A wild Umenneske appeared!

[Umenneske]

Hello everyone

I'm an INTP (surprise!) and I love being one.

A couple of months ago I found out about the MBTI and since then I'm enthralled about it. I read a little bit, but I'm far from knowing enough about it, e.g. I can't just spot the type of a person, though my prognoses are getting better.

A bit about me:

I'm male, 18 years old and a misanthrope, because human stupidity and ignorance pisses me off. Hence I like the introverted rationals, INTP and INTJ most and hope to to find some likeables here to have inspiring conversations. I don't know INTPs or INTJs in real life, hence I don't have any real friends I could share my "ingenious" thoughts with. Better to have no friends than stupid ones.

[Oh, by the way, please excuse my partially bad english. I'm from Germany, it's not my native language.]

I would consider myself as a philosopher, because in my opinion it's the most fundermental subject, dealing with the sense of life, searching for wisdom. My favourite Philosophers are Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Spinoza and Descartes.
My philosophy of life is satanism. But I'm not a theistic Satanist, in fact I'm pantheist. Please don't prejudge about me if you don't know about satanism, it's not a pubertal-rebelion-ideology, it's resistance, autonomy, search for truth, strenght and self-development. And it is absolutely rational, you could say it is the striving for the Homo Superior. But yes, ordinary people would assess it as evil.

I am vegan, because in my opinion it's the most healthy diet for body and mind. I prefer animals to humans. It also is an attempt to live in better harmony with nature, because nature is the measure of all things, deus sive natura.

I mostly like dark music, such as black and death metal, old school industrial, avant-garde, a little bit of gothic and especially experimental. But only good bands of that genres! I won't state bands here, becuase they are to valuable to be just listed up here. Maybe I'll post some in a music thread, but with good audio examples.

Well, I guess thats enough for an introduction of me. Feel free to PM me if you have questions or anything. I think it would be cool to have some international interest-sharing INTP friends



That's it.

 

[Cavallier]

Welcome and all that crap.

So, what's so wild about you?

*gives Ume the official greeting involving a bat*

Seriously, your homing bat will come in handy later. Treat him nicely.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

What will ESC do?

___>>FIGHT___PKMN
_____ITEM____RUN


ESC used GREETING!



It's super effective!



What will ESC do?

_____FIGHT___PKMN
___>>ITEM____RUN


ESC used the Master Ball.

... ...

*fanfare*Umenneske was caught!*fanfare*

 

[Jesse]

Has anyone else read up on all the glitches in Pokemon Reb and Blue? Freakin hilarious and some that don't make no sense

 

[Jah]

So, German with Norwegian nickname ?


If you've ever been judged for Satanism, that's probably by the very people you're trying to repel with that title.

Have you read about Thelema ?
(Which is somewhat spread within Satanic circles, but less childish in it's uproar, I think.)

 

[Minuend]

I'm male, 18 years old and a misanthrope, because human stupidity and ignorance pisses me off.

Do you hate ants for being ignorant?

Then why hate humans?

What will ESC do?

___>>FIGHT___PKMN
_____ITEM____RUN


ESC used GREETING!



It's super effective!

*Affects whole INTP room*

*INTPs escape except Cava who was trampled to death by desperate INTPs*

Has anyone else read up on all the glitches in Pokemon Reb and Blue? Freakin hilarious and some that don't make no sense

It's curious you should say that. Today in biostatistics, we were looking at different swine flu DNA sequences compared to each other, and I thought it looked awfully like Missingno.

 

[Umenneske]

So, what's so wild about you?

I'll leave that to your interpretation

*gives Ume the official greeting involving a bat*

Seriously, your homing bat will come in handy later. Treat him nicely.

Oh, thank you! I definitely will!

ESC used the Master Ball.

Wow, the Master Ball, what an honor! Or... did you multiply it?!

So, German with Norwegian nickname ?

Yep. The Name is from a pretty good song by Taake. Condition: You need to like Black Metal.

Spoiler

Taake - Umenneske - YouTube

If you've ever been judged for Satanism, that's probably by the very people you're trying to repel with that title.

Good point!

Have you read about Thelema ?
(Which is somewhat spread within Satanic circles, but less childish in it's uproar, I think.)

