Being Early.

[VII]

Please tell me my fellow INTP's are you always early, always late?

I am currently 2 hours early for my day of education, I am bored and regretting being early ...........

 

[own8ge]

depends

 

[Etheri]

Always late. Sometimes intentionally. (only early / on time when travelling smooth.)

 

[SpaceYeti]

I'm always early, but I'm also in the military, where if you're not early, you're late. It bothers the shit out of me. If you want me there ten minutes before 0700, just say "0650" instead of expecting me to be early to the time you said.

Still, it depends on how formal the plans are. If it's buddies hanging out for a night, I don't pay much attention to the specific time and show up whenever I'm ready. If it's something official or job related, I make damn sure I'm there before I'm supposed to be.

 

[The Gopher]

Normally always early, you can't rely on everything working.

 

[Solitaire U.]

I have a really bad habit of showing up early for work under the false assumption that starting early = finishing sooner.

This assumption is obviously incorrect 95% of the time. Strange thing is, I rarely take advantage of the fact that I live in a culture that considers 15 - 20 minute late arrival times to be quite normal. End result...I waste a lot of time arriving early and then waiting for my client to arrive the 15 or 20 status-quo minutes late.

I guess what keeps me arriving early is this: If I arrive 20 minutes late, my clients will still expect the class to run a full hour. Having to make up the 20 minutes would screw up my entire schedule. But if I arrive early and my client arrives late, I have a legitimate reason to still end the class at the end of the hour it was supposed to start (Sorry, but I have to run because I have another class starting in xx minutes.).

Habitual tardiness simply isn't in my nature when it comes to work.

 

[Lot]

I'm early most of the time, if not right on time. Even when I think I'm going to be late, I'm early. My parents just drilled into me, that I should leave earlier then needed, because I never know what traffic will be like.

If I do end up late, I call to tell the person that I'm going to be late. Which removes my guilt, and gives me a fairly indefinite time "to be there"

I get really frustrated when I know that a pizza I'm delivering is going to be late, usually because it's out of my control.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Too late...

 

[Oedipus]

I'm almost always late. It drives my father crazy.

 

[kvothe27]

I'm almost always late. I usually end up having to have a "talk" with my boss about it. I'm almost always late to my first class of the day as well. I have a really hard time building momentum at the start of my days.

My parents raised me to arrive on time. My dad told me he'd rather be four hours early than five minutes late. I looked at him like he was crazy. I still think that's crazy. I'd much rather be a half hour late than arrive even an hour early. Every attempt I've made to arrive consistently on time has ended in failure. Even adderall was no help in this regard . . .

I fail to see the point in being on time, most of the time. It's not like I'll be more productive simply for being on time. Sure, I can look like I'm being productive, but my best work is produced at various times throughout the day. Expecting me to be productive for eight hours straight is insane. My mind simply doesn't work that way, no matter how much training it receives.

I took a class that had a reputation for being difficult. Naturally I arrived 40 minutes late to it every time it was held. I still had an A in the class. I remember a peer being perplexed at my outscoring him, despite my apparent lack of concern and consistent tardiness. The point of this is that I do not need to arrive on time to be successful. What usually prevents my being successful are J policies that are detrimental to me.

 

[Affinity]

Always late.

 

[Etheri]

I took a class that had a reputation for being difficult. Naturally I arrived 40 minutes late to it every time it was held. I still had an A in the class. I remember a peer being perplexed at my outscoring him, despite my apparent lack of concern and consistent tardiness. The point of this is that I do not need to arrive on time to be successful. What usually prevents my being successful are J policies that are detrimental to me.

I can relate to this very easily.
What's more, if i'm late in class, I typically sit alone. No distractions, no questions about my weekend (as if i'd have anything interesting to tell them...), you either pay attention or sink in thought, both of which I enjoy. Honestly, sometimes i'm intentionally late in class sole for the purpose of sitting all by myself without anyone raising questions or coming to join me. I only rarely get screwed over by people who come even later, or by the prof kicking me back out.

 

[Minuend]

I avoid such things by making appointments intentionally vague.

Like, see you around 5-ish.

Though, if I have certain agreements, I keep them.

 

[~~~]

Ahhh, but what do you people call late? Like more than ten minutes late? If you are going to be more than ten minutes late do you then wonder why you are bothering and do you still bother?

 

[SpaceYeti]

Do some people consider something besides "showing up or doing something after the appointed time" to be late? How else might someone define it?

