Animals In Subconsciousness

[flow]

The terms consciousness and subconsciousness have been thrown around for centuries without exact definitions, and both philosophers and scientists alike have tried to define exactly what those words mean. In thinking about various animals (or just mammals, perhaps), I can't help but argue that they not only enjoy a conscious (or 'soul', for the non-scientific religious types), but a subconscious as well. Lots of animals have been reportedly able to dream, dogs being an excellent example. Of course, the idea of consciousness is hard to define. What is consciousness? Are some humans more conscious than others? I look forward to all of the new research on brains made available by technology.

 

[Perseus]

My theory is that only virgins have animals representing people in the dream world, or alternatively if people come out as animals or cameras they are virgins. But this is sex in the mind rather than sex in the body. Emotional connections.

I was wondering about a Snake and a Baby Dinosaur and the young female with camera instead of a head.

Also headless men attacking me. A lot of men do not connect emotionally for sporting sex (it is too risky and you could become a casualty).

 

[flow]

hmm.. surprisingly, I don't really know what you're talking about.

 

[Perseus]

The term subconscious is defined as existing or operating in the mind beneath or beyond conscious awareness. The word was coined by the psychologist Pierre Janet, who credited it with a hidden level of awareness and automatism. In the strict psychological sense, the adjective is defined as "operating or existing outside of consciousness".[1] The term also appears in Sigmund Freud's very early work, to denote the unconscious mind but was soon eliminated due to its ambiguity.[2] It may also be used to describe the preconscious, information contained in the mind, which although not presently in the conscious, may be recalled by "directing attention to them", such as memories not being recalled at present, but still available to be recalled at will. Use of the term "subconscious" is avoided within academic psychology[3] but remains popular in common use and other academic disciplines.

Wikipedia

Comment:
The term can be confusing. I was referring to dreams.

 

[saffyangelis]

Maybe rather than having different amounts of conciousness, maybe people process different amouts of information in their concious and subconcious minds? Or have different degrees of surpressing/ignoring their subconcious so over time, they start to automatically tune it out, so it becomes weaker and weaker.

The part about dreams is a valid point, I know my cat dreams (she mews and twitches in her sleep), and I'm fairly sure that lots of other animals do too. I read somewhere about this parrot which had actually learn some english, so rather than just copying what was said, it could hold an actual conversation. They had something about the dogs having dreams in that too. I shall have to see if I still have it anywhere.

Hopefully you understood that more than you understood Perseus's reply =)

 

[wadlez]

My theory is that only virgins have animals representing people in the dream world, or alternatively if people come out as animals or cameras they are virgins. But this is sex in the mind rather than sex in the body. Emotional connections.

I was wondering about a Snake and a Baby Dinosaur and the young female with camera instead of a head.

Also headless men attacking me. A lot of men do not connect emotionally for sporting sex (it is too risky and you could become a casualty).

ya'll crazy

 

[Perseus]

ya'll crazy

I might be Mad, but I ain't Crazy. Crazy Horse is ESFJ.

 

[Da Blob]

The terms consciousness and subconsciousness have been thrown around for centuries without exact definitions, and both philosophers and scientists alike have tried to define exactly what those words mean. In thinking about various animals (or just mammals, perhaps), I can't help but argue that they not only enjoy a conscious (or 'soul', for the non-scientific religious types), but a subconscious as well. Lots of animals have been reportedly able to dream, dogs being an excellent example. Of course, the idea of consciousness is hard to define. What is consciousness? Are some humans more conscious than others? I look forward to all of the new research on brains made available by technology.

A very good link for Consciousness
http://consc.net/chalmers/

I think that Freud's definition of the "Sub"conscious it is almost the definition of the word. Ironic...
He, of all people, labeled the Other consciousnesses of a human mind as Sub.
I guess he could not deal with the possibility
that the Egotistical Objective consciousness
was actually one of the "Sub" consciousnesses
We as humans deal with 4 consciousnesses (originating from the Reptile brain, Mammalian brain, Right brain, Left brain....)



BTW the Work of Pierre Janet is so cool...