any of you enjoy go-karting?

[pjoa09]

I enjoy Go-Karting but I notice it isn't a typical INTP or nerds way to go about with hobbies.

I often test as INTP I have only two accounts of testing out ISTP. At the same time I am caught day dreaming, thinking, and at the same time being impulsive.

I would wish to go-kart forever however it would be like launching a space shuttle every single day to the moon. (Tedious, painful, and capable of burning black holes into pockets)

I can't be certain of intuition or sensory as I am due to my little quirks.

Earlier I posted a thread which proved to be that most INTPs don't obsess over cars unlike me.

So is Go-Karting of any interest here? Not building one but actually enjoy driving lap after lap after lap of competition?

This would really help me pin point where am I on the intuition vs. sensory scale as apparently I seem to dangle on the line a lot.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

It's pretty cool. I've never been to(but always wanted to go to) the more specialized go kart centers. The only place I've been to is that Mulligan's Family Fun Center place.

I'd ride all day if I could.

 

[Melllvar]

I prefer bumper-boats. You can even get wet.

 

[Reluctantly]

I like motorcycles. They are kind of the same, except go-karts aren't allowed on the road.

 

[Cogwulf]

I like motorcycles. They are kind of the same, except go-karts aren't allowed on the road.

And they have less wheels

 

[boondockbabe]

Sounds great to me. I love that stuff. I like dangerous-makes me feel alive. I am a car nut..well actually I'm a classic truck nut but same-diff. I remember when all I wanted to do was that stuff. But I am a bonafide adrenaline junky. It's why I train horses. I live for the rush-can't help it. It's such a rush when I push the limits-I like to almost wipe out and somehow pull through. You want to talk about driving fast. gimme a holler! I can talk about pushing the limits all day long. just gets me going. I think you're fine. You can be intuitive and still like a good rush. thats why they make amusement parks. You just like to be a little closer to the action.

 

[Solitaire U.]

It's pretty cool. I've never been to(but always wanted to go to) the more specialized go kart centers. The only place I've been to is that Mulligan's Family Fun Center place.

I'd ride all day if I could.

In the heart of a city that rhymes with 'Lawrence'
sits a Go-Karting track staffed by people with warrants
It was once a fine place but it's now an abhorrence

Is this the Mulligan's of which you speak? Actually, in comparison to other Aging Family Fun Center Equipped With Go-Kart Track type establishments in the area, this is probably the least beat to shit of them. Seems like a long time since anything new has gone up Kart or FFC -wise. End of an era, most likely. The only Kart-dedicated place I've been is this one in Carson for which the name escapes me (huge sign visible from the freeway). I seem to recall it being outlandishly expensive and a bit thick with fanboy-types sporting full racing attire for my taste.

It would seem that spinning donuts in the storage yard at dad's work is more fun than Karting these days.

 

[boondockbabe]

They actually have four or five tracks still in operation in Lake of The Ozarks. Thats in missouri.

 

[Jesse]

I like go karting. Actually I love it. Very fun. Not as fun as paintball though. About the same level as laser tag.

 

[pjoa09]

It's not like paintball for me or a simple fun event that I go back happy from.

I also play GT4 as compulsively and I used to play basketball at that level of compulsion.

What I am talking about is seriously obsessive perfection. I go lap after lap trying to find the shortest way through possible using whatever skills and knowledge I have acquired before.

Everytime I go around I am thinking about going wide before the corner coming in to the apex and then pulling out with the right amount of acceleration and especially because I am impulsive and enjoy sliding around I would give it a little more power and let the car slide a little.

I draw out my imaginary lines and try to make it as fast as possible.

It's like GT4 except much more real and immensely more exciting.

Even in GT4 I am trying to find the flow of lines and trying to get feel of the weight distribution around the track. Often me and my friend run individual time trials and try to see gets around the track the quickest.

He is obviously the faster one and indeed in a relatively short indoor track he has beaten me by 0.19 because I am a heavy footer and am at least 20 kgs heavier.

I always though of that as a very ISTP sort of thing. It could be an intuition thing judging by some opinions of what personality type are F1 drivers.

Could simply mean that I am just lacking on certain aspects of life or struggling to cope with the current amount of dopamine running through my head.

Also, I don't realize the strain I put on my body while go-karting but after a good run I can't pick up my drink and the next day my body aches completely.

