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A Ufo perspective

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Carl Jung wrote about UFOs, or unidentified flying objects, acting as a history of it. He said it originated during the war (I), so people saw more stuff in the sky, such as planes, and it became a part of their psychology, influencing the consciousness of public expectations of invasion, to begin with. He is in no way an authority, or anything, but a good source to reference so as to have any credibility on your side as a defense.

I just presented my own perspective as an argument, and defense, based on my own UFO and alien experiences in general. I know people who said it happened to them sober or they leave out intoxications but it only ever really happened to me through meditation like techniques and the psychedelic experience. So really, it’s the psychedelic experience I’m mainly referring to as an anchor. It used to be mysterious, but, everyone feels they’re an expert on everything these days so it isn’t that much anymore. So, there’s an extensive amount to it, but it isn’t infinite and won’t take that long to explain. I don’t think any claim counts as a legit UFO abduction, per se, or alien experience. It’s just, that’s something that can literally happen.

I come from a background of science and philosophy as well as study of the mind including dreams and lucid dreams, so the experience is noticeably different and able to explained by me through that. I can tell more things apart because of my study with it.

In the end, people’s attitude about it all is petty. The point they’re trying to make has to do with superiority and the qualitative experience. DMT is the strongest psychedelic. But, people like acid and mushrooms more because you can still walk around. Psilocin is just DMT with a hydroxy group on the 4C atom. That allows it to be experience orally at an according dose of the DMT through its time span, since mushrooms last 4-6 hours. Then, LSD lasts 10-12 hours while still being related to DMT. That it’s dopaminergic as well as serotonergic can not quite explain its effect. They’re all different. DMT can also be taken orally as a hoasca such as ayahuasca, the vine of the dead/spirits/souls. It’s just DMT with a harmala alkaloid that prevents monoamine oxidase from metabolizing it so fast before the body can use it. However, it’s different from mushrooms partially because the harmines are psychoactive as well. There’s also 5-MeO-DMT and 5-OH-DMT, bufotenine, which you don’t need. Neither are really as vision inducing as the traditional psychedelics but 5-MeO-DMT still takes you to an all like realm with a godlike presence although there aren’t necessarily entities. DMT is the classic psychedelics that has entities such as machine elves and jewel like objects. The self dribbling basketball objects are the first thing you hear about when you listen to Terence or read him, and that the experience is different for everyone, although they’re just standard objects. The Fabergé egg thing makes sense to you later. When I talk about it I assume people already listened to Terence or were familiar with him, as everything he said about the experience is basically spot on. I also started off with mushrooms and mycology because of him, but he was an acid head as well, at first, and his rap makes more sense from that perspective. That is, IF LSD is used as the standard for what a psychedelic trip should be. DMT is the rarest but truest psychedelic experience. But, LSD is more mindbending because it’s like DMT except based more in reality, whereas mushrooms and DMT have a “dreamlike” quality to them with powerful closed, and open, eyes eidetic imagery. LSD and mushrooms are similar but different. If you take too much acid you won’t be able to move for hours. It also has multiple peaks so it isn’t linear or straightforward, and has a noticeable closed eye period while it’s setting in that isn’t always apparent at first. The higher doses and DMT are when you explore inner space, although DMT is beyond all. At other times your mind gets stimulated with thoughts full of implication and meaning. There’s also peyote and the psychedelic stimulants such as MDMA and MDA, which are psychedelic for some people. Datura and henbane aren’t psychedelic, but hallucinogenic, causing actual hallucinations such as formication. So the only thing that makes sense about culture is the “felt presence of immediate experience”, where people feel like they’re getting more of a deal of someone does something, such as refusing to talk to them until they’ve seen a specific film, because they’d have it in their memory as if it makes them a better person or conversationalist.

Also, thoughts on all this maximum optimization stuff? Does it really make sense to always seek out a thing that’s optimized in certain, specific ways that might not always be the intended or original thing sought?
 

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Terence McKenna said ayahuasca doesn’t go as deep as a smoked DMT experience, which might be why he and Dennis used it so many times if it was easier to bear on their consciousness.
 

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Also, thoughts on all this maximum optimization stuff? Does it really make sense to always seek out a thing that’s optimized in certain, specific ways that might not always be the intended or original thing sought?
This is also the idolatry thing, where people look at who influenced you or what you’re a fan of, then seek out those people and content creators instead since they might have what you want, which would be the object the people you aimed to attract guess they want. Hence, that logic.
 

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Girls like when there’s a connection. Hence, people don’t like “small talk”. Through that, someone can say looks don’t matter and it might mostly be personality or how much money you have. Sense of humor matters too so that basically looks don’t matter, because it’s about a connection, money, a joke, skin color, and personality. If not, then it’s that looks matter either way, so it’s basically racism.

Then, people use that as an excuse for whatever.
 

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*acausal
 

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I fucking hate saying stuff like “mushrooms are as potent as the according dose of DMT with the mushrooms’ time span” because no one gets it.

It means that these doses of mushrooms people are taking are not high enough for it to be equal to what DMT did and does.
 

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It’s an a priori fact that DMT aid the strongest psychedelic. When you do I think you go somewhere else.

People like acid and mushrooms more than DMT or ayahuasca because you can still walk around.

Something like ibogaine is to cure heroin addiction and it isn’t for recreation.
 

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Girls like when there’s a connection. Hence, people don’t like “small talk”. Through that, someone can say looks don’t matter and it might mostly be personality or how much money you have. Sense of humor matters too so that basically looks don’t matter, because it’s about a connection, money, a joke, skin color, and personality. If not, then it’s that looks matter either way, so it’s basically racism.

Then, people use that as an excuse for whatever.
I fucking hate saying stuff like “mushrooms are as potent as the according dose of DMT with the mushrooms’ time span” because no one gets it.

It means that these doses of mushrooms people are taking are not high enough for it to be equal to what DMT did and does.
It’s an a priori fact that DMT aid the strongest psychedelic. When you do I think you go somewhere else.

People like acid and mushrooms more than DMT or ayahuasca because you can still walk around.

Something like ibogaine is to cure heroin addiction and it isn’t for recreation.

are you talking about girls or mushrooms
 

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*is
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i was expecting something else

i wanted to mention how i used to think aliens were cool but really unlikely but with the release of the bob lazar documentary on netflix i became woke.jk

i think the pyramids coordinates being the same number for the speed of light is quite smth tho.
 

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i think the pyramids coordinates being the same number for the speed of light is quite smth tho.
i dno about the speed of light thing but if you are generally interested in the mysterious shit about the pyramids and other ancient sites i recommend the work of graham hancock and randall carlson. joe rogan has a bunch of interviews with them on yt
 
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