Chess

[Perseus]

Hello,

Awake at night (I have a horrid stalker).

Surely, somebody must play chess on this group?

Recommended is

http://www.stansco.com/

Andy

 

[Auburn]

I prefer to use xat for online chess as it requires no registration.

Up for it?

 

[Artifice Orisit]

Does anyone else use pre-determined stratagies and formations?

 

[fullerene]

lol, no.

I go through streaks of interest. I used to love it when I was younger... but mostly because by the time I was about 5 I could beat my 9 year old brother consistently (awesome feeling for a younger brother, but we only got to play like half a dozen games before he gave up and never played with me again). None of my friends ever played either, so I didn't until about 11th grade, when it got real popular in our school (no, I'm not kidding. Probably about 10 guys out of 45 in the grade played). We went to a little mini-tournament and everything, and my brain actually started thinking in chess language during conversations (in arguments, or if I wanted information, I started thinking 3 lines in advance and herding the conversation the way I wanted it to go)... not so much in a deceptive way or as if I had bad intentions, its just like my foresight was extended so I could see pretty much everything that could happen in the next 30 seconds or so.

I haven't played a game in about 4 years, though... and I never learned any pre-determined anything. I could hang with people just by winging it, and I never got the motivation to get any better. I'd probably be a pretty sorry sight now, so out of practice.

 

[Agent Intellect]

i'm ok at chess, i love to play. i often play against a guy at my work on lunch break (i'm not that great at speed chess though). i usually fuck things up at the beginning of the game, but if i can get past that, i'm usually pretty good at the end game stuff. i also think people highly underestimate the power of their knights (they tend to sacrifice them early on). i've never played online chess before though.

 

[Perseus]

I just get to a standard that is acceptable in intellectual circles. Or down the pub. I will try your link, but Stan's Chess is really user friendly. Its free.

 

[Perseus]

I clicked on XAT but it looks a bit confusing to me. I am under too much stress to handle the details right now, and my computer does not like the forum. My computer is not set up properly to run some Internet facilities.

 

[Perseus]

Does anyone else use pre-determined stratagies and formations?

I have preferred openings. Strategy or tactics? Intuitives should have better strategy than sensors but lose on tactical mistakes and straight blunders.

 

[fullerene]

do they really? haha I absolutely love knights... they're so incredibly hard to pay attention to that they get overlooked, and then you can suddenly jump them out of nowhere to pin down two defenseless units at once. I've found they're actually some of my favorites later in the game because you can pin down the king and another piece pretty easily.

They're also amazing for the one "move" I actually know (I forgot... lol I actually do know one). Given the setup towards the beginning of the game on the opponent's side of the board...

rook - knight - bishop - queen - king
pawn - pawn - pawn - pawn - pawn
-------------------^^^^^----------------------

If you're playing someone who likes to move the queen out (lot of low/medium experienced people do), this pawn is just a frustrating forking point, useful for taking the rook out in a cheap and easy way. The best thing is it takes a minimum of two turns to even threaten your knight, because it's boxed in by the other pieces. lol it happened to me like 3 times before I embedded it in my head not to let that happen... highly frustrating.

 

[Perseus]

e.g. (Stan's Chess)

I swapped a Rook for a Bishop and a Pawn earlier, and it looks like it was the correct decision, but I had no idea it would end up like this!

http://www.stansco.com/cgi-bin/nc_game.cgi?442684??black?large
-----------------------------------------------------------

http://www.stansco.com/cgi-bin/nc_game.cgi?436236???large

This is interesting (well I thought so). I think this is a draw. Mistakes are still possible.

 

[fullerene]

what the hell... are those rating the same as the standard ones? if so, you must be sick with a 2300! I land around a 1250 or so, if I remember right.

how are either of these games a draw, though?

In the first one, you just move that pawn up one square at a time til it can kill his rook while he's forced to dance with his king... in in the second queen to 8H is a checkmate, even if he gets to move first.

 

[Perseus]

what the hell... are those rating the same as the standard ones? if so, you must be sick with a 2300! I land around a 1250 or so, if I remember right.

how are either of these games a draw, though?

In the first one, you just move that pawn up one square at a time til it can kill his rook while he's forced to dance with his king... in in the second queen to 8H is a checkmate, even if he gets to move first.