Which also could mean that I focused so hard that I couldn't feel pain like I would normally,.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I like go karting. Actually I love it. Very fun. Not as fun as paintball though. About the same level as laser tag.

Damn. I've had a marker for several years now, haven't been once!

Laser tag is cool too. More for the covertness of it all, and the psychedelic lighting.

In the heart of a city that rhymes with 'Lawrence'
sits a Go-Karting track staffed by people with warrants
It was once a fine place but it's now an abhorrence

Is this the Mulligan's of which you speak? Actually, in comparison to other Aging Family Fun Center Equipped With Go-Kart Track type establishments in the area, this is probably the least beat to shit of them. Seems like a long time since anything new has gone up Kart or FFC -wise. End of an era, most likely. The only Kart-dedicated place I've been is this one in Carson for which the name escapes me (huge sign visible from the freeway). I seem to recall it being outlandishly expensive and a bit thick with fanboy-types sporting full racing attire for my taste.

It would seem that spinning donuts in the storage yard at dad's work is more fun than Karting these days.

Yeah that's it. The place is subpar but still cool a little bit, I guess, overall. They need more landspace, and if they increased the size of their venues, and made it more "cutting edge" or at least added some more adult attractions(yeah, I know it's "Family fun", still), it'd be a solid place.


I know what you're talking about though, the highway place. Speedzone? Something like that. I've never been there either though, always forgot about it.

 

[boondockbabe]

It's not like paintball for me or a simple fun event that I go back happy from.

I also play GT4 as compulsively and I used to play basketball at that level of compulsion.

What I am talking about is seriously obsessive perfection. I go lap after lap trying to find the shortest way through possible using whatever skills and knowledge I have acquired before.

Everytime I go around I am thinking about going wide before the corner coming in to the apex and then pulling out with the right amount of acceleration and especially because I am impulsive and enjoy sliding around I would give it a little more power and let the car slide a little.

I draw out my imaginary lines and try to make it as fast as possible.

It's like GT4 except much more real and immensely more exciting.

Even in GT4 I am trying to find the flow of lines and trying to get feel of the weight distribution around the track. Often me and my friend run individual time trials and try to see gets around the track the quickest.

He is obviously the faster one and indeed in a relatively short indoor track he has beaten me by 0.19 because I am a heavy footer and am at least 20 kgs heavier.

I always though of that as a very ISTP sort of thing. It could be an intuition thing judging by some opinions of what personality type are F1 drivers.

Could simply mean that I am just lacking on certain aspects of life or struggling to cope with the current amount of dopamine running through my head.

Also, I don't realize the strain I put on my body while go-karting but after a good run I can't pick up my drink and the next day my body aches completely.

Which also could mean that I focused so hard that I couldn't feel pain like I would normally,.

As a competitive barrel racer I can totally relate to what youre saying. As perfectionists we are always striving to better our performance and there is no such thing as "a perfect run". I spend the night before a compitition running the pattern over and over in my head.
My heart races just thinking about it. I devote a LOT of time to improving my runs.
And it does put a strain on your body. I have pulled major muscle groups many times. Now alot of this can pe prevented or at least lessend by better physical fitness but some soreness will always be there.
Its propably the adrenaline that makes it impossible to pick up a drink after a run. Shakey hands mean a good natural high. I have found that I feel better when I'm competing and I dont use as many drugs-I attribute this to the NATURAL relase of dopamine. You dont feel the pain at the time 'cause you're riding an adrenaline high.
Adrenaline is what our bodies produce naturally in "survival" situations-running from an attacker for instance. It blocks any pain you are feeling so that you can get away. Thats why a lion can attack a zebra and the zebra can be hurt bad but he still managesto escape. And it feels GOOD!! Adrenaline also speeds up your thinking/reacting which is why in certain situations it feels like things are not really going as fast as they really are, ie- It seems like it takes forever to hit the wall when you know you're gonna eat shit.
and if you want to win ya gotta loose as much excess weight as possible. for me that means not weighing over 120lbs. The pro racers weigh about 100-110 pounds at the top level. I like to eat too much for that. but I love to race so I play locally alot.
I really think you're fine. I think you just have a competitive nature coupled with a little bit of an adrenaline addiction.
Use your personality to your advantage. You're a planner with a driven personality- you should be great.
Do the big crowds bug you? I choke at the big runs. I get all bunged up around alot of people.

