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Astrological Signs for INTPs

Your sign?

  • Aries, March 21 - April 19

    Votes: 25 6.7%
  • Taurus, April 20 - May 20

    Votes: 31 8.3%
  • Gemini, May 21 - June 20

    Votes: 31 8.3%
  • Cancer, June 21 - July 22

    Votes: 47 12.6%
  • Leo, July 23 - August 22

    Votes: 28 7.5%
  • Virgo, August 23 - September 22

    Votes: 39 10.5%
  • Libra, September 23 - October 22

    Votes: 33 8.8%
  • Scorpio, October 23 - November 21

    Votes: 29 7.8%
  • Sagittarius, November 22 - December 21

    Votes: 28 7.5%
  • Capricorn, December 22 - January 19

    Votes: 26 7.0%
  • Aquarius, January 20 - February 18

    Votes: 37 9.9%
  • Pisces, February 19 - March 20

    Votes: 19 5.1%

  • Total voters
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Please refrain from voting if you are not INTP. Posting is fine, but the poll is for INTPs only.

What is your astrological sign and, regardless of how incredibly stupid you may think astrology is (I am certainly one of them), do you see any relation in the description of your sign to your INTPness?

Some people seem to think of astrology as the mystic MBTI (or vice versa, hah). I was shocked at how similar a conversation was when referring to one of 16 different "types" of people to a conversation about only 12. Though MBTI is based on research, and not stars. Wow... Please make this conversation more interesting than I am when it's 3 minutes past when I'm supposed to leave work... lawl. Okay. Aaand they're off!

EDIT: I do. I'll elaborate on that later, however, I feel it entirely coincidental, albeit uncanny.
 
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I see no correlation and I imagine the vote will bear that out.
 
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Our DoB decides which MBTI type we are!
 

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Have you read the thread on astrology Eloquent Bohemian started? He was an astrologist.
 

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Our DoB decides which MBTI type we are!

Hmmm... I would doubt that my being born in November is what made me an INTP... Were you making fun of me? lol

Have you read the thread on astrology Eloquent Bohemian started? He was an astrologist.

I haven't! Care to link me? I feel sheepish for having started another thread on this, but do forgive me. It's difficult to sprawl this forum without losing your train of thought. I could not find it by way of search field.

My apologies, everyone who participated. And thank you!
 
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Hmmm... I would doubt that my being born in November is what made me an INTP... Were you making fun of me? lol!
No, I'm entirely serious. Every INTP was born in November.
 

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Not me, I'm a Taurus

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Really? And how did you manage to load the AI? :D



@Cobra:

Thread's called "WEIRD", and it's in the INTP subforum.

Here's the link. It was tricky because of the title. Plus it wasn't started by Bohé.
 
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I'm not sure how to answer, because there are actually (at least) two different zodiac-type astrologies. One of them (the popular, conventional one) has me as a Capricorn, while the other (which many swear is the "real" one) would have me as a Sagittarius.

So, I can be a half goat, half fish, or I can be a half archer, half horse. hmmm...

I'll answer Cap only 'cause I imagine that's the school of astrology everyone else will answer by.
 

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That's Fac for you, Cobra. But s/he's actually nice to have around, as long as you read hir posts with a grain of humour and some cynicism.
 

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Hmm. I'm neither convinced nor impressed. And it's led the thread astray. I hold a grain of humour and cynicism to the posts of people I'm familiar with. I hold no obligation to those with whom I'm not. Sorry, Face. You're a close talker.
 
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My initial remarks contained serious critique of this notion. The true content is simply behind a facade of humour.
 

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Lemme help get the thread back on track:

I'm a Gemini. I'm not extraverted, as the stereotype goes. But yes, I'm intellectually inclined and more detached than most.

Beyond the sun sign, my AC and my moon are also in Gemini. A handful of my planets is -oh noes!- in the 12th house, so that would account for the intravertedness and the occasional depression.

Do I believe in it? Well, for me it's not a matter of belief, it's a matter that warrants research. I still haven't decided on its reliability.
 

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I'm an Aries on the cusp of Taurus. And I am unsure as to how well that actually describes me. When EB brought up astrology a while ago I found my chart to be accurate in some places and inaccurate in others.
 

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My initial remarks contained serious critique of this notion. The true content is simply behind a facade of humour.

:p Hilarious!

Lemme help get the thread back on track:

Thanks!

