Can INTP's be talkative

[Keary]

Hey everyone this is my first thread here, hope you enjoy (somehow).
Anyway, I was wondering, I've done the MBTI test a while ago, multiple times, and got INTP as my result for all of them. While I mostly agree with this to varying degrees I've find myself sometimes being talkative, which I think goes against the Introverted part of INTP. Now when I'm around those that I don't know or like I assume most think that I am a mute yet when around friends and people I'm comfortable with I notice I am extremely talkative (almost overbearingly). I was wondering if this compromises what INTP is meant to stand for and if anyone else here also does that.
Heads up, I only really have three people I consider friends but also about another six acquaintances who are the ones I'm talkative around. I still don't consider myself a social person and rarely leave my room apart from school and work (which I hate).
Cheers.
Hopefully no grammatical errors.

 

[Words]

Can extroverts be silent?


A person's response---whether he/she be introvert or ex---will depend mostly on the topic discussed.


Though I do see a tendency in Introverts in being generally more silent than Extroverts.

 

[telepathink]

I am really talkative sometimes too, depends on the situation, topic and of course the people. About some topics i can go on and on Its normal for INTP I guess. But what do I know - I found out these MBTI types only couple of days ago

 

[Keary]

So really we're just talkative when it comes to topics we're interested in and silent about uninteresting ones, while I mostly see that as a virtue most people I know complain about how I don't really show any interest in what they talk about. Also doesn't that seem similar to Asperger's in some respect, that we can be extremely talkative when it comes to our own interests and not notice if others are interested or not?

 

[Saeros]

hi, I'm not an expert at mbti by any means, but I think the introverted/extraverted dichotomy has more to do with whether we are energized more by the external world, or the internal world; that is, which one we prefer. This thread has more details, and is probably more accurate than what I've said:

http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=6582

 

[Mike72]

Yep... I ALWAYS talk about something I'm interested in, when I'm with some people... Normally, those will be I's or N's... However, I don't think I'd like to talk with T's like that.

 

[Trebuchet]

Extremely. I'm not always talking (like I did when I was a kid) but I can certainly get very chatty. Why wouldn't we be talkative?

 

[Adymus]

While I mostly agree with this to varying degrees I've find myself sometimes being talkative, which I think goes against the Introverted part of INTP.

Okay I'm going to have to stop you right there; No it doesn't.

How much one talks has nothing to do with being an introvert, that is a very common misconception. There is a slight correlation, but it is not a definite indicator.

Being an introvert simply means you get your energy from your inner world (Which is mainly Ti for an INTP), while an extrovert gains energy from their outer world. First of all, there are more ways to engage the outer world than through speaking or socializing, so with that said, it is also possible for extroverts to be quiet, and not enjoy being around people all of the time.

Your ability to articulate has to do with three things, how high or developed your articulation functions are (Fe and Te), how much confidence you have in your articulation abilities (which might require other developed functions.), and how much stimulation you are getting from the encounter.
For instance if you are having a philosophical debate with one of your friends, this is something you can keep going back into Ti to get more stimulation out of so you can come back out and articulate. But if you are just talking about the weather with some stranger, you are probably not going to have much input, because your Ti does not have much to gain from it.

 

[IssphitiKOzS]

^^^^nicely put.

That's what INTP's description -accurately- says too. I find if I'm interested in a topic I can talk a lot, but this isn't the same type of talking others do. I notice most people like to tell you everything they know on a subject without any interest in gaining anything else, never really asking questions, certain they have it all covered. Which is why I don't find myself talking too much as I mostly ask questions. Once I've drained them of what they have conversation fades because -of course- they aren't asking any questions and I've no need to share what I know, unless they've made it clear from what they've said that they don't know it.


Bad jokes however, I'm a bottomless pit.

 

[Adymus]

I notice most people like to tell you everything they know on a subject without any interest in gaining anything else, never really asking questions, certain they have it all covered. Which is why I don't find myself talking too much as I mostly ask questions. Once I've drained them of what they have conversation fades because -of course- they aren't asking any questions and I've no need to share what I know, unless they've made it clear from what they've said that they don't know it.


Bad jokes however, I'm a bottomless pit.

What your describing is actually a J trait.

But the better developed ones are not so bad about not listening to what everyone else thinks.

 

[trap]

Absolutely! I adore talking to INTPs over a wide range of topics. I think the shared Ne lends itself to a really natural conversation between my type and yours.

I find I get a lot of introverts talking to me, but I'm a journalist type, always mining for information from you guys, so I love to get you to talk.

 

[Adymus]

Absolutely! I adore talking to INTPs over a wide range of topics. I think the shared Ne lends itself to a really natural conversation between my type and yours.

I find I get a lot of introverts talking to me, but I'm a journalist type, always mining for information from you guys, so I love to get you to talk.

Neat, What type are you, trap?

 

[trap]

Neat, What type are you, trap?

To be as technical as possible I'm an eNfP, but I'm always trying to learn to speak NT as I adore your precision and all the distinctions you make when developing an argument, but my temperament is probably more NF.

 

[Adymus]

Well if you have to learn to "speak NT" then yes, I would would say that is probably the case.

