Attractiveness?

[CoryJames]

I would say that you are far from not fat, friend. If you are 6'2 180 you are VERY thin. I topped out my possible weight at 177 last year and I am only 5'9-5'10

 

[Wish]

receiving compliments feels awkward, and forcing the appropriate response is irritating.

 

[LPolaright]

Many say they don't care but the thread skyrocketed from 0 views to 480 in a day, doesn't any one notice something suspicious in that?

Just sayin'

*yea, yea... Blame it on the interesting comments and points of view *

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Eh, psyc docs look for unkempt appearances as an indication that a person may not be well/may not be coping with their life successfully.

Perhaps I phrased it incorrectly, but I meant both sides of the spectrum. Though, I've never met a '10' of either gender that wasn't completely screwed up mentally.

Not to imply subjective experience counts as evidence of course.

edit:
and to be clear I never said health and hygiene were unimportant.

 

[Agent Intellect]

I would say that you are far from not fat, friend. If you are 6'2 180 you are VERY thin. I topped out my possible weight at 177 last year and I am only 5'9-5'10

I said I used to be fat until I lost a bunch of weight about 5 years ago (I lost almost 100 pounds). Now I'm just left with more skin than is necessary to hold in my viscera. Needless to say, I will never have 6-pack abs.

 

[typus]

I would say that you are far from not fat, friend. If you are 6'2 180 you are VERY thin. I topped out my possible weight at 177 last year and I am only 5'9-5'10

are you sure that that is very thin? dear lord

 

[Methuselah]

are you sure that that is very thin? dear lord

6'2" and 180 isn't that skinny if he doesn't have a lot of muscle. I'm 6'2" too. At 195 he would be considered "overweight" according to BMI. 145 would be "underweight."

 

[gruesomebrat]

I definitely don't consider myself to be attractive. In my opinion, anyone over the height of 6'6 needs to be chopped down to a more human size, and being skinny enough to be the posterboy for anorexia... it just doesn't strike me as being attractive. However, that being said, because I generally wear baggy clothes (with my height and (lack of) weight, baggy is the only thing that fits), I often have people tell me I'm attractive. I'm not too sure why that is. There are days that I wish I could see what these people are seeing though, so that my self-esteem could get a much-needed boost.

BTW, AI, I wish I could get back up to the 180-200 range... I'm currently sporting about 150 lbs on a 6'7 frame... Best I've made it to was 6'6 and 205, just before my metabolism kicked back into overdrive this last time. Lost 50lbs in about 6 months, and haven't been able to put it back on yet. I'm told that eventually my metabolism will slow down enough that I'll be able to put on some weight safely (ie. without gorging 24/7), but frankly, I don't see it happening in the foreseeable future.

 

[CoryJames]

I don't know. I guess I hang around mostly athletes where gaining weight is a good thing and you brag about how much you have for how tall you are.

PS, the BMI should never be taken at face value. I think it is a completely stupid system, as smart as the people who created it probably were. Since the age of 10 I have been in the 50ish percentile range for height and the tip top blue part of the curve wave for weight or mass or whatever. I wouldn't consider myself fat though, would you?

There should be a new system that incorporates body fat and muscle mass as well to determine true healthiness based on dimensions and weight.

 

[Melkor]

We have a picture thread, do we not? Surely all base and shallow comments on the physical desirability of members bold enough to flaunt themselves should be posted there?
I will only say this: I have become attracted to a great many people on this forum without a single picture to judge by, and those infatuations continue long after they have revealed their lack-lustre portraits. I think intellect nearly always trumps beauty in my world, I do wish you'd visit.

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

Somewhat unattractive. No one's ever screamed in terror at the sight of me (although a few women have declined to get on an elevator in which I am the only other passenger) and no one has ever said I'm good looking (except for a mental patient, seriously...she was). I'm big and getting flabby (used to be rather muscular) as I begin my waning years.

Some women have said they wished they had my hair which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's up there with the Lewis Black bit "If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college".

 

[Stoic Beverage]

Somewhat attractive, I suppose. I like my eyes and hair, which are dark blue and strawberry blond (I've always hated that term...) respectively. I wear my hair long, but have a slightly big-ish nose. I get asked out every month or two, but that's if they don't know me. If they do, then they say I make their brains tired, then leave.

 

[Methuselah]

Honestly I find that I really don't care (though unfortunately that was not always the case ). I'd never use physical attractiveness for personal gain on principle, so there's really no use for an excess of it.

As an INTP who had the deck stacked against him in terms of social skills (and most things that didn't require brute force analysis, really), I have to say hell naw. I get that you wouldn't want it to happen on principle, but I felt no need to handicap myself any further. If my jawline/smile/etc. will get me a leg up, then that is badass. In fact, when I was 16/17 I spent a fair amount of time practicing how to make the best smile, since my face normally defaulted to a stony mask of judgment. That paid off just in getting people to listen to my problems and help me with things. It's visual rhetoric, yo.