No, the ratings are inflated by about 450.
Mine would be about 1915, and even that is probably much too high.

I have won 110, lost 44 and drawn 19.

 

[fullerene]

mm, it's more complicated than that... I think it's a complicated function of how good the person you were playing in each match was. I think you're still probably much better than I ever was, though.

 

[bdubs]

I love chess. I'm not particularly good, but I enjoy playing with anyone who is willing. I too have developed a reputation with using knights to great effect. A friend of mine will regularly sacrifice a bishop for one of my knights every game if he has the opportunity. I find that odd because bishops can be so much more useful late game. (at least for me)

 

[Agent Intellect]

i used to like bishops more then knights, but i think i'm much more affective with knights. like cryptonia said, if you can hang on to one (or two) until the end game, they're incredibly useful. i usually start by moving both of my knights pawns out, then the knights and moving the rooks over one. its kind of an unorthadox opening (as it prevents you from castling later) but you can move your bishops up one each and keep a lot of the center board covered at the beginning of the game. and i can't say i've ever played anyone that willingly moves their queen early on in the game. i find most of those moves don't work too well because they depends on the other person making certain moves that don't usually end up happening.

 

[Perseus]

Have a go on Stan's Chess. I can recommend opponents if you are bit rusty.

I think the general idea of the INTP is to become proficient rather than expert in Chess. There are much interesting and far more complicated things to do, like girls (which treats them a bit like a commodity and I did not mean to do this). Dragons would say it contravenes their ideals.

When to do impulsive with girls (don't know*) and chess (never works). *The Dragon bit does impulsive under stress. It could be sent with flowers. But the INTP (like me) would not know the etiquette without careful study, so impulsive would be a deceit native to character. Deceit is called Personal Growth.

Andy
http://soredragon.blogspot.com/
There's a Hole in Reality through which We Can Look if We Wish

 

[fullerene]

I just might do that, perseus... we'll see tho cause I don't have much time atm--two exams on monday and this semester hasn't gone very well yet at all. Perhaps tuesday or wednesday.

I used to do that knight-pawn opening too... the only problem is that once I started to do that, got hung up somewhere else on the board (before I moved the bishop into position) and someone snuck their queen along the diagonal to take my rook.... and then of course they have a queen in the corner of your ranks. lol that one only happened once before I realized what a huge problem it was.

 

[Agent Intellect]

if you move the knights out, they guard the opening while you move the rooks over.


pawn pawn pawn pawn pawn pawn pawn pawn
rook knight biship queen king bishop knight rook

should look like this after 4 moves:

blank pawn knight blank blank knight pawn blank
pawn blank pawn pawn pawn pawn blank pawn
blank rook bishop queen king bishop rook blank

if the person you're playing against is smart, they probably won't jump those knights covering the opening since they're covered by pawns, then you can move the bishops up to the blank spots in the second row so that they guard the center board (unlike doing the "standard" king and queen pawn openings where the bishops have to move out from the middle of your ranks) and are covered by the books behind them. like i said, its a rather unorthadox opening, and i've had it backfire a couple times, but its nice to have that much of the center board covered by your bishops as you make your innitial assault with the knights.

i've also done it one side like that and one center like this:

blank blank blank pawn blank knight pawn blank
pawn pawn pawn blank pawn pawn blank pawn
rook knight bishop queen king bishop rook blank

(can also move the queens pawn out two spaces if you want)

that way you can still get a bishop (or queen) out from the center and still have the left rook to castle with.

 

[fullerene]

ahh gotcha, I didn't think of the knights covering the openings. That seems like it'd work, then. At least, it seems like something I'd try a bunch and see how it'd work.

 

[Agent Intellect]

here is a good place to practice against a computer.

 

[Melkor]

I'm alright at chess.

At least, I can beat anyone I've ever played with (just not always the first time) which doesn't amount ot much.....

 

[shaunjvallejo]

I would reccomend chess.com. Free to play either live or correspondance, and paid options for tutoring.

Very nice site.

 

[Perseus]

Hellp

Please sign on at


http://www.stansco.com/

if you want a game. I cannot get any of the other sites to work to my satisfaction. This one has the simplest format.

Andy