Grayman
Soul Shade
Heh, I feel like a mod already and I wanted to stop, whatever.
Patient, yeah. Mean, I try. Schemer, prefer to plan. Revenge, for what? I just fuck with RB because he can take it.
You I dont fuck with.

Heh, I feel like a mod already and I wanted to stop, whatever.
Hear hear. It seems a lot of people dgaf about civility. And then, ironically, they go round talking about the decline of civilization. Funny, that.
Telling someone to shut up in such a way violates the most fundamental values of this place. It is anti-community and anti-thought. I find it aggravating that so many people seem to not even mind. I've spent years trying to remove the toxic people that say such things from my life.
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Talk about power tripping... Ridiculous and absurd is dismissing people's negative reactions to your behaviour, oversensitive little wimps that they might be. Don't you realize how self-righteous you sound? That somehow you can be held to a different standard because you think you're so right, and that people that are wrong do not deserve respect and that basic civility can be thrown out the window if it so pleases you?
And presumably you are acting in the userbase's interest? Please. Some people clearly think that anything goes is not good for the forum. Mutual respect was what allowed this forum to flourish long before you were here.
Power tripping? We've been trying so hard for so long *not* to permaban you! We've given you far more chances than was fair, spent so much time trying to negotiate, contrary to what some here seem to think. If there's any fool here it is me for ever thinking you could change.
No need to waste any more words. You were warned, you chose to continue digging your grave, now you must go and lie in it. And go out not with a bang but with a whimper.
I know there's history of animosity between you, but that's enough. We know what you think about him, no need to repeat. You know where that road ends.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer eh?If only you'd been Bronto's sensei this would have never happened. It's all your fault, as usual. Baka.
I actually don't mind being banned, I've long accepted that I might be banned at any moment at anyone's whim if others didn't like what I was doing. I was entertaining the thought of banning myself from the admin console but I thought it's better to keep the allure of this place and overcome it with the force of my will, rather than using cheap tricks.Then he should be banned because an overall judgment of "angry insecure male" is clearly worse than a situational judgment of "clueless fool".
Now by this logic Sinny is part of the Illuminati and Grayman is really a mod. In other words reaction formation is simply a possibility and I'm also making fun of the forum's and my own propensity to psychoanalyze.
I actually don't mind being banned, I've long accepted that I might be banned at any moment at anyone's whim if others didn't like what I was doing. I was entertaining the thought of banning myself from the admin console but I thought it's better to keep the allure of this place and overcome it with the force of my will, rather than using cheap tricks.
Respect yourself Bronto. You were banned and rejected, respect the person that you are and find yourself a better place. Or are you one to plead and bicker your way back when you've been kicked?
I would rather try to eliminate people who lie than people who tell liars to shut up.
The moderation you are performing is not what the community wants.
I'm not arguing with you nor I am trying to convince you about anything.Respecting myself by taking the advice of someone who systematically refuses to even read the posts he's responding to?
You people.
Read this thread and try to tell me the decision was right in terms of community service. Or do like you always do: Drop out when proven wrong only to return later with some other arrogant bullshit.
i know "this is not a democracy" but i value this member's contribution to this community so i hereby explicitly place my unvote in favour of bronto ban reversal/robot master persona acceptance
I'm not arguing with you nor I am trying to convince you about anything.
What I said here to you is meant as advice, it is not useful now, it may never be useful actually, but there might be a moment when you self-reflect and you realise that your ego is so fragile and that you don't respect yourself.
You will continue to be a whiny, aggressive Bronto as long as your ego is fragile, you can't respect yourself and you can't respect others. Work on that...or not, up to you my friend. It's not like I believe anything I say is going to have any impact, I don't expect it to, I leave it here as sign of my good will more than anything.
Certainly you're defensive enough with the situation as it is now that you're not able to accept or understand what I'm trying to say to you and I'm not trying to make you take this pill because I don't know how, it would be coercive of me and I don't have the energy.
So after all you've said you choose to be a self-described smarmy poster and use passive agression by avoiding to call names? Why don't you say it's about Sinny or whoever else you are alluding to? Pretty sure it's Sinny though.
Yeah? If we're offering opinions on who he was thinking of I can only come up with Architect and Sinny.
let's not get all upset about other peoples shit and just move on.