 

[Dormouse]

Somewhat unattractive. Thankfully I'm awesome in enough other ways to make up for it.

 

[The Gopher]

I think that each person who votes should also post to say what they voted, include a picture, and get HONEST feedback on what others think about them, therefore to give that person a clear indication of how what they feel about themselves is matched by what others feel about them. (Not pick a picture of someone else and say I have been told I look like them, because this seems to be an exercise in the impractical, as that person could have just as easily attached a photo of themselves which would give a perfectly accurate representation of their appearance as opposed to a hearsay, somewhat accurate one)

I would not have made this suggestion had it not been for the fact that people were posting pictures of others and saying how they'd been told they resemble that person. It just seems silly to do that, when they could have simply posted a picture of themselves.

This is all about me right? Now apart from the fact I don't have a picture of me on this computer. Due to the other one acting like a lion (23hours rest a day) it's the best I can do besides hmm why wouldn't I want a picture of me on the Internet I mean I am not at all bothered with people linking me to this account am I.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

Somewhat unattractive.

I call shenanigans on this.

 

[CoryJames]

Yes, maninchair, it is all about you. It is because I want to see your tits.

 

[The Gopher]

Yes, maninchair, it is all about you. It is because I want to see your tits.

WHY do you people insist in calling me maninchair The Gopher is shorter and uhh you do know I am male right?

 

[CoryJames]

I want to see your hairy mantits, maninchair

 

[Linsejko]

WHY do you people insist in calling me maninchair The Gopher is shorter and uhh you do know I am male right?

Actually, if you include the space, The Gopher = maninchair; also, the caps add a little more effort.

What's more, I actually laughed out loud for at least 10 seconds at reading this comment. Cory's was good, but that.... That was excellent.

The results so far are interesting... I wonder if I can find some random poll data to compare this to. I will also take at least one (probably two) unattractive results and count them as "somewhat attractive" based on the model who voted unattractive. The picture would be the best method, but that's a bit too vulnerable, alas.

And yes, this thread is exclusively about physical attractiveness... but, now that I think about it... That's worth another thread.

.L

 

[Firehazard159]

Oh yes, let's tell people how ugly they are, we didn't get enough of that in our teens.

Anyway, looks alone isn't enough to determine attractiveness.

In the 'Vicious photo thread' or whatever it's now dubbed, most of the posters (if not all, actually - I haven't been there in a while XD) are attractive rather than not. Same with the youtube video thread.

 

[kantor1003]

This poll seems pretty evenly balanced.
I haven't voted, but would say that I'm around average, perhaps slightly over. Obviously my perception depends largely on the people I'm with.. if I'm around a bunch of Cory's I'm butt ugly. If I'm around below average dudes I see myself as good looking.
Haven't received too much input regarding my looks from girls, but the ones I do get it from is obviously biased (luckily biased in a very good way) just from the fact of they knowing me, hearing me speak, observing my body language etc. Not to talk about all the girls that can find me ugly but refrain from saying anything. So I wouldn't say that the positive affirmation count at all. Here, I think, one would get a more unbiased response depending on how much online history they have with the person (btw, I don't want any feedback.. at all. Also, my avatar here is somewhat betraying I think).

I'm not too happy with the way I look overall I think, but I wouldn't say I spend that much time thinking about it. I won't let it affect my confidence (the times it does, I won't let it show through the way I handle myself). Things I'd change; gain some more weight, having less body hair (this sometimes really bothers me), gain some color, having a hint of muscle, and perhaps save up some facial hair again.

I don't like thinking about my looks. Oh, and whats more fun than exposing ones insecurities to a public forum with your stupid face attached to the post??

 

[CoryJames]

When will somebody recognize me for my intelligence and humour and not my face?

 

[kantor1003]

A lot of competition in those arenas on this forum I think.

 

[EvilScientist Trainee]

When will somebody recognize me for my intelligence and humour and not my face?

Gotta say that after you changed your avatar, you somewhat got more respect from me.

Not that you weren't respected before, but your appearance indeed made it difficult. I mean, "that Abercrombie guy is an INTP?(Have I spelled it right?)". I know it's wrong of my part to think of it that way, but that's just the way I used to feel.

When you had put your looks aside in this forum, I could see you had some great ideas there.

There's something with the book cover that makes reading the book a secondary task. Therefore, judging a book for its cover tends to happen for me sometimes.
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I'm a somewhat attractive guy. My problem is that I won't go too much out of my way to look attractive. I'm clean and dress OK, but I don't spend much time doing maintenance tasks that I should have been doing, specially working out. Perhaps this is a P-thing.