Here's parts from this load that applied to me (and a pretty broad spectrum of INTPs, too, interestingly enough):

"Symbols for Scorpio are...and the eagle, a far-seeing predator soaring above petty problems into the spiritual sky...seem to be filled with inherent contradiction...sway their audiences as they choose...the searchers...have an insatiable desire for knowledge on every level...dangerous situations and in sudden crises...remain cool...determined...drive themselves hard...drive others unmercifully...despise weakness in themselves or...others...worst fault is...too adaptable to...people...lead double lives one for the eyes of the world and another for themselves...In business...politics...have clever ideas...best as advisers...habit to 'put off things until tomorrow'...excel in settling other people's quarrels...personal magnetism...no other class of people makes more friends or...enemies...sex quality plays a vital part...interested in marriage and...commitment...love is an intensely passionate and enduring emotion that may be directed at one person only...rarely display their true feelings even at the most open and communicative moments...may not intentionally set out to be mysterious...manage to appear enigmatic anyway...hate being crossed or manipulated...can react...with sarcasm and vengefulness...writers, painters or poets...natural philosophers, deep students of Nature, and observe and analyze other persons' characters better than any other class..."

I identify with the lesser of the cool symbols better. The eagle's kind of got it figured out by their description, though I doubt having been endangered (bald eagle) was as carefree an adventure as flying high in the sky is made out to sound. I do seek truth in selective battles. I have a general distaste for weaknesses. I tend not to exploit them to level the battlefield. I lead many lives none too extreme, but as a chameleon-like INTP, I tend to have different masks for different people. Not to be a jerk or hide something. Just to have fun, get to know others, and get along. I'm a procrastinator, and sex is very important to me. Maybe I'll get laid tomorrow. Love happens with one person. I do not intend to be mysterious, but my wife thinks that I am. I do not like being unnecessarily toyed with when I'm being serious or inquisitive, and can lash out when that happens. I tend to dislike humor at my expense, but sometimes do it to others myself. I love nature and philosophy, and I love to write and sketch. I consider myself to be a good judge of character (this causes me to be presumptuous and sometimes judgmental, but internally... I might even defend someone who I personally don't like, if they are being attacked for the wrong reasons or by someone whose defenses should not [imo] warrant their opinions as stated... I hold my opinions about someone until I am directly affected by the situation... although, as somewhat of a nihilist, I can change my mind about someone based off of candid observation rather easily... I am not afraid to prove myself incorrect...)

But there was a large bit of this in between those elipses that didn't apply to me personally as an INTP. I'm aware that these traits might apply to some INTPs (or some might even apply to the majority of them):

"...come into its full power...October 28th...this date onwards it is in full strength until November '20th and...for seven days gradually losing its strength on account of becoming overlapped by the "cusp" of the incoming sign - Sagittarius...Symbols for Scorpio are the scorpion, a ground-dwelling killer with a poisonous sting in its tail...inherent contradiction...seem to make this period their chosen battlefield...Up to nearly twenty years of age...usually extremely pore-minded, virtuous, and religious, but once their nature is roused they are often found to swing in the opposite direction...have great magnetic power...appeal to the emotions and sentiments of their public more than to logic...these people want the edge on everybody else...Relationships are a kind of mystery for them...should, above all, be encouraged to have ambition, for it is the one thing that will save them; for it they [will] make any sacrifice or deny themselves any pleasure, and so accomplish more work than any other class...they need to dominate relationships...the men are inclined to be dogmatic...expect to rule...influence over women is so great that they are almost always forgiven...Sooner or later, they generally become interested in occult matters, they readily develop unusual clairvoyant powers, and quite often gain fame and distinction...have, or make, two sources of income...sooner or later success and fame nearly always find them..."

So other people's upcoming birthdays make me lose strength? Nuh-uh. I'm generally lethargic around my birthday anyway because most people forget it, including my brothers and my father. Lovin' it. Although I'd love to (proof of that, perhaps, lies in my handle), I am not representative of a "ground-dwelling killer with a poisonous sting in its tail." Never been religious, I've never wanted "the edge on everybody else," relationships are not mysteries to me, I do not expect to rule (nor am I always forgiven, hah), and, although occult does fascinate me from time to time, I wouldn't say it "matters." It's fantasy, really, but clairvoyance has never been a part of that fantasy. That actually intensely aggravates me. I hate the concept of clairvoyance. I'm not famous (wonder why), nor do I have more than one source of income (I wish).
 

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I was thinking about this very thing a few nights ago, I am a Cancer and I'd imagined that there were probably a high concentration of INTP's that were Cancers. I'm actually on the cusp of Gemini and Cancer.
 