 

[Reluctantly]

And they have less wheels

Minor details, I say!

 

[Architect]

You're probably ISTP, who love sports like this and skiing. ISTP's frequently test out as INTP, as the way MBTI is nobody wants to be a sensor.

 

[boondockbabe]

interesting..

 

[Solitaire U.]

The descriptions the OP and others provided above, of somewhat obsessive relationships with lines, apexes, and optimizations in .10 sec. increments, are revealing to say the least. It's a bit misleading to assume highly competitive natures would be conducive to forms of racing where the clock is one's only opponent. The prime consideration here is that all those lines, apexes, and minute optimizations cease to exist the moment human opponents enter the track. System routing is essentially what you gentlemen are describing...a major component of INTP nature so autonomous that INTP's themselves tend to lack conscious awareness of it, IMAO...and you've found a means of pursuing it that is as valid and appropriate to the venue as all the other forms of pursuit taking place on a Karting course.

A point of contrast...

My brother raced quarter midgets, beginning I believe at age 5 and continuing for several years until around 1976 or so. I think it was more his father's interest than his own, but at the time this was taken for granted as a practical necessity in consideration of all the special skills, time, and genuine devotion required to furnish a kid with what was needed to participate.

Which was just as well for the kids, considering the complex and unforgiving nature of quarter midget racing, which is essentially full midget racing shrunk down in proportion to 1/4 scale. The tracks are dirt or asphalt ovals, generally banked to some degree, and short, like a twentieth of a mile. But basic tracks don't necessarily equate to basic experiences. Not saying that assumption is exclusive to INTP's, but time-trial Karting enthusiasts unfamiliar with oval circuit protocol might be somewhat prone to mis-observations. A purpose-engineered and constructed Karting circuit is probably the most controlled racing environment possible, and time-trialing is surely the most controlled form. It seems almost crafted by design to pursue uber forms of personal achievement, or self improvement.

Again, not necessarily a negative pursuit, or one lacking integrity, but perhaps in this case the question of INTP-relativity is more answerable in degrees of inerrant weakness, and thus more difficult to figure out due to natural reluctance.

This is considerably different to racing quarter midgets. where developing at least some degree of camaraderie is a practical necessity, not of winning, but simply to achieve a position where winning becomes a possibility. Perfection, if such a thing even exists, isn't even remotely possible in this atmosphere that amounts to sheer dynamic chaos. Similarly, the significance of mathematically shortest/fastest lines is arbitrary at best, as the conditions defining parameters for those things are constantly changing. Improvisational fluency and skillful evasive maneuvering, combined with luck, rather than the fastest car or shortest line, are what it takes, and every kid racing quarter midgets knows this. Another thing they know is that winners ultimately end up fighting back far more tears than also-rans. I saw my brother do that more than once and used to think it was funny, but now I just wish I had a deeper understanding of what it all means...another weakness perhaps attributable to my own INTPiquities.

 

[lucky12]

Dirtbikes, quads, and large pickup trucks jacked up with mud tires and sound systems. I was never good at any sports as a kid, I found my talent in driving. When I'm dirt biking, I'm a stone faced killer. Ideally you focus on speed and position, especially if your on a track. For me I just have to get in the groove of not thinking about other stuff, usually near the end of a track day my riding is superb even though I'm physically exhausted. The first time I cleared my first big table top I felt like I was king of the world, its surreal, watching shit below you when your like 10 feet in the air.

Rolling in a pickup is great because your pretty safe in most situations. I put my belt on, music high, 4 wheel drive, and just wreck shit. Great for dates no matter what the personality of the other person is.

I also play pool religiously because I have a table at home, passes the time when your alone. I'm fairly good, I play on a huge 12' table meant for snooker more or less. When I encounter the standard? sized tables I can generally clean up pretty easily. I find a mental game to be my strongest way to winning, especially if someone at a bar challenges me for my table. I usually don't talk, focus on my shots, and never show any emotion. Some people see how I play and they scoff at me, telling me my angles are terrible.. Thats when the (Te)eeth come out, and my Ni goes to work.