It's worthy for me to add that attractiveness also comes from personality. A given charismatic person will attract more people than a person with the same looks but who lacks charisma. And I usually fall a bit short on the charisma part, even though i'm a nice guy.

 

[The Gopher]

When will somebody recognize me for my intelligence and humour and not my face?

Bahahahah ohh sorry thought you where being sarcastic... but wait if I did then.... I must have thought you were funny thus cancelling the sarcasm. But if you weren't being sarcastic.... then it wasn't funny.

 

[CoryJames]

What a paradox.

 

[warryer]

I vote for above average. Just like most I have my ups and downs. I have gotten compliments on my eyes (deep blues baby). Every now and then I'll catch a girl giving me the look. I like to think I look well enough that I can "buy enough time" to show my true strengths.

I have a baby face so I look 17-18 when I am 23 . When I first started college I looked like I should have been starting high school.

I don't take care of myself as well as I could. I don't concern myself with my looks all that much but, in fleeting moments, I think I could do better. Gain some more weight/muscle mostly. Currently sitting at 145-150 5'11.

Then there are times where it strikes me as absurd at how much stock we take into looks.

 

[Guy]

Beauty is a reflection of popular culture and popular culture is a reflection of subjective human ideals of "power and efficiency".

What do you think a person in 500 yrs will be considered "beautiful" look like, keep in mind technologies?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Beauty is a reflection of popular culture and popular culture is a reflection of subjective human ideals of "power and efficiency".

That's attractiveness. Beauty has consistently been rated by health and grace. It's tied to natural aesthetics.

 

[CoryJames]

Beauty in reference to human is tied to the physical body. A beautiful person now would be a beautiful then.

 

[Anchorite]

I'd say I'm average to slightly above average. I'm short, 5'4. And skinny, 110 lbs. I have medium length brown hair which apparently is messy, and I'm typically clean shaven. I have soft features and I'll be 18 in roughly 2 months.
I wouldn't mind putting a picture up for some brutal honesty, but I don't even own a digital camera at the moment.

 

[shoeless]

it's my personal belief that anybody who does not have any significant deformity has the ability to be attractive; it's just a matter of how hard you try.

in myself, i have noticed a correlation between my level of sociability and my attractiveness. once upon a time, i would have considered myself quite fugly, and i pretty much was; i rejected form-fitting clothes and any semblance of "style" with regard to hair and make-up, and overall, i was not an attractive person. i was also less sociable -- those were the days when i MBTI tested as an INTP (close to 100% introvert, but really i was just awkward). as i've developed my social skills, i've also noticed that i pay much more attention to appearance, and receive positive social feedback for doing so (whether it's outright commentary -- you're hot! -- or a more subtle gravitation towards me). i would still rate myself as "somewhat attractive", maybe a 6 or 7 now, and i'm okay with where i am on that spectrum.

either way, i don't think it's bad to try to be attractive. vanity is a part of the human condition. as far as i'm concerned, just do what you need to do to be comfortable with yourself and others. that's all.

 

[echoplex]

(assuming attractiveness is defined externally only)

Well, I've been complimented before on the following: my blue eyes, my height (6'4''), my thick wavy red/brown hair, the fact that I'm not a total slob...except for sometimes.

I've been called out for the following: pale skin, skinny, boring clothes, sometimes unkempt hair (I wash it but don't normally style/brush it), looking bored/angry/like a serial killer, having that goddamn smirk on my face.

I honestly don't know, objectively, what I would be considered, as I don't seek nor get alot of feedback on the subject. Personally, I like the way I look for the most part. I know that if I make an effort to present myself, some people will find me attractive to varying degrees, but I also think there are times when I look like a monster, which is awesome imo, but probably a huge turnoff.

The problem here is that you're asked to assess something that can only come from others' opinions. But then, most other people keep opinions to themselves, esp. the negative ones, because they don't want to hurt your feelings. So, ultimately, you base it off comparison, your own/society's idea of beauty, intuition, etc. Owning a mirror really helps.

My verdict is somewhat attractive. Nice middle ground here. Enough optimism to make you feel beautiful-ish but not as boastful as those 'attractive' bastards that dare flaunt their sexy bodies all over this thread. I prefer the (false?) modesty of somewhat-dom, tyvm.

And don't think for a minute I believe any of you who say you're ugly.

 

[Guy]

How much of beauty is actually rooted in genetics rather then what we learn from popular media (in reference to the human body).

Ethnicity evolves from natural occurring elegance within an environment so how can we say a perfect face and body today is what is sought after many years from now. I see today's beauty more relevant then past beautify for example: people preferred larger women due to harsher environments in early America over today's thinner frame. Look more in depth such as skin color and hair color what will be popular i want to hear a different imaginative projection?

i see a neutral look between a mix in races with obvious primitive features

 

[Puffy]

Somewhat attractive, though tbh I don't get many comments on my appearance so that might just be vanity.

