are you a thrill seeker?

[dwags222]

i am wondering if intps are more likely to be thrill seekers?

i am definitely a thrill seeker, i love doing cray stuff and i love taking risks (more physical risks than anything, i.e. jumping off cliffs, speeding cars/motorcycles/snowmobiles, weaving in and out of traffic on bicycles, etc.) some would probably describe me as foolhardy.

are intps more likely to be thrill seekers?

i think thrill seeking is probably some sort of escape mechanism, a way of connecting with the physical world in a visceral way which is uncommon for intp's.

 

[inquiringF]

It's ordinary for a person of the ISTP, ESFP, ESTP type to experience gaieties from ominous stunts, owing to their dominant or auxiliary extroverted sensing that causes one to derive enthrallment from external sensations. The process ascribes dictatorial feelings as a primacy that's prerequisite.

 

[paradoxfromthebay]

No. I would enjoy doing those things after the fact, as they would broaden my understanding of the universe, but I think INTP's get their main thrill intellectually. Like for example, analyzing the physiological and psychological values of extreme sports and the sociology of those who do them.

 

[dwags222]

It's ordinary for a person of the ISTP, ESFP, ESTP type to experience gaieties from ominous stunts, owing to their dominant or auxiliary extroverted sensing that causes one to derive enthrallment from external sensations. The process ascribes dictatorial feelings as a primacy that's prerequisite.

ok, even though i understand this post perfectly fine, am i the only intp who finds such choice of wording completely obnoxious??

 

[inquiringF]

ok, even though i understand this post perfectly fine, am i the only intp who finds such choice of wording completely obnoxious??

Am I to be arbitrated censurable for being predisposed to exercise my terminology in this conduct?

 

[paradoxfromthebay]

I find it obnoxious as well. However I'm not one to judge, as I've been accused in the past of using pretentiously large words myself.. =)

 

[cheese]

I think we should leave inquiringF alone. He'd be utterly destroyed in the outside world and this is supposed to be a haven for INTP misfits. At least give him one place to let it fly! He hasn't said anything arrogant so far (that I've read) so I personally don't see the need to pick on his wording. He might loosen up after a while anyway.

 

[inquiringF]

Your extrication is immensely appreciated, Cheese. Their chastisements were without prosaic reasons, thus repudiating them to my thinking.

 

[cheese]

No worries! I'm enjoying you so far.

 

[inquiringF]

You are correct that people vex me about my vocabulary utilization. It seems my elaborate sentences perplexes them.

 

[cheese]

Not surprising. Some man once lambasted me for using the word 'exuberant'. "I had to look it up in a dictionary," he cried in distress. No doubt he's an exceptional example, but most people really aren't that into words. If it causes social problems it might help to tone it down, but feel free here.

Where're you from?

 

[inquiringF]

I reside in the nation of England. I am not amply enraptured in lexicon, however the field is captivating to many.

 

[cheese]

And uninteresting to many more, unless it serves some practical purpose.

I've always wanted to go to England!

(I think we might be derailing the thread here, so if you wish to continue please PM.)

 

[inquiringF]

Is proceeding to communicate with private messages requisite? The moderators should not be jarred at this.

 

[cheese]

We don't have to PM, but we shouldn't continue the off-topic topic here.

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Sorry dwags.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

I've always wanted to go to England!

WHAT?! WHY?!

just, just don't. trust me, i live there.

why oh why would you want to go to England. the empire has been dead for centuries and Gordon Brown is a bastard.

just.........DON'T

 

[inquiringF]

I vacillate at the question: "Will they suspend us for inadvertently commencing a extemporaneous confabulation?"

 

[cheese]

^Someone here got banned so PMs would be better - you seem interesting so be careful!

Soth:
I wish to seduce the homeless there; they seem like easy lays.

Also - roots, the british accents, the terrible weather, the stiff upper lips (and various other parts) etc.

Bill Bailey, My Fair Lady, Radiohead, Muse, classical music scene etc.

I know the country's sort of down the sewer at the moment, but all it needs is a little INTPness to liven it up!

 

[inquiringF]

It is uncommon for a person to have a genuine received pronunciation accent.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

ain't much of a classical scene i know of, or anything near me. i will rot there

where do you live cheese?

 

[cheese]

inquiring:
Haha! You know something about it, then. I know it's not common, though it does exist, which is why I mentioned accents in the plural. I am interested in all accents.

Soth:
I live in Sydney. Which part of England do you live in? The classical scene is big - in the classical world.

I am going to create a new thread in the Arena if anyone wants to continue this discussion. I will not respond to any more posts here off-topic, sorry! Just trying to keep threads neat.

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Done.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

north-west. lancashire. far away from the southern part where classical must flourish.

now Sydney would be nice...

 

[dwags222]

my mom went to england once.

 

[cheese]

Ok, now even the thread-starter has lost the plot.

Did she like it?

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

...and she survived?!

 

[Anthile]

my mom went to england once.

If she is a gourmet or a cook, it would be without any doubt qualify as thrill seeking.

 

[cheese]

Wouldn't it be more like horrifying-boredom seeking?

