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Avatar Review

Beat Mango

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Couldn't pay me to see it, Hollywood tripe. I hate the way people line up to see it like sheep just cos it's been hyped up in the media. And then... I'm made to be the weird one because I'm excluded from watercooler small talk and the like regarding how cool the graphics were (who cares) etc.

Ok, rant over. That guy is funny.
 

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I do not understand why so many people are choosing not to see it just because it has been hyped, other people see it, and it is known to have a lame plot. How in the world does that make you any better than the people that choose TO see it because of those above reasons (minus the lame plot..unless you're into that kind of thing)? Seems to me like the media has you as whipped as it has them..

I knew the plot wasn't going to be good - it was self-evident. I also knew that this movie would be unlike any film I've ever experienced. I saw it not because the media loved it or others loved it; I saw it because I wanted the new experience. It was by far some of the most amazing visuals I have ever experienced. To see how far technology has come in bringing such a far-fetched fantasy to life is truly incredible.

While watching I made the Pocahontas connections, and I scoffed at how poor so many components of the film were. At the end however, I wasn't upset about being fooled by the media or my peers, I felt inspired and in awe of technology and the power of fantasy.

You don't have to buy in to the Avatar hype and I would be surprised if you did, because it is obviously over-hyped, but to expect the ordinary out of something so extraordinary is just foolish.
 

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I thought it was okay. I agree with the reviewer- plot was one dimensional with a message that beat you over the head, but with the visuals and the sympathetic characters (though kinda bland) it was still pretty enjoyable. It was okay. Just okay. It could be much worse, it could be Transformers 2.

3D has potential, I think this film used it well. Though if we say this film is Star Wars, I want the next major 3D film to be 2001: A Space Odyssey if you get my meaning.
 

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What's fun about something that becomes too popular is the reaction to it.
 

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There is a thread sort of like this already

I'm actually annoyed at the people who bitch about how the only reason anyone went to see it was because it was overhyped. I pretty much live under a rock... so I discovered this movie when I was doing a search for the 'avatar: the last airbender' movie, saw one preview online, a few in the last week before it came out, and loved it.

Really, it's not like hordes of people are going out to see it just because their brains have been pumped so full of commercials that they don't have a choice. I would have been suspicious if tons of people went out the first weekend, then the numbers quickly died off.... but they didn't; the earnings stayed fairly consistent for a while (I think I read that the 2nd weekend made 3% less money than the first, compared to the usual 30-some% for these types of hyped up blockbuster movies), indicating that people are probably going to see it multiple times, telling their friends about it, etc.
 

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If I assume that all hyped up blockbusters are going to suck, I'm going to be right most of the time. Still, I haven't heard anything convincing yet besides "good graphics". But I'll chuck in a movie recommendation so as not to turn the thread into a whinge fest: Men's Group. It'll be hard to track down though, being a low budget Sydney film.
 

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What's fun about something that becomes too popular is the reaction to it.

I agree.

I bailed on these conversations a month or two ago, and just chew popcorn on the sidelines. Herd dynamics are fun to watch!
 

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@Banana Mango: You need less dogma.
 

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I agree.

I bailed on these conversations a month or two ago, and just chew popcorn on the sidelines. Herd dynamics are fun to watch!

but... but.... but... where's your sense of duty!?

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Zero

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I agree.

I bailed on these conversations a month or two ago, and just chew popcorn on the sidelines. Herd dynamics are fun to watch!


I'm a Twilight Hater (this is one of the few things that all my friends and family know about me), but man, I'm loving the antifan media.

Twilight got so much crap, there's an endless pit of amusement for me there. So I can't be too angry when something ridiculous gets popular.

1. It means there will be follow up entertainment
2. It sets the standards way lower. Just about anyone might as bust out a book based on the voices they hear in their head.
 

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Despite my hate for Twilight, the antifandom I enjoy wouldn't have come around without it.
 

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I agree with Wishing Well. It was an amazing visual and imaginative experience. Does that make me shallow? Why can't we just take it as it is? It seems like with stuff like this people of the masses are rushing to jump on two opposing bandwangons.

The review was insightful and opened my eyes to a lot of things, but he didn't give credit where credit was due. Stickin' it to the man is fun and all but my inner INTP is crying because I didn't hear both sides of the argument. :(

I used to be resistant to Twilight too because of the fangirls, but after reading the books I'm glad I gave it a chance. It was a good read. Nothing more, nothing less. I do think its ironic how the written media is more dynamic and funnier than the stupid movies though.
 