Doesn't have to be, feedback adds up. If I met 10 unrelated people telling me I'm a whiny child I'd seriously start analysing what about me is making them think so and I'd try to change a few things about my presentation to see if the feedback stays the same, even if my own opinion would be opposite (assuming I'm not in a biased (insecure, defensive, etc.) mode of thought when one tries to explain away everything and the mind is excellent at providing believable excuses to avoid facing the truth). I might do it earlier, in most cases I wouldn't weigh my own opinion above 3 unrelated (unrelated to one another, could be my relatives) sources.I like your statement. I just dont know that your view of him is all that accurate.
I know you hated him, he hated you, that's sort of the gist, what's the point of attacking his person is beyond me. Do you seek to convince everyone he's worthless and negative?
I was thinking it was Munk.
Words to live by. Not even for the forum, just in a general sense.
Life is meaningless and we're all going to die. Let's just have a good time, everyone.
Hear hear. It seems a lot of people dgaf about civility. And then, ironically, they go round talking about the decline of civilization. Funny, that.
I know there's history of animosity between you, but that's enough. We know what you think about him, no need to repeat. You know where that road ends.
I-I loved you, Fukyo. (Did you ban him?) You've just ripped my heart out.
A thought...I know it was Sinny, and I know some people (including Bronto) think she has a deleterious effect on the forum and that it's not being addressed.
The irony is that in a hypothetical situation where Sinny was banned instead of Bronto we'd be going through the exact same motions. There would be a group of people saying she dindu nuffin and was contributing nice things to the forum, and was unfairly banned. Considering bans of established members disrupt the status quo, it would be completely expected. Actually, it doesn't matter who gets banned, there will always be people who liked them and didn't think they were doing anything bad.
This is not directed at you, just a general remark.
A thought...
It really depends on the environment the moderators are trying to make here what people might be good for that environment and who make the forum stray away from that environment. I dont think everyone gets what environment the moderators are trying to create.
I think whether a person deserves it or not is less relevant but not irrelevant.
I'm not saying it should be automatic but people have said that they can be. Anyone or any type could do that, but it may be easy enough to see when an "INTP" is doing it.As devil's advocate, should harassment and hostility be considered INTP traits?
Hypothetically, no one should be truly surprised at someone exhibiting behavior like that. Unless this forum is meant to be therapeutic, which in a sense it is, then only banning can be resorted to in an effort to normalize those kinds of personality quirks. I didn't really know him, so maybe he did have a personal issue or was dissatisfied with something such. In that case it isn't my business, I don't care and wasn't really trying to help just the rules here have no foundation and aren't always congruently enforced, so thought I would speak up. I already knew and said it wouldn't work, wasn't hoping to achieve an unban knowing the track record here, but people apparently don't know how to practice free speech.I am not saying he should or should not be banned but the reason he was banned would not be for things that are typical INTP unless you are saying Jerk like behavior as a constant communication style is synonymous with INTP being a type that is automatically worse than any other type.
I have seen things on other forums, if a member no matter how popular gets banned on a few occasions it finally results in a perm. Whether that was justified here or not can only be determined by certain methods. Either way apparently his content wasn't valuable enough to garner protection.Basically his behavior has nothing to do with his type which means he was banned for other reasons i.e. unnecessary projected anger. I had no problems with him personally but I would think that the mods understand his confrontationality on the forum better than I do. I have seen how he has acted thread to thread on occasion which may have been worse behind the scenes private messaging and all that. Unless you define INTP as being the jerk type then all I can say is I disagree on your definition. I only use the word jerk because I have seen posts he has made that feel jerkish to me and I believe INTP's are not necessarily jerks. Usually INTP's may dismiss you but I would not say they actively want to confront you. That would be a messed up unhealthy INTP.
I didn't see that post, and if anything maybe that is a certain personality trait that can have easy proneness and should be something one may wish to overcome, if possible, as it can come across as too quick to take a serious disliking to someone. Whatever the argument, it would seem a communication error between two people. I wouldn't say all that, it just seems like maybe at least he was frustrated at the probable inability of others to stop spreading propaganda and others for believing it willingly. His posts I'm betting weren't severe enough to warrant a ban. The drama is silly and you need better ways of working out your conflicts.One post I saw was when he said CherryCola was wrong because what he (bronto) said was logically sound and he was mad that Cherry could not see it. From this I can extrapolate that he hates certain people for being actively wrong on issues that are not really wrong. Once you get to the point where you must be right all the time I would say can be an INTP trait but that is only because I remember from a video that said Introverted thinking is the function that listens the least. Dario Nardi said Fi is the function that is the best listener. So speculatively: he hates certain people for being wrong on issues according to his logic. If hating people for being wrong is an INTP trait then yes he was banned for typical INTP behavior but I cannot see any other way for him to be banned because of his type because any type can get angry for other people being wrong on issues important enough for them to get upset about.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer eh?If only you'd been Bronto's sensei this would have never happened. It's all your fault, as usual. Baka.