 

[Bird]

I would say that you are far from not fat, friend. If you are 6'2 180 you are VERY thin. I topped out my possible weight at 177 last year and I am only 5'9-5'10

A healthy body weight for a man of 6'2 with a medium
build is anywhere from 171 pounds to 209 pounds.

 

[CoryJames]

Despite my earlier post, I do think "beauty", or at least the term itself, has become distorted over the years. Popular mass media has given people, especially men, an idea of "sexiness" that we in some ways falsely associate with beauty. Although I do find Megan Fox gorgeous, and I think she has a lot of beauty in her own ways, I also can find beauty in many whom others would not find all that physically appealing, and it comes from some deeper, more basic understanding of the word.


Also, many of you may appreciate this-Darwinian Theory of Beauty

 

[Methuselah]

The Megan Fox type body ideal is just part of the Madonna/whore thing. No one wants to wife her. Most men like her because she looks easy and sends off easy vibes. When they look for wife material, they go for something else entirely.

Things are more complex than "the media ruined everything."

 

[indigofireflies]

Somewhat attractive. I am 5'3" and roughly 135 lb -- it's been fluctuating recently since I began my Army JROTC class. I have curly brown hair that I like. My face is roundish. Looking at what other people have said, it would be logical to conclude I am attractive to some degree.

 

[CoryJames]

I don't believe they ruined EVERYTHING...just most of it. Freedom of press is hugely important, but it comes at a price. Allowing news to become a commodity has led journalists and reporters from conveying objective, factual news in a plain and straightforward way to employing shock value and reporting on certain things that fit certain agendas. It also effects other aspects of media, but I am too lazy to discuss those right now.

 

[Lostwitheal]

Despite my earlier post, I do think "beauty", or at least the term itself, has become distorted over the years.

YouTube - Dan Le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip - Tommy C

Yup.

 

[dark]

Hum... As an ENTP can I vote? I have been told by both females and males that I was attractive... not sure why males would say so... I am also not sure if they meant physical appearance since I think I do look goofy looking, a lot of extroverted females approach me quite often, but they usually go away scared .

 

[CoryJames]

As an ENTP you can move right along and clear on out of here.

We don't need your extroverted enthusiastic approach towards life staining our monochromatic grey color schemes and very "Equilibrium"-esque lifestyle.

And yes, (since I hear you wondering to yourself), your enthusiasm and outspokenness has the ability to STAIN. How disgusting. I wash my hands of you.

 

[JarNew]

I'm morbidly obese, pimples cover my face from a lack of sunlight, my feet are twisted into quite unusual positions which give the appearance that I have hooves.

Yet, I have no problem getting a female when I desire one.

Somewhat attractive

But yea, as puffy said... vanity.

 

[Awaken]

I would say above average. As a teenager it always surprised me how many of my female friends would out of the blue tell me that they liked me. I was of course oblivious to this fact as I did not care much. Now, as an adult, I use my looks to fulfill my bodily needs and do not have much trouble doing so. Im pretty sure being attractive has taught me to be social despite being an INTP. The best of both worlds.

 

[speiss]

I have a very outright imperfection, one of my very front teeth still a baby tooth, and for the last nine years I believe it's hindered my score on the attractive scale a little. I'm probably just vain, but I do like looking at myself in the mirror, and I do find myself somewhat attractive. My friend, knowing the extent of how low my self esteem can and should go due to my tooth and other things, tells me I'm attractive, but I can't help but roll my eyes as an instinctive reaction. People tell me all the time I have really nice eyes, one girl refusing to believe I.. don't wear colored contacts (they're just green...) I'm of average weight, but since I don't really own clothing that fits very well I'm very self-conscious unless I'm wearing the biggest sweater I own.

 

[speiss]

Namely, a poor physique, dark circles beneath my eyes, pale skin, normally quite messy hair, a general lack of style or attention to personal detail, and the most unlucky proportions of androgyny know to man which just make me look silly overall.

I read this, and I was like oh, that's so attractive, I love guys who look like that. And then I glanced at the name and I was like "Oh. It's him." I TELL HIM HE LOOKS GOOD ALL THE TIME.

He never believes me. I've stopped trying.

 

[CoryJames]

Yo Melkor. You hot kid.

(He will believe me. My opinion is highly valued. Specifically today, as I have been so full of great posts)

 

[gephura]

I voted somewhat unattractive. If you desire to see my face, visit my profile page.
I think my face is OK, but my body is not. Simple truth. And although I will get comments that I should think further than that and should be past this kind of stuff, I do feel that it stops many people feeling something for me.

For the most part, this is a good thing. It stops vain and boring people trying just because of looks. It's only bad when a good guy comes along and can't look past it.