Career?

[Meer]

Right, I'm thinking about going back to real school in January, but I'm not sure what I'm going to do there. My arbitrary and temporary choice is pschology/philosophy. I'm considering going into academia, because most normal people think it's a bad idea, and I think most normal people are full of untrue and bad ideas.

I don't care about the American dream. I don't really care about anything, to be honest, besides creativity and the mind and helping people be more creative and less stupid and things like that. I don't want to produce or sell useless trinkets. I hate pop culture. I'm okay with sacrificing any hope of normalcy, but I don't want to be (unwillingly) homeless.

So, what do you think? Psychology, good idea? I guess I'll have to figure it out as I go, but I wish I had a really good plan.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Right, I'm thinking about going back to real school in January, but I'm not sure what I'm going to do there. My arbitrary and temporary choice is pschology/philosophy. I'm considering going into academia, because most normal people think it's a bad idea, and I think most normal people are full of untrue and bad ideas.

I don't care about the American dream. I don't really care about anything, to be honest, besides creativity and the mind and helping people be more creative and less stupid and things like that. I don't want to produce or sell useless trinkets. I hate pop culture. I'm okay with sacrificing any hope of normalcy, but I don't want to be (unwillingly) homeless.

So, what do you think? Psychology, good idea? I guess I'll have to figure it out as I go, but I wish I had a really good plan.

Excuse me but......... Are you me?

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

But yeah, psychology and philosophy are careers I'm looking into....

....Sorry for the double-post.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Yeah, same.

 

[Philosophyking87]

But yeah, psychology and philosophy are careers I'm looking into....

Same here. I keep going back and forth between the two.
I'm not very empathetic, but clinical psychology is still an option.
Or, a research scientist working for the government, or a university psychology professor/researcher.

Or, I can get a philosophy degree and try my luck at my dream of being a philosophy professor, or something attainable with a philosophy degree (like going into law, or becoming an editor, writer, or ethicist or something).

I'm extremely inquisitive, so whatever I do has to involve high abstraction.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Just don't go into philosophy/psychology there is an over-supply of people in this area.

 

[AlisaD]

Going into academia, at least in Europe, isn't such a bad choice financially either. If you're good enough, scholarships and projects you can get involved in can provide a more then a decent living, without the pressures of being "normal" and "productive" that most industries impose.

Oh, and don't listen to Proxy, his heart and mind have been replaced by these. If he carries on this way, he will reach capitalist nirvana by reducing his entire consciousness to the one spot where the two lines intersect

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Going into academia, at least in Europe, isn't such a bad choice financially either. If you're good enough, scholarships and projects you can get involved in, can provide a more then a decent living, without the pressures of being "normal" and "productive" that most industries impose.

Oh, and don't listen to Proxy, his heart and mind have been replaced by these. If he carries on this way, he will reach capitalist nirvana by reducing his entire consciousness to the one spot where the two lines intersect

Wow! That was a brilliant burn. I'm impressed.

Sigh, I need to relax, chill-out, have some fun, etc.

Do what you will think will make you happy.

 

[AlisaD]

Wow! That was a brilliant burn. I'm impressed.

Sigh, I need to relax, chill-out, have some fun, etc.

Do what you will think will make you happy.

*hands you a beer*
*gets the x-box*
*tires drinking bear*
*spits it out*
Gah, that's awful!
*tries playing games*
*sucks*
Damn, I suck
*gets a bottle of wine*
Beach?

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Beach sounds nice.

 

[Puffy]

Academia is the goal as well (:

I say take things as they come, to an extent. So much is dependant upon these opportunities that just fall in your lap. Degrees take like 3 years here, by the end of it you can have different ideas of what interests you. I say go for a topic you feel passionate about and just keep your eyes open while you're there.

 

[Philosophyking87]

lol @ "Sucks" and "Damn, I suck"

 

[PhoenixofVindemiatrix]

Beach sounds nice.

I thought you hated the beach.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Do whatever you think your mind is best suited for. There is nothing wrong with entering a saturated field - sufficient internal increase in pressure can cause high bursts of change over the whole system.

If there is an influx of people in psychology and philosophy, then by all means learn those subjects, to the point of even trying for a career in them. The more people that are doing something, the more interpersonal bonds, thus leading to your contributions having a higher chance of attaining significant levels of influence.

 

[Words]

Here's a type-perspective:

If you're INTP and has an even slight interest in math, go for Computer Science. Then invent something revolutionary and enter entrepreneurship. That's your genetic role. (lol)

If you don't have interest in math, then you can just teach those subjects as a professor.

If you're not INTP, figure out your type.

I think it would be wiser to follow this algorthm in reverse.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

I thought you hated the beach.

I didn't say I wanted to go swimming or contact the sand...

 

[Secretpilgrim]

Hmmmm..... My thoughts towards a career was a little different.

When it comes to work, screw "doing what you love" because in the end, it all becomes work. Instead, DO WHAT YOU ARE GOOD AT DOING. This helps keep work based stress levels down. Do what you love outside of work..... Then it is on your terms, not on your boss's/client's terms.....