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So the crustaceans are in the lead.
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Interesting how high Capricorn is, considering the usual description for Capricorn goes some thing like:

(From some website when I googled "capricorn") "Capricorn is one of the most stable and (mostly) serious of the zodiacal types. These independent, rocklike characters have many sterling qualities. They are normally confident, strong willed and calm. These hardworking, unemotional, shrewd, practical, responsible, persevering, and cautious to the extreme persons, are capable of persisting for as long as is necessary to accomplish a goal they have set for themselves. They are reliable workers in almost any profession they undertake. They are the major finishers of most projects started by the 'pioneering' signs; with firm stick-to-it-ness they quickly become the backbone of any company they work for."

I lol'd at "They are the major finishers of most projects started"...... oh geez this is so far from true....
 

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Hah. Well, most of that sounded eerily true of the "ideal" INTP. It's like what an INTP would probably be if left undisturbed in a room full of all their favorite things for a score of years, or something. But no one would ever be able to tell because a real INTP would have figured out a way to baracade the door permanently.
 

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Interesting how high Capricorn is, considering the usual description for Capricorn goes some thing like:

(From some website when I googled "capricorn") "Capricorn is one of the most stable and (mostly) serious of the zodiacal types. These independent, rocklike characters have many sterling qualities. They are normally confident, strong willed and calm. These hardworking, unemotional, shrewd, practical, responsible, persevering, and cautious to the extreme persons, are capable of persisting for as long as is necessary to accomplish a goal they have set for themselves. They are reliable workers in almost any profession they undertake. They are the major finishers of most projects started by the 'pioneering' signs; with firm stick-to-it-ness they quickly become the backbone of any company they work for."

I lol'd at "They are the major finishers of most projects started"...... oh geez this is so far from true....

I agree with you. It seems a huge J. Maybe it correlates better to INTJ ("They are the major finishers of most projects started by the 'pioneering' signs").

I'm a taurus and never seen how the description of a taurus would fit. That seemed a bad mirror-joke. Recently I had took a test on facebook and I got 1 in 5 taurus' traits.
 

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I think Sagittarius might describe INTPs better than Capricorn. There's another interpretation of Astrology that would actually have most Caps as Sags instead, because the dates for each sign are different from conventional astrology. So perhaps all these people who voted Cap (including me) are really Sag?

Description of Sagittarius:
Sagittarius, the ninth Sign of the Zodiac, is the home of the wanderers of the Zodiac. It's not a mindless ramble for these folks, either. Sagittarians are truth-seekers, and the best way for them to do this is to hit the road, talk to others and get some answers. Knowledge is key to these folks, since it fuels their broad-minded approach to life. The Sagittarian-born are keenly interested in philosophy and religion, and they find that these disciplines aid their internal quest. At the end of the day, what Sagittarians want most is to know the meaning of life, and if they accomplish this while feeling free and easy, all the better.

It's the Archer which represents Sagittarians, although in this case it's a Centaur (half man, half beast) which is flinging the arrows. Centaurs were the intellectuals of ancient Roman mythology, and Sagittarians are quick to consider themselves their modern-day counterparts. Those born under this Sign are clear thinkers and choose to look at the big picture most of the time. They also like it when others agree with their well-thought-out point of view. The alternative to this, for better or for worse, is a Sag who can become argumentative and blunt. That's not to say that these folks are intransigent -- Archers will listen to what others have to say, in keeping with the Mutable Quality assigned to this Sign. Indeed, Sagittarians are enthusiastic consumers of information (and enthusiastic in general), the better to get the answers they need. It's also a good idea to give Sags lots of room to explore their world. Once these folks start to feel hemmed in, they'll become impatient and difficult.
This might fit ENTP better than INTP though, but it's still close I think...
 
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Unfortunate that astrology is bs. Loose correlations between sweeping 'catch all' descriptions of the signs compared with typology descriptions hardly convince me otherwise.


edit: Gemini for me
 
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How did we suddenly know the characteristics to associate with each pattern of the stars? Did they record observed behaviour of people with each sign and ascertain norms? This seems unlikely when there are many contradicting descriptions of each sign, but perhaps there was a true, original one of each type from authentic research. This is all improbable to me, though.

Frankly, it seems that people pay writers to produce generalized statements which the reader may relate to through mere chance. Horoscopes certainly attract people's attention in magazine.
 

