Pizzabeak
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Carl Jung wrote about UFOs, or unidentified flying objects, acting as a history of it. He said it originated during the war (I), so people saw more stuff in the sky, such as planes, and it became a part of their psychology, influencing the consciousness of public expectations of invasion, to begin with. He is in no way an authority, or anything, but a good source to reference so as to have any credibility on your side as a defense.
I just presented my own perspective as an argument, and defense, based on my own UFO and alien experiences in general. I know people who said it happened to them sober or they leave out intoxications but it only ever really happened to me through meditation like techniques and the psychedelic experience. So really, it’s the psychedelic experience I’m mainly referring to as an anchor. It used to be mysterious, but, everyone feels they’re an expert on everything these days so it isn’t that much anymore. So, there’s an extensive amount to it, but it isn’t infinite and won’t take that long to explain. I don’t think any claim counts as a legit UFO abduction, per se, or alien experience. It’s just, that’s something that can literally happen.
I come from a background of science and philosophy as well as study of the mind including dreams and lucid dreams, so the experience is noticeably different and able to explained by me through that. I can tell more things apart because of my study with it.
In the end, people’s attitude about it all is petty. The point they’re trying to make has to do with superiority and the qualitative experience. DMT is the strongest psychedelic. But, people like acid and mushrooms more because you can still walk around. Psilocin is just DMT with a hydroxy group on the 4C atom. That allows it to be experience orally at an according dose of the DMT through its time span, since mushrooms last 4-6 hours. Then, LSD lasts 10-12 hours while still being related to DMT. That it’s dopaminergic as well as serotonergic can not quite explain its effect. They’re all different. DMT can also be taken orally as a hoasca such as ayahuasca, the vine of the dead/spirits/souls. It’s just DMT with a harmala alkaloid that prevents monoamine oxidase from metabolizing it so fast before the body can use it. However, it’s different from mushrooms partially because the harmines are psychoactive as well. There’s also 5-MeO-DMT and 5-OH-DMT, bufotenine, which you don’t need. Neither are really as vision inducing as the traditional psychedelics but 5-MeO-DMT still takes you to an all like realm with a godlike presence although there aren’t necessarily entities. DMT is the classic psychedelics that has entities such as machine elves and jewel like objects. The self dribbling basketball objects are the first thing you hear about when you listen to Terence or read him, and that the experience is different for everyone, although they’re just standard objects. The Fabergé egg thing makes sense to you later. When I talk about it I assume people already listened to Terence or were familiar with him, as everything he said about the experience is basically spot on. I also started off with mushrooms and mycology because of him, but he was an acid head as well, at first, and his rap makes more sense from that perspective. That is, IF LSD is used as the standard for what a psychedelic trip should be. DMT is the rarest but truest psychedelic experience. But, LSD is more mindbending because it’s like DMT except based more in reality, whereas mushrooms and DMT have a “dreamlike” quality to them with powerful closed, and open, eyes eidetic imagery. LSD and mushrooms are similar but different. If you take too much acid you won’t be able to move for hours. It also has multiple peaks so it isn’t linear or straightforward, and has a noticeable closed eye period while it’s setting in that isn’t always apparent at first. The higher doses and DMT are when you explore inner space, although DMT is beyond all. At other times your mind gets stimulated with thoughts full of implication and meaning. There’s also peyote and the psychedelic stimulants such as MDMA and MDA, which are psychedelic for some people. Datura and henbane aren’t psychedelic, but hallucinogenic, causing actual hallucinations such as formication. So the only thing that makes sense about culture is the “felt presence of immediate experience”, where people feel like they’re getting more of a deal of someone does something, such as refusing to talk to them until they’ve seen a specific film, because they’d have it in their memory as if it makes them a better person or conversationalist.
Also, thoughts on all this maximum optimization stuff? Does it really make sense to always seek out a thing that’s optimized in certain, specific ways that might not always be the intended or original thing sought?
I just presented my own perspective as an argument, and defense, based on my own UFO and alien experiences in general. I know people who said it happened to them sober or they leave out intoxications but it only ever really happened to me through meditation like techniques and the psychedelic experience. So really, it’s the psychedelic experience I’m mainly referring to as an anchor. It used to be mysterious, but, everyone feels they’re an expert on everything these days so it isn’t that much anymore. So, there’s an extensive amount to it, but it isn’t infinite and won’t take that long to explain. I don’t think any claim counts as a legit UFO abduction, per se, or alien experience. It’s just, that’s something that can literally happen.
I come from a background of science and philosophy as well as study of the mind including dreams and lucid dreams, so the experience is noticeably different and able to explained by me through that. I can tell more things apart because of my study with it.
In the end, people’s attitude about it all is petty. The point they’re trying to make has to do with superiority and the qualitative experience. DMT is the strongest psychedelic. But, people like acid and mushrooms more because you can still walk around. Psilocin is just DMT with a hydroxy group on the 4C atom. That allows it to be experience orally at an according dose of the DMT through its time span, since mushrooms last 4-6 hours. Then, LSD lasts 10-12 hours while still being related to DMT. That it’s dopaminergic as well as serotonergic can not quite explain its effect. They’re all different. DMT can also be taken orally as a hoasca such as ayahuasca, the vine of the dead/spirits/souls. It’s just DMT with a harmala alkaloid that prevents monoamine oxidase from metabolizing it so fast before the body can use it. However, it’s different from mushrooms partially because the harmines are psychoactive as well. There’s also 5-MeO-DMT and 5-OH-DMT, bufotenine, which you don’t need. Neither are really as vision inducing as the traditional psychedelics but 5-MeO-DMT still takes you to an all like realm with a godlike presence although there aren’t necessarily entities. DMT is the classic psychedelics that has entities such as machine elves and jewel like objects. The self dribbling basketball objects are the first thing you hear about when you listen to Terence or read him, and that the experience is different for everyone, although they’re just standard objects. The Fabergé egg thing makes sense to you later. When I talk about it I assume people already listened to Terence or were familiar with him, as everything he said about the experience is basically spot on. I also started off with mushrooms and mycology because of him, but he was an acid head as well, at first, and his rap makes more sense from that perspective. That is, IF LSD is used as the standard for what a psychedelic trip should be. DMT is the rarest but truest psychedelic experience. But, LSD is more mindbending because it’s like DMT except based more in reality, whereas mushrooms and DMT have a “dreamlike” quality to them with powerful closed, and open, eyes eidetic imagery. LSD and mushrooms are similar but different. If you take too much acid you won’t be able to move for hours. It also has multiple peaks so it isn’t linear or straightforward, and has a noticeable closed eye period while it’s setting in that isn’t always apparent at first. The higher doses and DMT are when you explore inner space, although DMT is beyond all. At other times your mind gets stimulated with thoughts full of implication and meaning. There’s also peyote and the psychedelic stimulants such as MDMA and MDA, which are psychedelic for some people. Datura and henbane aren’t psychedelic, but hallucinogenic, causing actual hallucinations such as formication. So the only thing that makes sense about culture is the “felt presence of immediate experience”, where people feel like they’re getting more of a deal of someone does something, such as refusing to talk to them until they’ve seen a specific film, because they’d have it in their memory as if it makes them a better person or conversationalist.
Also, thoughts on all this maximum optimization stuff? Does it really make sense to always seek out a thing that’s optimized in certain, specific ways that might not always be the intended or original thing sought?