 

[Solitaire U.]

I fail to see the point in being on time, most of the time. It's not like I'll be more productive simply for being on time. Sure, I can look like I'm being productive, but my best work is produced at various times throughout the day. Expecting me to be productive for eight hours straight is insane. My mind simply doesn't work that way, no matter how much training it receives.

But being late isn't simply about you. Punctuality isn't merely a formality...it's an obligatory element of efficiency. When you're late to a class it's easy to tell yourself "Oh well, I'm the only one who's affected.". But what message are you sending your teacher? I can almost guarantee you that he/she is going to write you off as a person who doesn't give a shit, doesn't want to be there, and therefore isn't deserving of what they have to offer. What is your logic in self-sabotaging yourself like that?

This is why bosses have so little tolerance for lateness. The message it conveys is "I don't want to be here, I have better things to do, this place isn't worthy of my respect." Your employer is going to write you off as lacking integrity...

...and there is no forward advancement (not to mention paychecks) for people who lack integrity.

 

[nexion]

I'm usually early if an external time constraint is placed upon me. If I make the time constraint myself I'm usually dreadfully late.

 

[pjoa09]

Always too damn early or too damn late.

 

[redbaron]

But being late isn't simply about you. Punctuality isn't merely a formality...it's an obligatory element of efficiency. When you're late to a class it's easy to tell yourself "Oh well, I'm the only one who's affected.". But what message are you sending your teacher? I can almost guarantee you that he/she is going to write you off as a person who doesn't give a shit, doesn't want to be there, and therefore isn't deserving of what they have to offer. What is your logic in self-sabotaging yourself like that?

This is why bosses have so little tolerance for lateness. The message it conveys is "I don't want to be here, I have better things to do, this place isn't worthy of my respect." Your employer is going to write you off as lacking integrity...

...and there is no forward advancement (not to mention paychecks) for people who lack integrity.

I second this. Working shift work, punctuality is paramount. No bigger annoyance than to have someone late, without calling ahead. Or people who are on time, but not ready to start work, same problem if not sometimes worse because they think it's okay - as long as they're in the building on time, they're early, right? No asshole, you're still late because you didn't actually start working at 9.

People who are late are useless in the workplace. School is fine, it doesn't really matter. Being late or not doesn't really make a difference to your actual ability. But when you're getting paid or you're scheduled to work at that time for a reason, no way I'm promoting you if you can't even get your sorry ass to work on time.

Outside of work I don't really care.

 

[kvothe27]

But being late isn't simply about you. Punctuality isn't merely a formality...it's an obligatory element of efficiency. When you're late to a class it's easy to tell yourself "Oh well, I'm the only one who's affected.". But what message are you sending your teacher? I can almost guarantee you that he/she is going to write you off as a person who doesn't give a shit, doesn't want to be there, and therefore isn't deserving of what they have to offer. What is your logic in self-sabotaging yourself like that?

This is why bosses have so little tolerance for lateness. The message it conveys is "I don't want to be here, I have better things to do, this place isn't worthy of my respect." Your employer is going to write you off as lacking integrity...

...and there is no forward advancement (not to mention paychecks) for people who lack integrity.

My professors don't seem to care actually. I have yet to have trouble getting letters of recommendation or permission to use them as references. If I don't appear to give a shit and my grade is high, I would think that would be a sign that the class is too easy for me. Unless the professor is egotistical, I really don't see why he'd care. If they want grad students, then the class being too easy for me is a good sign. Now, if I went to grad school and pulled that shit while teaching some class, then it would be an issue. Then again, I have had professors who were habitually late to class.

Have you been to university recently? Attendance is really only a big deal in business, liberal arts, and social sciences classes where attendance appears to matter to the professors. My math and computer science professors sure don't give a shit. They know what they're teaching is actually difficult and don't need to coerce attendance in order for most people to show up.

In regards to work, it definitely can be a problem and has been a problem. My excuse, justified or not, is diagnosed adhd. If I really cannot get my sorry ass to work on time despite a higher salary and interesting work then I'll definitely have a problem.

 

[SMO]

Very early if it is going to be complicated...I don't know where it is, I am not sure where to park or there will be a large crowd if I don't arrive early, basically if there are many unknowns.

Very late...everything else.

 

[Melkor]

Can't speak for anyone but myself.

But I tend to be somewhere in the range of half an hour to a couple of hours early for everything. It gives me that extra bit of security when I choose any seat (normally the farthest corner) and have time to size up the room.