. (This is one of the games I haven't figured out how to fairly play against myself.) And I've never done actual competitions or anything even relatively formal so I haven't got a clue about what level I would be.

 

[Aces High]

I enjoy chess, but know nothing of levels. I used to be rather good, but that was several years ago.

 

[Jordan~]

I always beat my dad and people in Iceland. But I'm more of an opportunist in chess than a strategist, so I don't suppose I'm very good.

 

[LucasM]

I don't enjoy chess. I just can't move, then I get impatient and make a rash move.

 

[Anthile]

I never liked chess. When I was younger, there was this impatience-thing, but later I realized that there is absolutely no luck in chess and so, when you´re good enough, you always win and your opponent can do nothing. I mean, humans can´t do this and you will a very good computer to do this, but even the possibility makes it uninteresting.

 

[didyouknow]

I can never be bothered thinking up a strategy and just make it up as I go along, I always get beat by the INTJs...

 

[Yozuki]

Chess is one of those loose cannon games for me. I prefer a quick hit and run game with either rush style or minimal thinking. It starts to get boring if it takes to long, or I notice my opponent is always using the same style of play without mixing it up. Fun game for me beats winning a game anyday. I still suck at checkmating.

 

[Aces High]

I'm the same way now, I'm not bad at chess, but I always play very quickly so I would not do well in a more competitive game.

 

[JoeJoe]

I'd say I'm an average player, compared to the rest of the population. The problem is that I often make a mistake because I overlook something or because I don't bother with thinking ahead enough. I think I'm strongest when there are only a few pieces left on the board.

But I really like the chess version where you have to try to get rid of all your pieces as quickly as possible. I used to make up new formations with my friend and see who wins.

 

[Perseus]

I can never be bothered thinking up a strategy and just make it up as I go along, I always get beat by the INTJs...

Strategy is meant ot be the strong point for INTPs. We lose out on tactics and silly mistakes and sometimes we get bored with the end game.

 

[boku]

Was never interested and never learned how to play it. Games with too many rules end to bore me. xD I do play Chinese Chess and suck at it though.

 

[ejames]

I would've thought more INTp's would be more interested in chess since we are interested and skilled in the area of strategy.

Games with too many rules end to bore me.

I agree for the most part. Games are usually better when the complexity lies in the playout of the game, rather than the rules.
Speaking of which, have you ever played diplomacy?http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomacy_(game)

By the way boku that is by far the best signature I've ever seen.

 

[sagewolf]

I kind of like chess, but I have no-one to play against, so I just never play and I suck at it on the rare occasions that I do.

 

[boku]

I would've thought more INTp's would be more interested in chess since we are interested and skilled in the area of strategy.
I agree for the most part. Games are usually better when the complexity lies in the playout of the game, rather than the rules.
Speaking of which, have you ever played diplomacy?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomacy_(game)

By the way boku that is by far the best signature I've ever seen.

Nope, but that game seems interesting. I'll check if my school has that board game for me to try out. (In a games design and development course, you see. )

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/lutari/12316622957931.png
A bigger version.

 

[anemian]

I'd rather play Go even though I'm pretty bad at it.

In chess you need to pay attention the every single little piece it's interesting sure. But in Go you can just follow broad patterns and there's only like 3 rules the rest is just defining how you use the system.

 

[Anling]

Has anyone else here ever played siamese chess? It's basically two connected games of chess at the same time. Whenever you capture a piece from your opponent you give it to your partner who can take a turn to put a piece into her game instead of taking a regular move. It tends to last along time, but I always enjoyed it. But I guess it would be even worse for those who don't like paying attention to all the pieces because you have to pay attention to two games worth of pieces at once. I admit, I'm a sucker for strategy games.

 

[JoeJoe]

What Anling describes I know as tandem chess. Some 7th- to 9th-graders play it all the time in our school library. What really sucks about it is that you can just wait for your partner to capture a figure because you desperately need one.

 

[zxc]

Anyone here play chess? If so, at what level?

I used to play a few years ago. I'm roughly 1800. You got ICC?

 

[ejames]

Yeah Siamese chess is so much fun. It has a lot of names: bughouse, siamese, double chess, double blitz...
I've never heard of Tandem though.

I used to use ICC as "diamond97", but now I use FICS as "duxpond".

 

[Anling]

What Anling describes I know as tandem chess. Some 7th- to 9th-graders play it all the time in our school library. What really sucks about it is that you can just wait for your partner to capture a figure because you desperately need one.

But that is what makes it so much more complicated. Though if you wait too long your opponent may become irritated and smack you upside the head. I think my brother established a limit to how long one could wait so that it didn't get boring.
One problem is when there's only three of you and so one has to play both boards. That gives the other team extra time to plot.

 

[Waterstiller]

I'm starting to get into chess and I'm wondering how other INTP's play.

How do you see the board? What goes through your mind when you play? How do you suppose different MBTI types might play differently?

Please post anything you think would be relevant or beneficial for an INTP's understanding of the game.