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

That Is England

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

I enjoyed my trip to England a couple years ago and I am a gourmet cook (chef actually). Can't say it was thrill seeking but it wasn't boring either.

On topic:
If you define thrill seeking as jumping out of an airplane, scaling the side of some cliff or jumping off a bridge with a rubber band tied to your ankle, the answer is Hell No!

If you define thrill seeking as going to new places, exploring or driving too fast, the answer is yes.

 

[cheese]

I refuse to believe England is horrifyingly boring until I experience the dreariness myself. In the meantime I will watch reruns of My Fair Lady.

I am a bit of a thrill seeker, but I approach it not seeking thrills but looking to satisfy my compulsion to face fear. I live in fear of myself, knowing that at any point I could force myself to do something incredibly dumb that I have absolutely no interest in, just to prove I can.

 

[saffyangelis]

Anthile is just having a dig at Chip butties, he thinks they sound awful (all you british people, this is when we protest about that!)

And I'm from england too, and if you ever do visit, I really hope you like the rain, and the cold. And Chip butties are nice. And Tea is a meal, not just the drink.

And it's wet. and not a lot of fun most of the time.

 

[LucasM]

Back to the original topic.
-evil glare-

I am not big into crazy stunts myself.
I do do crazy stuff once in a while, and I enjoy it, but only after I am completely confident that the risk is sufficiently low. Like I'll cliff jump 10m or so after seeing someone else do it. But I won't jump 30m like my brother does sometimes.
Whatever I do, though, I have to be confident that I will remain in control. Confidence is the biggest issue with me.

 

[cheese]

saffy:
What on earth are chip butties?! Rain I can deal with.

Australia's similar with some of the terms (eg Tea) so I shouldn't experience too much culture shock.

LucasM:
Isn't it more dangerous to jump a shorter distance?

 

[paradoxfromthebay]

I think we should leave inquiringF alone. He'd be utterly destroyed in the outside world and this is supposed to be a haven for INTP misfits. At least give him one place to let it fly! He hasn't said anything arrogant so far (that I've read) so I personally don't see the need to pick on his wording. He might loosen up after a while anyway.

I agree with you that this should be a haven for INTP misfits to be free to express themselves in ways that others in the outside world might not be as understanding of. I do think our opinions were appropriate to express, provided they do not continue to the point of harrassment. Your outlook on this situation is a good middle ground.

You are correct that people vex me about my vocabulary utilization. It seems my elaborate sentences perplexes them.

Some people are perplexed by elaborate sentences, that's true. I think everyone here has a decent vocabulary however, and my commentary was more concerning your choice of style. Communication is about the exchange of information. The communicator has the biggest responsibility and the biggest freedom in adapting his words so that they are easily understood by the receiver of said communication. If the speech is obfuscated and intentionally convoluted, it is usually an indicator of the communicators desire to express superiority to the listener. Perhaps this is not the case with you, and if this is actually the way you talk, then I respect that and I will not comment any further.

I know I personally used to get A's on my high school papers because I would fill them with bloated sentences and big words. I've since come to the conclusion that it is better to express things as succinctly as possible, while using as many words as you need to clearly get your point across. If people have a hard time understanding what you say, or have think about it harder or do extra work to understand it, they are likely to lose interest in what you have to say, and move on to people who's communication style is similar to their own.

 

[Ermine]

I don't like taking risks for the sake of thrills unless the pros overwhelmingly outweigh the cons. For example, I'm a lot more likely to take a few jumps when skiing (I'm a beginner so don't laugh) than try sky diving. Both are risks, but one's safer than the other.

 

[Jesin]

You are correct that people vex me about my vocabulary utilization. It seems my elaborate sentences perplexes them.

You mean perplex, not perplexes. If you're going to do that, at least get the grammar right.

And the choice of the word "vex" seems a little off in that context.

 

[inquiringF]

I agree with you that this should be a haven for INTP misfits to be free to express themselves in ways that others in the outside world might not be as understanding of. I do think our opinions were appropriate to express, provided they do not continue to the point of harrassment. Your outlook on this situation is a good middle ground.



Some people are perplexed by elaborate sentences, that's true. I think everyone here has a decent vocabulary however, and my commentary was more concerning your choice of style. Communication is about the exchange of information. The communicator has the biggest responsibility and the biggest freedom in adapting his words so that they are easily understood by the receiver of said communication. If the speech is obfuscated and intentionally convoluted, it is usually an indicator of the communicators desire to express superiority to the listener. Perhaps this is not the case with you, and if this is actually the way you talk, then I respect that and I will not comment any further.

I know I personally used to get A's on my high school papers because I would fill them with bloated sentences and big words. I've since come to the conclusion that it is better to express things as succinctly as possible, while using as many words as you need to clearly get your point across. If people have a hard time understanding what you say, or have think about it harder or do extra work to understand it, they are likely to lose interest in what you have to say, and move on to people who's communication style is similar to their own.