I read just a little bit about it and a bit of the Liber AL vel Legis, but my interest decreased quickly. There are some good points in it, but I don't really like the religious packing. Are you familiar with Thelema?

Do you hate ants for being ignorant?

Then why hate humans?

If I start hating ants, am I allowed to trample down humans?

No, seriously... I maybe formulated that too quickly. Ignorance ans stupidity are only two of various reasond humans deserve my hatred. But no, I do not hate ants. And with ignorance I meant the conscious will to ignore facts to avoid being consequent and make changes that maybe demand a little moral fiber. Something like that. Do I need to list other reasons? I don't knwo, to me they are so obvious...
But my misanthropy does not affect every single human in particular, it's more like the average image of a human being. Thats why I'm polite (mostly) until I'm sure that the individual is just another dumbfuck.

 

[Minuend]

If I start hating ants, am I allowed to trample down humans?

Well, trampling down humans are certainly merciful compared to what Cava would do to them.

I meant the conscious will to ignore facts to avoid being consequent and make changes that maybe demand a little moral fiber

Things are usually not that easy. Changes are difficult. Humans rely on stability. Even in pain there's some comfort in recognition. Change can produce greater harm, worse outcomes.

There are countless reasons why humans don't act "ideally", whatever that is. There's always a reason some resort to crime, insults or violence. It's not just a matter of choice, it's also a matter of environment and influence, to name a few.

But my misanthropy does not affect every single human in particular, it's more like the average image of a human being. Thats why I'm polite (mostly) until I'm sure that the individual is just another dumbfuck.

Some people have that attitude, just that it stretches beyond the responsible individuals to anyone. And thus they are rude to random people. And that's just one reason of a million why some stranger might treat you badly.

Regardless, when you see someone behave in a way you find repulsive, try to understand that person, what influences his thinking. You will see we are far from the rational beings we want to be.

 

[Umenneske]

@ Minuend

I already try to understand them, but most of them are still shallow dumbfucks
Yet it is interesting to observe them

 

[mainiac]

Actualy I think your writing and your english are realy good. I red your post. I respect the things that you like. However I understand none of them. They are like something from a different planet. You see I al near fifty. I grew up with a certain kind of music. I realize more than ever before just how many things have chnaged. There are whole cultures with in cultures that have sprung up thta I knwo nothing about. I am to a degree stuck in the past where most of my fond memories are. Could you explaine just what is (goth) and the fasination younger people have with it?

 

[Roran]

Goth is old by current standards, but as far as I know, it is a personality subtype associated primarily with wearing black clothing and listening to metal/hard rock/emocore/etc.

 

[Umenneske]

Thank you for praising my english. But yet it takes much too long for me to write a little text... meh

Currently I wouldn't consider myself as a goth. I really like the music of the "dark alternative scene" and yes, I mostly wear black clothes. But also dark colours! I can only guess why goth is intresting for many young people and let my experience flow into that theory.

First the general goth is an anti-mainstream looking person, which attracts teenagers who tend to be or want to be nonconformist. Sadly the nonconform attitude often confines to the superficial level, like clothing and music, which is one reason I can't relate to the goths.
I don't know how it is with the music. like in almost every genre there is good and bad goth-music. The good music is... (german word would be "geistreich") ingenious/witty/spirited/intellectually stimulating. Something you can think about and that develops your autonomous, critical and philosophical thinking (Or does this just affect me, because I had this INTP-metality inside me all the time?). Well, and if it has developed enough you realize you don't need to relate to any subculture when you like the music and the philosophy.
Goth music also introduces you to the dark side. Even if some goths complain that they are not sanatists because they listen to goth, they cant deny the satanic content in their philosophy and music (pentagrams, satan in song texts). Goth is what led me to satanism, but I questioned it and it really seemd rational and good to me (even if it goes nonconform with social conventions).

phew... I hope that helped a little...

 

[mainiac]

Let me ask you about the ( rational) part. Does this mean that you accept the dogma of main stream science? That being..If you cant test it or see, feel it..then it doesnt exist? Not saying you do just curious.

 

[Umenneske]

Uuhm... I hope I get you right.