 

[pjoa09]

As a competitive barrel racer I can totally relate to what youre saying. As perfectionists we are always striving to better our performance and there is no such thing as "a perfect run". I spend the night before a compitition running the pattern over and over in my head.
My heart races just thinking about it. I devote a LOT of time to improving my runs.
And it does put a strain on your body. I have pulled major muscle groups many times. Now alot of this can pe prevented or at least lessend by better physical fitness but some soreness will always be there.
Its propably the adrenaline that makes it impossible to pick up a drink after a run. Shakey hands mean a good natural high. I have found that I feel better when I'm competing and I dont use as many drugs-I attribute this to the NATURAL relase of dopamine. You dont feel the pain at the time 'cause you're riding an adrenaline high.
Adrenaline is what our bodies produce naturally in "survival" situations-running from an attacker for instance. It blocks any pain you are feeling so that you can get away. Thats why a lion can attack a zebra and the zebra can be hurt bad but he still managesto escape. And it feels GOOD!! Adrenaline also speeds up your thinking/reacting which is why in certain situations it feels like things are not really going as fast as they really are, ie- It seems like it takes forever to hit the wall when you know you're gonna eat shit.
and if you want to win ya gotta loose as much excess weight as possible. for me that means not weighing over 120lbs. The pro racers weigh about 100-110 pounds at the top level. I like to eat too much for that. but I love to race so I play locally alot.
I really think you're fine. I think you just have a competitive nature coupled with a little bit of an adrenaline addiction.
Use your personality to your advantage. You're a planner with a driven personality- you should be great.
Do the big crowds bug you? I choke at the big runs. I get all bunged up around alot of people.

Well at 6'1 I can't go too far down the scale! My stature is great but not designed for racing in any means. The best I could do with my weight is to shift the kart around.

I am not a professional so I don't have people looking but if I notice someone hot noticing I will make really rash decisions while turning. ( i.e. not braking and letting traction bite me in the ass, literally.)

I guess I don't have a good hold of this competitive side. It is strange, catching yourself doing something for 2 hours straight over and over again for a tenth of a sec.

From Solitaire I am now convinced that it is INTP nature. I would find going around an oval frustratingly difficult.

If I make a good lap, I cross my arms,stare at my time, and I give that look ( find a better way through look ).

I will say that I am always struggling with consistency and I only aim for the best lap time as possible even if it compromises the integrity of the other laps.

I never eat shit, just the barrier eats mine.

I also play tetris compulsively without opponents just round after round trying to get a higher score.

It's very odd... I also watch safety crash tests...

 

[boondockbabe]

I never wanted to be a professional I just couldnt even think about going to school and getting an education without the money. The winners get paid higher training fees so thats how that goes. the foxtrotter world show is pretty small too. I get really nervous around crowds. usually causes me to choke. my husband used to jokingly call me "choke city kitty" cause if there were more than ten people in the stands I would invariably screw up. My best times are when nobody is watching. I love watching people crash..its a little morbid I guess but really intertaining.

I also like to drive dirt roads. Gettin' a good drift goin really amps me too.

 

[lucky12]

Not to mention snowy days, boondock. If you drive an SUV or a pickup its still pretty easy to drift on dry roads I'm pro at sliding out on left hand turns in intersections (no cars on the road, at night).

 

[Cogwulf]

You're probably ISTP, who love sports like this and skiing. ISTP's frequently test out as INTP, as the way MBTI is nobody wants to be a sensor.

Si and sport still go together well.
Se people play sport in "real time", they make decisions as they go and react immediately to new situations.

Si people play sport from memory, rather than enjoying the thrill of the action, they enjoy the familiarity of something they do regularly. They can't react quickly to new situations, but instead they learn the best reactions to different situations through repetition.
For example, an INTP go-carter would be very quick on a track he visits regularly, but would be uncomfortable on a new track and take a long time to learn it.

 

[Melkor]

No.
I'm much too tall to sit in something which is made to be comfortable for those under six foot.>.>

 

[Cogwulf]

No.
I'm much too tall to sit in something which is made to be comfortable for those under six foot.>.>

I agree with this.

Someone I used to work with was a go-karter, and he was tiny and thin, but he said he was big compared to a lot of people he competed against.

 

[Melkor]

You should see me in a Bumper-car! I'm almost bent double trying to fit in, and relatively speaking I'm not THAT tall for my age and sex.