Should I be allegiant to providing the crux of my message lucidly? I do not have to elucidate messages for the boon of everyone. I have ratified that there will be people whom do not have the time or the adroitness to grasp me, which is fair and inevitable with any communication. It is axiomatic that I should aspire to be assimilated facilely, yet I am too perfunctory.

 

[dwags222]

^^ hey you actually used whom the right way this time.

I have ratified that there will be people whom do not have the time or the adroitness to grasp me, which is fair and inevitable with any communication.

you do realize you bring this upon yourself. there are those who are misunderstood because they are geniuses, and those who just wish to be misunderstood to appear to be something they are not.

It is axiomatic that I should aspire to be assimilated facilely, yet I am too perfunctory.

i suspect that it is because you are not perfunctory that you go out of your way to use vocabulary which is so clearly not colloquial

 

[inquiringF]

Why do I have to capitulate to conventions? Why are you insistent on chiding me when I am not being belligerent or deleterious? You are the two being pugnacious with a condescending demeanor. This attitude is defective as my wording is.

 

[inquiringF]

You mean perplex, not perplexes. If you're going to do that, at least get the grammar right.

And the choice of the word "vex" seems a little off in that context.

Oh yes. I noticed that after reading it again--thank you. I pronounced it with my thoughts and the incorrectness of it was clearly apparent. Reckless mistake. Vex was appropriate for the opinion I was expressing--which was that they trouble/irritate me over the matter. After reading it my post, I realized adding 'ed' to the end of 'vex' could make it better, but I think my point was conveyed sufficiently. 'Vex' should be suitable for now, considering people have kept at it.

 

[dwags222]

This attitude is defective as my wording is.

well at least you admit it.

 

[inquiringF]

well at least you admit it.

I was thinking that it was defective to your standards. No one's sentences are consummate.

 

[dwags222]

by speaking in a manner that is unnecessarily arduous you do everyone a disfavor, including yourself. but if you desire to continue speaking as you do just to be yourself, i will no longer stand in your way, nor will i attempt to communicate with you on any level whatsoever. speaking with a colloquial vocabulary shows that you both want to be understood and want to communicate with the masses, but if you don't want to do this, so be it.

 

[inquiringF]

by speaking in a manner that is unnecessarily arduous you do everyone a disfavor, including yourself. but if you desire to continue speaking as you do just to be yourself, i will no longer stand in your way, nor will i attempt to communicate with you on any level whatsoever. speaking with a colloquial vocabulary shows that you both want to be understood and want to communicate with the masses, but if you don't want to do this, so be it.

Is this not comparable to having the tantamount arrogance that you thought I had?

 

[chintz]

I'm a thrill seeker, but also a homebody, so I do stuff like skydiving, but not often. I like a lot of thrills, but they usually come in smaller forms.

 

[paradoxfromthebay]

You are the two being pugnacious with a condescending demeanor...

Fightin words... we were just trying to help...

You have to remember that the superstitions in Egpyt could have been 'fact' and 'knowledge' to their population at the time. Under this condition, sensors would have accepted these beliefs as they accept science today. The general consensus would have convinced them.

Laboratory technician are typically the people whom are assigned to perform basic routine tasks that are repetitive. It's like preparing a coffee for your boss and tidying his desk in the science field.

You've been exposed. The above quotes are proof that you know how to talk like a normal person. Hope you're having fun with the thesaurus!

 

[cheese]

paradox:
I thought you made some good points, and agree with them. The difference is in the degree to which I thought they applied to inquiringF. I thought obfuscation was a possibility, but didn't think there was enough evidence to merit that accusation on the basis of that post alone. Subsequent posts may have suggested otherwise. I have no opinion on the subject. My point is merely that we are often too quick to judge. Even the desire to appear superior that you mentioned may have deeper roots than is immediately obvious - especially on a forum like this, where a lot of us are being intellectually challenged (by many other people) probably for the first time in our lives. This can be very disquieting for the INTP ego!
And of course, as I mentioned earlier, he could lighten up eventually as the mental boundary between Us and Them is erased. Speaking in an accusatory way during the first few interactions is bound to set one up for problems, which then lead to bias on both sides and the inability to see anything objectively.

Anyway I really appreciate your calmness and objectivity; instead of getting emotionally involved you addressed the issue fairly. This is always nice to come across! And yes, I suspect inquiringF is indeed capable of normal speech. Perhaps he's playing with us.

 

[inquiringF]

Fightin words... we were just trying to help...

You've been exposed. The above quotes are proof that you know how to talk like a normal person. Hope you're having fun with the thesaurus!

Wow, you are desperately trying, are you not? I will not have a nice word in mind every time.

 

[echoplex]

It seems that Sensors are most likely to be experience junkies, which seems related to thrill seeking to me. It seems that for INTPs, the thrill is the idea itself, not so much the resulting experience. For example, an INTP would get a great thrill from inventing a new way to explore the world, but an ESxx would likely be more excited about actually doing it. The INTP would be busy coming up with new ideas about other things.

 

[Wisp]

I'd be annoyed with InquiringF, but every word he uses is one that I've used at other times to befuddle those who happen to go to school with me... Public school is a fun place to confuse people!