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So I had one person empathize with me and open up, now I have emotions. I feel the things I never did. my feelings have gone from ripples in a puddle to waves in an ocean. very simple question : what the fuck happened and how? what did this person do to me?

I wont post anymore dumb shit for a while, sorry.
 

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You've become infected.
 

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Very probably this^

I felt almost the same effect almost 2 years ago now. It hasn't gone away so I'm guessing I'm just going to be some emotional pussy forever now.
was it caused by something similar?
 

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Yeah. INTPs don't swim in that vacuous ocean known as emotion. You could get stung by depression, bitten by insecurity, trapped in myopia. It's just not smart to let yourself be vulnerable to the wild like that. It's witchcraft, magic. Irrational and not profitable. Never make skin contact, never make eye contact. Just run away as fast as you can, before you're able to empathize with all the sentimental music videos on youtube. GONDOR HAS BEEN WARNED, FLY YOU FOOL!
 

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Well if losing my virginity, experiencing love for the first time, and then having that love painfully dragged from my brain straight through my body and out my fucking urethra and never returned is similar to your situation, then yes :D.
 

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Yeah. INTPs don't swim in that vacuous ocean known as emotion. You could get stung by depression, bitten by insecurity, trapped in myopia. It's just not smart to let yourself be vulnerable to the wild like that. It's witchcraft, magic. Irrational and not profitable. Never make skin contact, never make eye contact. Just run away as fast as you can, before you're able to empathize with all the sentimental music videos on youtube. GONDOR HAS BEEN WARNED, FLY YOU FOOL!

it is far too late, I already understand the sentimental music videos. this one hurts particularly bad, the sparkly jackets are only half the pain : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP9vzM_13XU

this is a serious question though, how does someone do a total 180 like this? I dont even know how to research this, what would I even search? I cant get rid of this person, every tangent comes back to them.
 

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I cant get rid of this person, every tangent comes back to them.

Yep, this is my problem.

Sorry I can't be of much help. I'm still trying to figure it out.

Best guess I have now is that I'm insane and probably broken and some rare people just have a magical ability where their very existence exacerbates those problems which kind of creates an endless cycle of masochistic self-pity/hatred and oddly PTSD-like symptoms.
 

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okay bois
all aboard the magic school bus! we gotta kill cheesums' white blood cells
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okay bois
all aboard the magic school bus! we gotta kill cheesums' white blood cells
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I've lost track of the metaphor but I'm wholly open to the idea.

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If you seriously want to get rid of this person, the only way would be to become sociable with other people. Otherwise there's definitely going to be depression involved. Alternatively you could wait until the other person develops his or her own social circle and it'll naturally go away.

How does a person do a 180 like this? Well welcome to bonding, empathy, and love 101. You're human. Every single bipedal carbon humanoid adult before you has gone through the same exact experience. You'll get over it. Print this post, place it in a glass jar somewhere, dig a hole, and make a time capsule set to a couple of years. You'd agree and come to the same conclusions in several years time. Good luck!

I also pray you won't be bonding with this person while she's on her period, or vice versa if that's the case. Oh god the complete mindfuck.
 

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it is far too late, I already understand the sentimental music videos. this one hurts particularly bad, the sparkly jackets are only half the pain :

this is a serious question though, how does someone do a total 180 like this? I dont even know how to research this, what would I even search? I cant get rid of this person, every tangent comes back to them.

i dont know tbh. ive felt this way before and went through a prolonged period of depression because of this. im sorry but i dont really know what you can do to feel better. there is a chance you are putting this person up on a pedestal though and that they're not as great as you think they are...atleast thinking like this eventually helped me in my case. but idk you dont really get over it until someone else infects you. generally try to not give yourself too much room to be alone with your thoughts, it's good to talk to people about this
 

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You're human. Every single bipedal carbon humanoid adult before you has gone through the same exact experience. You'll get over it.

there is a chance you are putting this person up on a pedestal though and that they're not as great as you think they are...atleast thinking like this eventually helped me in my case. . . . generally try to not give yourself too much room to be alone with your thoughts, it's good to talk to people about this

All the half-joking half-covering-my-still-acute-pain-with-fake-levity aside, Steps and Zerk have some good advice that I fully agree with.

It sounds shitty to hear now because it doesn't help in the present moment, but time and distraction are really the only things that seem to do the trick. It doesn't get better if you don't move on. If you don't try to introduce new distractions or people or whatever and actually move forward then you'll essentially always be stuck in time where you are now. Don't try to sever your connection to this person. Try to build as many new and strong connections as possible elsewhere. Your brain will sort out the priorities as the new connections are made.
 

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This person has done some things that I would not accept, but now I have (bias,forgiveness,understanding,the ability to see past) something that lets that be ok. this person helped me in a way that no one else could, and they have borderline personality disorder, and I read about it and it breaks my heart to know that. its curable with therapy, and i asked if they would let me try and help if i did a massive amount of research, but they wont. I completely understand why aswell. so now idk. i was actually thinking of socially withdrawing and focusing on other things. i got hurt about a week ago and have not left my house or done anything other than think about all this. the whole question was how did i change, i suppose the intp condition is a mix of things, and my variation was curable. being human fucking sucks, just like I thought it would. yay to life

Edit:I think we are still friend things, so very complicated. i never actually dated this person
 

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In MBTI speak you'll be able to place this into your collection of Si and be able to overcome it with Fe.

Right now you're exhibiting Ti and Ne.

The Si will be your refuge, your Fe your salvation.
 

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What's with all the swedish stuff? Do you live in sweden? Wanna grab a beer someday?
 

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I like the culture and its not a language spoken where I live, and its basically useless so i love it. i dont live in sweden do you? talar du svenska? jag hade öl det inte bra
my religious friends told me carbon dating isnt valid, so im experiencing sinfull desires and need jesus.
 

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Maybe you find it helpful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MWR29_X4WE

I don't need advices like this anymore cuz at the end it's always the same, it hurts for a while and then u stop feeling. I used to spend time and time analizing why that happened in that way, how if something was changed the results could have been different, trying to understand each word said. I don't do that anymore. I think you just need to spit it all out by contacting other human fellas. Analizing human relationships is a waste of time.
 

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tmb thanks but you are confused, i did sort of break up with someone but the relationship was worse, im quite fine on my own. I am saldy a crazy person with no ability to understand where i stand with people, so distance is best for me. since i dont have to worry about it. its odd how i can undertstand others place in other peoples lives, but with me im lost. ill give myself some cognitive behavioral therapy some rainy day ;)
 
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