 

[boondockbabe]

yea, the tall thing sucks. it isnt condusive to riding horses either. Hard to keep your center of gravity if things get rough. Thats one of the reasons the jockeys are so darn short.

 

[boondockbabe]

Not to mention snowy days, boondock. If you drive an SUV or a pickup its still pretty easy to drift on dry roads I'm pro at sliding out on left hand turns in intersections (no cars on the road, at night).

Its alot of fun tearin' around in the pasture. I don't have the balls to try and slide my full sized 87' ford truck on dry pavement. my darn wheelbase is 155". I'm also a little top heavy. prob. 'cause its 4wd.

 

[BitRogue]

I enjoy Go-Karting but I notice it isn't a typical INTP or nerds way to go about with hobbies.

I often test as INTP I have only two accounts of testing out ISTP. At the same time I am caught day dreaming, thinking, and at the same time being impulsive.

I would wish to go-kart forever however it would be like launching a space shuttle every single day to the moon. (Tedious, painful, and capable of burning black holes into pockets)

I can't be certain of intuition or sensory as I am due to my little quirks.

Earlier I posted a thread which proved to be that most INTPs don't obsess over cars unlike me.

So is Go-Karting of any interest here? Not building one but actually enjoy driving lap after lap after lap of competition?

This would really help me pin point where am I on the intuition vs. sensory scale as apparently I seem to dangle on the line a lot.

I don't have a huge interest in sports, actually, its pretty no-existent. I do watch a bit of cricket when some big matches are on (anyone in the US know cricket?) But one thing did enjoy a lot was F1 before I sold the TV. Playing sports is different and used to get involved with quite a few different thing socially.

But cars has always been a big thing for me. I used to do all the Go-Kart circuits in my home town and used to wipe the board with everyone I raced against. I am very competitive behind a wheel and the guys I race with know that. They know they cant win so they try their hardest to block me whenver I come around. Every lap is a learning experience to improve on in the next. Best lines, level of grip, minimum breaking, earliest place in a corner to start accelerating. Traffic requires some level of art to zip by under their noses. Very funny to see their reactions when I squeeze into gaps that they never thought was possible.

I also have a Land Rover and regularly do trips out into the wild. In preparation for this I enjoy doing 4x4 tracks and extreme obstacles. Its not so competitive as it is skill building and fear inducing but in the end its still man and machine doing some cool stuff. I've also had some fairly tricked out cars in my time and Im currently driving an Audi S-Line TDI on a daily basis, not as fast as some of my previous ones, but still pretty gutsy with an added level of comfort and gadgets that I never had before.
None of this is specifically INTP typical, but one shouldnt box INTPs into thinking they only do this stuff, but not that stuff.

Racing is fun for me. I would love to have considered doing it professionally, but the opportunity was never fully there and my INTP world had other ideas for me.

Whether you're ISTP or INTP, dont let it phase you if you're doing something different than the norm. That is the essence being an INTP, essentially, we're born to be different. And tackle challenges with extreme rationality. Personally I think there should be more INTP racers out there. Seven time F1 world champion Michael Schumacher is considered ENTP, our closest MBTI cousin. Worth thinking about

 

[Nocturne]

Unfortunately, go-karts don't go too fast... Quite frustrating.

 

[pjoa09]

I don't have a huge interest in sports, actually, its pretty no-existent. I do watch a bit of cricket when some big matches are on (anyone in the US know cricket?) But one thing did enjoy a lot was F1 before I sold the TV. Playing sports is different and used to get involved with quite a few different thing socially.

But cars has always been a big thing for me. I used to do all the Go-Kart circuits in my home town and used to wipe the board with everyone I raced against. I am very competitive behind a wheel and the guys I race with know that. They know they cant win so they try their hardest to block me whenver I come around. Every lap is a learning experience to improve on in the next. Best lines, level of grip, minimum breaking, earliest place in a corner to start accelerating. Traffic requires some level of art to zip by under their noses. Very funny to see their reactions when I squeeze into gaps that they never thought was possible.

I also have a Land Rover and regularly do trips out into the wild. In preparation for this I enjoy doing 4x4 tracks and extreme obstacles. Its not so competitive as it is skill building and fear inducing but in the end its still man and machine doing some cool stuff. I've also had some fairly tricked out cars in my time and Im currently driving an Audi S-Line TDI on a daily basis, not as fast as some of my previous ones, but still pretty gutsy with an added level of comfort and gadgets that I never had before.
None of this is specifically INTP typical, but one shouldnt box INTPs into thinking they only do this stuff, but not that stuff.