Just a thought...

 

[grey matters]

I have a degree in psychology. It was really fun. The problem is that you can't do much with it unless you get at least a masters degree. If you are going to go this rout understand that you, and your money are in it for the long haul.

As for careers in Psychology be wary of counseling especially if you only have only a 4 yr degree. People who make good counselors are empathetic and get something out of sharing feelings. I suck at this. I always want to fix the problem. Funny thing is that being an Intp I can analyze the problem easily. fixing it...well they think you need a higher degree to do anything serious. Lower degreed people do more hands on shit. the stuff that realistically speaking you really don't need a degree for. Stuff like drug counseling or working in a home for wayward teens. Both of which make shit money, the stress is through the roof, and everyone treats you like an uneducated idiot. If you have personality, charisma and empathy you can do well but analytical abilities are not really that important here.

Academia and research could be a blast for you. Just understand that you will never make a lot of money.

No one here has considered coupling Psychology with an advertising degree. There are many routs to take in this field from graphic artist (if you have the skill) to research and (I forgot the name of it but is has something to do with branding and launching a product). The big problem with scientific research in the field of advertising is it is littered with extraneous variables. This is why so many advertising campaigns fuck up. The key (obviously) is to find the underlying thread, the thing that makes it tick whist also using your ne to see how things could possible change your parameters. INTP abilities can kick ass here but you will have to learn to work in a team environment. Blah blah blah. Anyway it might be something you might want to consider.

 

[grey matters]

I have a degree in psychology. It was really fun. The problem is that you can't do much with it unless you get at least a masters degree. If you are going to go this rout understand that you, and your money are in it for the long haul.

As for careers in Psychology be wary of counseling especially if you only have only a 4 yr degree. People who make good counselors are empathetic and get something out of sharing feelings. I suck at this. I always want to fix the problem. Funny thing is that being an Intp I can analyze the problem easily. fixing it...well they think you need a higher degree to do anything serious. Lower degreed people do more hands on shit. the stuff that realistically speaking you really don't need a degree for. Stuff like drug counseling or working in a home for wayward teens. Both of which make shit money, the stress is through the roof, and everyone treats you like an uneducated idiot. If you have personality, charisma and empathy you can do well but analytical abilities are not really that important here.

Academia and research could be a blast for you. Just understand that you will never make a lot of money.

No one here has considered coupling Psychology with an advertising degree. There are many routs to take in this field from graphic artist (if you have the skill) to research and (I forgot the name of it but is has something to do with branding and launching a product). The big problem with scientific research in the field of advertising is it is littered with extraneous variables. This is why so many advertising campaigns fuck up. The key (obviously) is to find the underlying thread, the thing that makes it tick whist also using your ne to see how things could possible change your parameters. INTP abilities can kick ass here but you will have to learn to work in a team environment. Blah blah blah. Anyway it might be something you might want to consider.

 

[Meer]

Well, I went and talked to people at the university. I could probably make up for lost time and stuff, although it might be difficult. I feel so hideously unprepared. I might not be a healthy human being.

Do what you love outside of work..... Then it is on your terms, not on your boss's/client's terms.....

I hope to do nearly everything on my own terms. It's unrealistic, but oh well.

No one here has considered coupling Psychology with an advertising degree. There are many routs to take in this field from graphic artist (if you have the skill)

This thought has crossed my mind, even if it seems to completely contradict my previous anti-consumerism moanings. I figure going to one extreme or the other is good idea, for some reason. I think I do have raw visual talent, although not a lot of skill with graphic software.

Anyways, thanks for the responses.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Do what you love vs. do what is most practical

The emphasis you put on each will probably depend on you as a person. Maybe you want to find something which fits both as well as possible, maybe you would prefer to make a split, so that in some activities you are totally enjoying it, and in some activities you would be doing it out of practicality.

I would say: don't pick a job which you hate. You want an area where you will feel indifferent at worst, and be able to get the job done regardless. If you pick something you love, but when your feelings die down lack the motivation, then it probably wasn't the best of ideas.

I don't like the idea of just working for money, or the high association which work has to money. The fundamental thing to consider is: what are you doing for others, through your work? and what effect is this work having on you?

So you want a job where:
a) you are doing the best you can for the world around you
b) your job is helping you to be the person you want to be

(from each according to his ability, to each according to his justified desires)

 

[Meer]

Okay, I've come to my senses.

I'm probably going to do a computers something, I can figure out the specifics later. With this, I could maybe develop music n stuff software, or something similar that I care about, or easily get a shitty job for a few years and then retire.

 

[Dapper Dan]

Okay, I've come to my senses.

I'm probably going to do a computers something, I can figure out the specifics later. With this, I could maybe develop music n stuff software, or something similar that I care about, or easily get a shitty job for a few years and then retire.

You can't go wrong with computers. It's in-demand and there's plenty of little niches to explore.

A bit of advice: If you find something you might enjoy doing (like music n stuff), throw something together outside of school. Classes can't cover everything, and personal projects look great on a resume. Also, make sure you do some group work. Those communication skills don't teach themselves.