The rationalist in me says that if you can test/see/feel it, it exists - somehow. Gravity exists. Even if it is just a law in our minds (if the whole universe only exists in our minds).
The rational philosopher in me also says that only if WE can't test/see/feel it, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, because it could be possible that it can be perceived only with technology or senses WE are not able to have (yet).

These are spontaneous ideas, it's possible that I change my mind about that in a few years. I didn't think about that very intensively by now.

 

[Minuend]

@ Minuend

I already try to understand them, but most of them are still shallow dumbfucks
Yet it is interesting to observe them

I see they are not the only ones choosing to remain ignorant.

 

[Umenneske]

I see they are not the only ones choosing to remain ignorant.

Yes, they are.

 

[alrai]

Uuhm... I hope I get you right.

The rationalist in me says that if you can test/see/feel it, it exists - somehow. Gravity exists. Even if it is just a law in our minds (if the whole universe only exists in our minds).
The rational philosopher in me also says that only if WE can't test/see/feel it, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, because it could be possible that it can be perceived only with technology or senses WE are not able to have (yet).

These are spontaneous ideas, it's possible that I change my mind about that in a few years. I didn't think about that very intensively by now.

Things don't exist because you can test/see/feel it, using your sense to identify an object is not what makes it "real". That's a much bigger debate than your oversimplification.

 

[Lobstrich]

So, German with Norwegian nickname ?

As far as I'm aware it's Danish as well. I don't know if the Swedish have the word.

 

[Lobstrich]

Things don't exist because you can test/see/feel it, using your sense to identify an object is not what makes it "real". That's a much bigger debate than your oversimplification.

Opinion vs. Opinion of you ask me. I'm siding with Umenneske mainly because of your 'I know best' attitude "That's a much bigger debate than your oversimplification"

 

[alrai]

well lobstrich you are a fraud, so it really isn't fair which side you stand for, but to elaborate to your very slow understanding that's striking similar to umenneske's(which makes sense because you are both in fact the same person), all the brain does when you use your senses i.e touch/feel/see, is merely interpret electrical impulses, so when you say "I see", your are not actually seeing the world from outside the body, but interpreting the signals from inside; that's the source of the virtual reality inspiration(development in this concept is exponential, maybe even close to completion, it would depend when the people as a whole show an interest, thus demand), people will be a able to sit in a chair, with no movement, and experience all the senses as "real" while all that's happening is your been feed electrical impulses by machines.
Do your research, which i'm sure you will, as you probably don't have anything interesting to say otherwise, or at least logical without diving into your ocean of imaginative crap over simple details.

 

[Lobstrich]

well lobstrich you are a fraud, so it really isn't fair which side you stand for, but to elaborate to your very slow understanding that's striking similar to umenneske's(which makes sense because you are both in fact the same person), all the brain does when you use your senses i.e touch/feel/see, is merely interpret electrical impulses, so when you say "I see", your are not actually seeing the world from outside the body, but interpreting the signals from inside; that's the source of the virtual reality inspiration(development in this concept is exponential, maybe even close to completion, it would depend when the people as a whole show an interest, thus demand), people will be a able to sit in a chair, with no movement, and experience all the senses as "real" while all that's happening is your been feed electrical impulses by machines.
Do your research, which i'm sure you will, as you probably don't have anything interesting to say otherwise, or at least logical without diving into your ocean of imaginative crap over simple details.

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Spoiler

Zagos offspring??

 

[Puffy]

well lobstrich you are a fraud, so it really isn't fair which side you stand for, but to elaborate to your very slow understanding that's striking similar to umenneske's(which makes sense because you are both in fact the same person), all the brain does when you use your senses i.e touch/feel/see, is merely interpret electrical impulses, so when you say "I see", your are not actually seeing the world from outside the body, but interpreting the signals from inside; that's the source of the virtual reality inspiration(development in this concept is exponential, maybe even close to completion, it would depend when the people as a whole show an interest, thus demand), people will be a able to sit in a chair, with no movement, and experience all the senses as "real" while all that's happening is your been feed electrical impulses by machines.
Do your research, which i'm sure you will, as you probably don't have anything interesting to say otherwise, or at least logical without diving into your ocean of imaginative crap over simple details.

Holy commas batman! (where the hell are the full-stops? )