Racing is fun for me. I would love to have considered doing it professionally, but the opportunity was never fully there and my INTP world had other ideas for me.

Whether you're ISTP or INTP, dont let it phase you if you're doing something different than the norm. That is the essence being an INTP, essentially, we're born to be different. And tackle challenges with extreme rationality. Personally I think there should be more INTP racers out there. Seven time F1 world champion Michael Schumacher is considered ENTP, our closest MBTI cousin. Worth thinking about

Well I know many people who enjoy cricket... Indians. We won ! no wait. match fixing.. Ah! yes.

Know it. Know people who love it. Hate it.

I don't consider myself competitive as much as compulsive. I am always in trance while racing and I keep it that way.

Because the family car is a Camry 2.0 I just follow race lines while driving to excite myself.

Yeah, I am sticking with INTP. I think Schumacher is INTJ and Senna is INFJ . Perceiving couldn't possibly favor perfection.

We never fix in the box and we know we shouldn't so I am sticking with INTP simply on the basis of how I think.

 

[pjoa09]

I never wanted to be a professional I just couldnt even think about going to school and getting an education without the money. The winners get paid higher training fees so thats how that goes. the foxtrotter world show is pretty small too. I get really nervous around crowds. usually causes me to choke. my husband used to jokingly call me "choke city kitty" cause if there were more than ten people in the stands I would invariably screw up. My best times are when nobody is watching. I love watching people crash..its a little morbid I guess but really intertaining.

I also like to drive dirt roads. Gettin' a good drift goin really amps me too.

Over here you have to be rich to be professional.

I wish I could race for money but really all I over take are slow as shit people. I get a good one lap but I spend my other laps trying out stupid ways of going faster which obviously don't work.

Maybe my size screws it up bad too and that is why I can't take it as a profession at all.

Besides, I am not talented in it. I could probably be talented in computers. I mean I hear more compliments in my ability to help fix up little problems than getting around a circuit or getting more points in basketball.

 

[boondockbabe]

running over and beating the locals is the start and then you work your way up as u learn. It takes alot and its not for someone who isnt into planning because you're always trying to find a way up.A professional is just someone who gets money for their services. I get paid to train show horses, I spent ten years on my life persuing my equitation-the art of riding. I'ts really just a way to pay for my extremely expensive horse habit.
I have to show to get the customers that will pay a decent rate. How well my horse performs is what dictates what kind of people I can get. the goal is the really rich costomers. They are hard to find in this economy over here . This was accomplished by traning and showing horses. I like training- its fun when they try to buck you off, I have to keep my dopaminelevels up to function properly or my anexeity gets real bad. My therapist and I spoke baout it.
I though Professional would make me rich- but it dosnt, It just ups the pressure you feel. I stopped training show horses and started training plain riding horses. I am much happier and it opens up the time to persue my educatinal dreams.

 

[Words]

Enjoy temporarily yes, but I doubt I would want to do it everyday. The things that I want to do everyday are the things I am currently doing.

 

[pjoa09]

running over and beating the locals is the start and then you work your way up as u learn. It takes alot and its not for someone who isnt into planning because you're always trying to find a way up.A professional is just someone who gets money for their services. I get paid to train show horses, I spent ten years on my life persuing my equitation-the art of riding. I'ts really just a way to pay for my extremely expensive horse habit.
I have to show to get the customers that will pay a decent rate. How well my horse performs is what dictates what kind of people I can get. the goal is the really rich costomers. They are hard to find in this economy over here . This was accomplished by traning and showing horses. I like training- its fun when they try to buck you off, I have to keep my dopaminelevels up to function properly or my anexeity gets real bad. My therapist and I spoke baout it.
I though Professional would make me rich- but it dosnt, It just ups the pressure you feel. I stopped training show horses and started training plain riding horses. I am much happier and it opens up the time to persue my educatinal dreams.

We don't have horses here or if we do then they'd be more expensive than an S600 Benz.

I couldn't even train my dog and ended up having him sent away. Seriously, potty training is difficult when you don't have a yard or balcony.