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The two things that bugged me me the most was the predictability of the storyline and the banality of the characters. No one can deny the visual effects were stunning, but if I want visual stimulation I'd rather view photography.

Look at the general, he was a typical jackass general.

-The scar on his face (an instant badass boost.)
-The haircut (why not a mullet?)
-The muscles
-Complete disregard to the environment
-His smell. (just look at him, I'm sure he smelled like fish.)
 

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When I go to the theater I expect to be told a story and that didn't happen with avatar. The two things that bugged me me the most was the predictability of the storyline and the banality of the characters. No one can deny the visual effects were stunning, but if I want visual stimulation I'd rather view photography.

If I want visual stimulation I need only open my eyes.
 

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I enjoyed the film. The story wasn't the focus point of this film. Even James Cameron has admitted this! The main focus for the film was the new technology used in both pre and post production. I personally thought the story worked well for the film and I don't think it's a good enough excuse to slate it merely because the plot was predictable. It's similar to Bladerunner in this effect.

I did find it funny how some people in America were suffering from PAD (Post-Avatar Depression) xD

Shame Mr. Bean wasn't in it.

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Apparently George Lucas is converting all 6 films into 3-D at a cost of $100,000 per second. Lets hope he doesn't modify them (again...).
 

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I absolutely loved the film, I watched it 4 times on my computer... :D
 

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Even after reading what Unobtainium is supposed to do from Avatar Wiki (source is Camerons book), it still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. It's a room temperature super conductor that allows for space travel. He who controls the... unobtainium, controls the universe?

I enjoyed the film. The story wasn't the focus point of this film. Even James Cameron has admitted this! The main focus for the film was the new technology used in both pre and post production. I personally thought the story worked well for the film and I don't think it's a good enough excuse to slate it merely because the plot was predictable. It's similar to Bladerunner in this effect.
How is Bladerunner similar to Avatar...
 

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I didn't like the predictable plot, the visuals were good I guess but I really wasn't into it.
 

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It looked and felt like a remake of Fern Gully. (Which made a deep impression on me as a kid.)

But considering it in view of technology and as an example of what the movie industry can do nowadays, it's a prime example.
 

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I would say I didn't go out of my way to see it. But, I really ended up enjoying it, despite some of the things which seem to be commonly brought to attention.

I got a lot of recycled plot elements out of it, but, in all honesty, if they could be taken as a whole, they form a pretty nifty original plot. If anything, I regret that movies with inferior plots hadn't used similar plot elements. The ends justified the means, in my opinion.

After watching the movie, though, I felt kind of melancholy. I didn't just feel bad for the movie characters, but humanity in its current state, as well. Consider the setup: this wicked awesome fantasy forest planet with cool tribal cat people gets invaded by sky people half their size.

The humans made jackasses of themselves, so they were banished. This left me wondering if the humans, on their way back to earth, would consider an easier way of life, less dominated by gadgets and paperwork, or if they called it a day and went on to bother some other planet.:o

But, the world view of the native cat people was also irreversibly changed. In a sense, all Nietzsche-like, the sky people killed earth god. When the home tree went down, their god didn't seem omnipotent. Even if they beat the sky people this time, how long is it going to be before the sky people bring back more than their god can ward off?:(

Then, I felt bad walking out of the movie theater, along the pavement, towards my gas consumption burden, finishing my soda, realizing that it is highly unlikely that I will see humanity accomplish worth a damn (consider that my standards are not mere feats of practical science) in my life time.

Anyways, I'm glad someone started this thread so I didn't have to. And for anyone who's feeling skeptical about seeing it: put yourself out of your own misery and watch the f***ing movie.:evil:
 

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wow, am i the only one who actually enjoyed the plot? I guess first of all, it deals with the nature of human consciousness, and identity. And I kind of like the whole spiritual vs scientific development thing going on there. Also there was a bit there that reminded me of early human colonization in which religious practices were suppressed. IMHYUCO, the movie was pretty good.
 

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I thought it was pretty good too, but not because of the plot. I suppose 'pretty good' is pretty vague. Lately I've been watching a great deal of films, classics and whatnot, and I guess Avatar just pales in comparison to some of them, but is itself quite alright as a film.
 

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Avatar had the intellectual profundity of rape.
 
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