Well right on, ENFPs rock, and we don't get too many of them around these parts.

 

[trap]

Well if you have to learn to "speak NT" then yes, I would would say that is probably the case.

Well right on, ENFPs rock, and we don't get too many of them around these parts.

Well, I just got a slap down for suggesting keeping the human relationships board up for non-members, I thought I had a pretty good argument, but oh well.....my NT friends have toughened me up a bit.

 

[RubberDucky451]

I second the whole "ENFP"s rock.

All the ENFP's I've known have been very enjoyable to be around.

I think introverts have a harder time working up to be talkative. I usually have to warm up before I'm very outgoing.

 

[Alice?]

I second the whole "ENFP"s rock.

All the ENFP's I've known have been very enjoyable to be around.

Agree. One of my closest friends is an ENFP and we've always gotten along great. She can really bring me out of my shell and I bring out her weird side. It's a pretty good match.

But onto the original topic- Yeah I can be pretty talkative if I'm excited about something or I'm with people I really like and feel comfortable around. Or if there's a particularly interesting conversation topic. I mostly keep to myself when I'm not around friends though.

 

[Adamastor]

I enjoy talking, but this has more to do with the fact INTPs in general like discussing things.

Well, truth is I won't bother to say a thing if there is no listener, although I always got the impression that most of my "discussions" are pretty one-sided.

I think this has something to do with the fact I am quite stubborn, I will only consider an opinion that has some kind of base, logical or not; there are always exceptions, though.

In fact, I always thought that I didn't talk because I got too many thinks to say...

 

[shadowdrums4]

Agreed on the ENFPs rock thing. I dated one, he was awesome.

On the talkitive: Yeah I can be around friends or about music or something interesting, but otherwise I'm pretty quiet. I think that's how most introverts are though. They talk about interesting things or with people they know well.

I think the listener thing has the most to do with it though, one I know a friend is listening, I can be rather talkitive. It takes me quite a while to be willing to talk about anything that isn't debate related though.

 

[Lobstrich]

I'm very talkative when I'm talking to people with brains.. Or if I'm talking to people I actually enjoy talking to. I can talk for hours and hours. If I want to talk to the person.

If I don't feel like talking to the person (which is the majority of the time, as the "general public" is shallow, narrow minded, ignorant and straight out stupid) Then no, I don't say a word, unless I have to.


Sorry for sounding like I think I'm above rest of humanity, I don't think I am..
But what I just said, IS what I think =)

 

[Escrue]

I think INTPs are usually quite shy and quiet, tending to be part of the background. But when they're around people who respect and value their ideas, they can't stop talking! Ahh, it's so sweet. But if one is lucky to hear the ideas of an INTP, they don't want them to stop talking.

 

[shadowdrums4]

I think INTPs are usually quite shy and quiet, tending to be part of the background. But when they're around people who respect and value their ideas, they can't stop talking! Ahh, it's so sweet. But if one is lucky to hear the ideas of an INTP, they don't want them to stop talking.

Well that's good to hear! One of my biggest problems with talking to people is I second guess whether the other person wants to listen to me.

 

[Escrue]

Heehee! Trust me, INTPs always hold awesomely witty and interesting conversations =D

 

[nexion]

I am introverted a great deal... and I can hold a long, conversation about something that I enjoy or find interest in, even if the person listening to me has no idea what I am talking about. It serves as more of a springboard to take a subject and think about it more anyway. What extroversion truly describes is not whether one is talkative but whether someone finds talking to others to be something that naturally excites them or gives them energy. I like talking sometimes, but I always have to be alone right after talking a lot. If I talk too much, I might barely hold a conversation with anyone for days at a time. I find it physically and mentally draining. Yet, when I turn an idea around in my head, research it, add my own twist, and then perfect my hypothesis, that really gets me hyped.

And to think I learned all this stuff from being on this forum for about 3 days.

Random thoughts, but why do post icons have a full set of runes available?

That's what INTP's description -accurately- says too. I find if I'm interested in a topic I can talk a lot, but this isn't the same type of talking others do. I notice most people like to tell you everything they know on a subject without any interest in gaining anything else, never really asking questions, certain they have it all covered. Which is why I don't find myself talking too much as I mostly ask questions. Once I've drained them of what they have conversation fades because -of course- they aren't asking any questions and I've no need to share what I know, unless they've made it clear from what they've said that they don't know it.

Oh God. I have made at least 5 of my teachers utterly hate me simply by asking questions. Ah, yes... good times.

 

[chaomon]

yee, of course! I am super talkative when it comes on explaining things, sharing my knowledge but only w/ a few people who I know that would understand it and wouldn't see me as weird person. INTJ's are the most comfortable person to talk to my best friend is a INTJ's he really understand me a lot. But way back into my elementary days.. I rarely talk! But now I think its not that I am talkative its just that I have to be talkative, I dont want to be a loner although I enjoy being alone. Although I prefer to be alone sometimes I also want to hang w/ my friends (total opposite of me) and talk about things.. I think out of hundreds friends their are only 2 INTJs and 1 INTP.