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

I'm starting to get into chess and I'm wondering how other INTP's play.

How do you see the board? What goes through your mind when you play? How do you suppose different MBTI types might play differently?

Please post anything you think would be relevant or beneficial for an INTP's understanding of the game.

I try to look at the flow of the game as much as the strategy. In the early game, I focus on defense and only make agressive moves if it gives me a clear advantage (taking a piece of value without sacrificing one of my own). In the midgame, that is when I try to gain a "points" advantage (pawn=1, knight=2, bishop=2.5, rook=3, queen=4). In the end game, I try to be the agressor. Force my opponent to make moves he doesn't want to and hopefully maneuver him out of position.

 

[Weliddryn]

When I play chess (primarily with my brother) we can go at it for hours. None of us talks and we are completely absorbed in the game.

I typically am continually changing my strategy based on the developing game, while he primarily has one strategy and sticks to it. (he is an INTJ).

I see everything as having potential for use, if not immediately, then for some time in the future. He, on the other hand, disregards anything not of immediate use, but keeps them in mind, focusing on the present.

I tend to use bishops and rooks very well, and he is excellent in the use of knights.

I have only recently begun playing chess, but have managed to beat him a few times (he has been playing for years).

For the most part, I can relate to Inappropriate Behavior's tactics.

 

[Minuend]

I'm also defensive in the beginning of the game. Actually, I'm defensive in the beginning of all strategy games, including RTS. And when I know I'm well protected, I attack at full force. But I sometimes get a bit impatient and make a fatal move. Because I was focusing on my great plan, and not what the other player was doing.

But I try to play a bit more aggressive in the beginning when I play chess now. It seems, for me, I usually get the advantage quicker that way. But then again, neither I or the ones I play chess with are very good at it. Haven't played it much. But I still love it, though.

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

Against a weaker opponent, early aggresion can reap rewards. However if the opponet has competently kept his defense in order, early agressive moves usually lead to you being exposed if you aren't careful. The early game is more about position, having a good defense and room to manuever for the midgame.

 

[Weliddryn]

My brother is quite aggressive in play, but he is smart. He keeps up a strong defense as well, and position is key.

He is quite fond of setting traps.

 

[Waterstiller]

Thanks for the replies and for moving my thread; I should have done a search first .

I am very reactive when playing chess; very defensive in the opening have a very difficult time choosing an offensive strategy. I admit to playing an aimless move after developing my pieces so the opponent can further their aims and I am forced to respond. I think I become paralyzed by my own possibilities. I like to look at the other person's pieces and possible moves and throw wrenches into their machine. I really don't have a competitive bone in my body. I am fairly good at playing until I get bored or feel rushed, then I give up.

It seems very analogous to how I live my life. I want to see if it's possible to make active decisions and get past the general paralysis of having too many possibilities. I'm also afraid to lose pieces in order to gain a point advantage.

 

[PhillyFanWA]

Hmm learned chess at a really young age. Used to play scholastically and hovered around 1500-1600. I'm pretty decent at strategy and can generally sense the flow of the game well, but I suck at tactics. I can see combinations when it's pointed out there is one, but during the game I'm usually impatient to look for them.
Also I hate memorization of opening lines and what not.

Now a days, I'm much better in drunk blitz, although my opponent was usually a 2200+ or a 2000+ and I get killed every time.

 

[zxc]

I try to look at the flow of the game as much as the strategy. In the early game, I focus on defense and only make agressive moves if it gives me a clear advantage (taking a piece of value without sacrificing one of my own). In the midgame, that is when I try to gain a "points" advantage (pawn=1, knight=2, bishop=2.5, rook=3, queen=4). In the end game, I try to be the agressor. Force my opponent to make moves he doesn't want to and hopefully maneuver him out of position.

FYI the standard 'values' for the pieces are: pawn 1, knight 3, bishop 3 (but usually stronger than knight), rook 5, queen 9.

Hmm learned chess at a really young age. Used to play scholastically and hovered around 1500-1600. I'm pretty decent at strategy and can generally sense the flow of the game well, but I suck at tactics. I can see combinations when it's pointed out there is one, but during the game I'm usually impatient to look for them.
Also I hate memorization of opening lines and what not.

Now a days, I'm much better in drunk blitz, although my opponent was usually a 2200+ or a 2000+ and I get killed every time.

We should have a game sometime, we're near enough in skill probably.

 

[Chronomar]

I have really complex opening set-ups...making patterns, setting up defenses so that every piece protects another, but, then, I usually find myself at a loss of what to do, and simply react to whatever the other person does instead of forming an actually working strategy.

Even if it seems like a sure win for me in the mid-game, I usually botch the end-game and cannot check-mate anyone for my life.

I still go to chess club every week, and have been playing the same game for 4 weeks. Because I always side-track everyone with a discussion on some other topic. I got into an argument over communism once and then another time about particle physics...we hold the club in a library, so it is hard not to get distracted.

My dad is an INTJ who I have never seen lose a chess game, which probably made me both love the game, and grow tired of it because I can never win.