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How it started out was boredom and creativity, perhaps. As society developed and recreation became more of a necessity for the appeasement of the boredom of humans, there were bound to be some creative interpretations of the environment. As humans are primarily selfish creatures, they would want to feel as though their pressence was connected to things larger than themselves.

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How it started out was boredom and creativity, perhaps. As society developed and recreation became more of a necessity for the appeasement of the boredom of humans, there were bound to be some creative interpretations of the environment. As humans are primarily selfish creatures, they would want to feel as though their pressence was connected to things larger than themselves.

(may continue soon)

People's interpretations of the environment are very diverse. It is not surprising that there is the concept of horoscopes. The intent of my post was to express an interest in the logical validity of it.
 

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People's interpretations of the environment are very diverse. It is not surprising that there is the concept of horoscopes. The intent of my post was to express an interest in the logical validity of it.


Yes, I saw that. My response was not so much to you as a possibility entertained in the development of the practice of horoscopes, which, could, of course, be incorrect.
 

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The Archer is mine. I rather like it :)
 

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I would have thought so too, but look at all of us cancers! (Myself included.)

Yeah me too (cancer).

Even scarier I went on that site which was mentioned by proxy in this thread (sorry can't remember exactly which) and did my and my two daughters' charts and they were horribly accurate. I have one very introvert and one very extrovert so there was less room for fudging.

I used to be very into astrology but after living with my very J ex-husband I got infected with his near fascist empiricism. I'm still very cynical but more prepared to be open to mystery these days.
 

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Yeah me too (cancer).

Even scarier I went on that site which was mentioned by proxy in this thread (sorry can't remember exactly which) and did my and my two daughters' charts and they were horribly accurate. I have one very introvert and one very extrovert so there was less room for fudging.

I used to be very into astrology but after living with my very J ex-husband I got infected with his near fascist empiricism. I'm still very cynical but more prepared to be open to mystery these days.

I don't have anything against it, it just doesn't do anything for me. Kind of like faith in God/spirituality. God may exist, he may not. Life after death might be, it might not. Astrology might be right on, it might not. Eh.
 

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i'm a cancer too. astrology must be real.
 
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i must say Taurus fit me rather well......probably just mind trickery however
 

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I think Sagittarius might describe INTPs better than Capricorn. There's another interpretation of Astrology that would actually have most Caps as Sags instead, because the dates for each sign are different from conventional astrology. So perhaps all these people who voted Cap (including me) are really Sag?

Description of Sagittarius:
This might fit ENTP better than INTP though, but it's still close I think...

That description for Sag fits me quite well. I'm a Cap myself. Do you know what the dates are for the other interpretation?
 

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Though I don't believe in Astrology (In my opinion, it's more of an art than a science), There is one characteristic of my Astrological Sign (Taurus) that matches with the INTP description, and that is my tendency to get stuck in ruts.
 

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That description for Sag fits me quite well. I'm a Cap myself. Do you know what the dates are for the other interpretation?
I tried to paste the chart but it came out wrong.

This link has the dates and an explanation for the difference.

According to it, Sag is Dec 18-Jan 18 and Cap is Jan 19-Feb 15. What's also interesting is that in this system, all the signs have different lengths of days, and there is a 13th sign apparently.
 

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Now excuse me I have to go scoop my eyes out.
 

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Sun in Cancer
Moon in Aquarius
Scorpio Rising
Year of the Snake (Chinese) also indicates my god type which is
Dark God/Seducer
Year of the Horse (Zoroastrian)
Oak/Fig (Celtic)

Those are my main signs.
 

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Well, echoplex, that chart has me as a Sagittarius (Dec 29). Pretty cool.
 

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I think Sagittarius might describe INTPs better than Capricorn. There's another interpretation of Astrology that would actually have most Caps as Sags instead, because the dates for each sign are different from conventional astrology. So perhaps all these people who voted Cap (including me) are really Sag?

Description of Sagittarius:
This might fit ENTP better than INTP though, but it's still close I think...

Sagittarius=ENTP. Not saying all are Sagittarians are ENTP, as a person's chart includes a mixture of different signs, but in general if I had to associate a sign with ENTP, it'd be Sagittarius. The sign is a fire sign, means in general, got a lot of energy and outgoing. Its also a mutable sign, very talkative. In fact, all mutable signs seem to not know when to shut up. Very talkative combined with outgoing makes me definitely think Extrovert for them. Let me put it this way, Sagittarians are the party-goers or swingers of the zodiac.
 

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