The rule thread is as explicit statement of intent as it gets. It was even updated and expounded on 2-3 times precisely because of this. It's all pretty clearly stated in there. Be civil, be coherent, don't create drama, cooperate with mods if you happen to get their attention. The bar is not set high.
However, I get the impression very few people bother with that thread, ever. Whose fault is that?
Don't make me write another INTPf yaoi fanfic darn it!
*Alt-Tab's to wattpad*
Oh no it's happening again!
What happens when all the mods leave because they are fed up with our shit? How many are left and what specifically causes them to leave?. I know there are a few on the list but they aren't all actually here.
architect, you know what you are in for. that's right, authentic ayahuasca sessions in the jungle. take jenny and editor one with you. three friends on a heroic journey, like in LOTR.
sinny needs to go on a long raw juice fast. .
Maybe the whingier members don't realize it, but our mods have a frankly saint-like amount of patience. Moderating is a largely unpleasant task with no reward. It is work; especially when you have petulantchildrenmembers screaming about imagined 'oppression.' Plus, they have no presence of mind to actually be thankful that there are, somehow, people still willing to put up with the bullshit to facilitate the forum community and keep it healthy. for free.
I would watch that movie
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer eh?If only you'd been Bronto's sensei this would have never happened. It's all your fault, as usual. Baka.
You know, you'd be much more funny if you didn't keep stopping to remind everyone that you're actually just trying to be funny and nothing is meant personally.
Own it, man. Just own that shit.
EDIT: more explanation later from youuuu blahblahblah![]()
ooh i get it ...
but where does that place me?
Any thoughts Gopher?
What happens when all the mods leave because they are fed up with our shit? How many are left and what specifically causes them to leave?. I know there are a few on the list but they aren't all actually here.
Don't make me write another INTPf yaoi fanfic darn it!
*Alt-Tab's to wattpad*
Oh no it's happening again!
Well if you do, I'll voice it on one of the 'post your voice' threads.
I think I still have the infamous audio file of kuu going 'yesssssss' in the sleaziest manner possible, that I'll interject where appropriate. Bonus points if somebody says, 'but.... your intpness, it's soooo big.'
sinny needs to go on a long raw juice fast. you should generally ban people until they deliver some proof of having done something effective to detox their rotten brains. blauraun needs to soften his inner ISTJ ego with some mdma. and architect, you know what you are in for. that's right, authentic ayahuasca sessions in the jungle. take jenny and editor one with you. three friends on a heroic journey, like in LOTR. unban da blob, he can take your place as most archetypical senior intp on duty. 12 step program for gopher and TMB.
I'm not one to tell you what you should do. In my eyes this isn't classy and in my opinion is a very jerky move to speak badly of past members who didn't earn their ban to deserve such admonishment.
I know you hated him, he hated you, that's sort of the gist, what's the point of attacking his person is beyond me. Do you seek to convince everyone he's worthless and negative?
I think the point is from Sinny's perspective, Bronto earned a ban a long time ago and didn't get one. I definitely remember it getting quite ugly between the 2 of them. On the other hand maybe Sinny could have been banned too. I didn't pay a lot of specific attention to their schism.
*Jenny and Editor make it to the rendezvous point in the middle of the jungle*
Architect: I've been expecting you.
Jenny: Yeah yeah, the quotes. Lets just get on with it. Which way to the peruvian shaman? I'm dying for a hit. And did anyone bring sun screen?
Architect: You have many questions... and--
Editor: Hooow about we get going. Architect, which way? Left or right?
Architect: There are two paths. The one to the left leads back to the helicopter and your comfy Dark Castle. The one on the right leads to a mosquito infected swampland and to your malaria demise. and the shaman..
spoiler alert: nanook is the shaman
...Most thought I ever gave Bronto and Cherry was when I was wondering if they were cross dressers and/or lovers?![]()
At one point in time, maybe more, there was a somewhat coordinated effort to put into trolling me.
This little run of bans here, all center around me:
http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=525043&postcount=84
http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=525642&postcount=85
http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=527967&postcount=86
Can't say I ever really noticed that in real time. Most thought I ever gave Bronto and Cherry was when I was wondering if they were cross dressers and/or lovers?![]()
This needs to happen.