Your favorite MBTI type

[saucer]

Ok so you discovered you're INTP but you've been around long enough to interact with other types on other forums due to your curiosity. What's your favorite of them all?

Me, it's definitely INTJ types. The best of them are jaw-dropping badass mofos. I spent some time on an INTJ forum (claiming myself as a fellow INTJer if I remember correctly) and absolutely busted my brain EVERY TIME to come up with anything so well communicated, so intricate & deeply considered as what I ever read anywhere else & in any other readable medium.

Really, any INTJ types who come to an INTP forum may honestly be INTJ but make no mistake that their judgmental expressions alone are just the tip of the iceberg & it's VERY likely if they stick around they aren't really INTJ.

Sorry, INTJers here. I really don't know why you bother interacting with the INTP folks here at all especially considering what you're missing.

If I had enough endurance for my deception on the INTJ forum -- faking it till I made it -- I'd have stayed there. But I didn't & both the preparation work to say anything plus having to "specialize" due to time constraints wasn't me at all. My natural inclination to "skate" all over everything & assume other readers would be making their own inferences & drawing their own associations had to be held in check at all times. It was exhausting & I felt like I had to drag chains of explicit yet intricate intellectual details behind me everywhere I shared something.

And yeah, for the real INTJ types I can't see them following anything we say here without at minimum concluding we're all lazy, don't do the work needed to make intelligent assertions, and can't be trusted at all to complete even the simplest of chores competently. Can't see them not getting frustrated quick & leaving FAST.

I certainly would. But I'm not one of them.

 

[Bluehalite]

Honestly, INTP is my favorite.

I was once on a highly sensitive forum where there were a LOT of INFP and INFJ types, where the way they interact is one person states something as a means to influence you and if you don't agree with them, you are blasted for it. Here you can discuss things and share your individual truth without being blasted so much. So, there is something philosophically more mature about INTP discussions. Still it was fun to attempt to try to understand INFP worlds and I could relate to certain types of sensitivities, such as environmental, intuitive, and some psychic clairvoyance, etc.

If you don't naturally understand ego/drama/feeler stuff, you like people to say what they mean and mean what they say.

An introvert nod of respect is quiet, and deep and I don't know of anything more comforting and that can come from any of the introvert types.

What I love about INTP is you can stand for your self, be a warrior in your truth and not ashamed of it or argue too much since its ok to be different. If you can be real, you are self actualizing and validating to your world.

The type that drives me crazy fast is ESFJ, because they want you to agree and if you speak your truth, you are not accepted. Forget it, thats harsh and toxic. Its probably what causes others to be addicts and have real issues. Compassion.

 

[Black Rose]

Most INTJ are actually enneagram 8 or ISTJ.

The reason people view them as the most intelligent is that most INTJ have huge logical egos. That means they focus so much on "Truth" that they cannot stand people not seeing things as they see them. So to protect themselves they dismantle all things not in accordance with the ontology of how they see the world.

Most "INTJ" need to know that they are in control. This leads to the projection that they must understand reality better than anyone else. And that they must use this knowledge against any opponent of them.

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I have not been in control for a long, long time. I went soft. My ego was broken.

I was all "INFJ" and such. - But I realized what the difference between Fi and Fe was.

And "INFP" seemed plausible. On the inside not outside.

INTP's I think have the most stability emotionally. Because they have no intellectual impairments they can think without stress and have no problems outside of social issues. It is very much so that Ti needs nothing to sustain itself.

INTJ need to see results. They want their ideas to become real.

I have so many ideas that have not become real. makes me sad.

But I store them all in files and folders, I never give up on an idea.

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INTJ have plans that go into years and decades.

I have studied IQ and as such I have a grasp on what it is:

A central unit coordinates everything. Left and right side of the brain.

The front is the controller. The back is perceptual.

A loop creates circular causality between them.

Effectually what pulls it all together is metacognition.

Not just error correction but understanding how everything works together.

Non-linear. parrellel and topological.

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People do not like my ideas. So I do not tell people my ideas unless they will be non-judgmental about it. INTP ideas are different because they are about systems. my ideas are about something less symmetrical. ISTJ will tell you that you have no empirical foundations. INFJ will probably tell you your dark secrets and INFP will tell you everything will be ok.

My mother was ISFJ. She wanted to be a housewife. But got divorced.
She really did not talk to me about anything and today she does not care about my ideas, she tells me that they are too hard to understand.

My brother is ESTJ and my aunt is ESFJ and my sister is ESFP.

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I do not know which type is my favorite. I just know that some people care more than others that some people are less confronting than others and that some can understand me better than others. All people have positive and negative qualities and it depends on how they treat others and if they have a pure heart.

 

[Bluehalite]

Its interesting you mentioned the pure heart as I've heard that before from an INTJ, as if they can see it in others and seek that. There is no malice in the pure of heart.

What kinds of plans and can you still do any of your plans? I know not all will work, but maybe one or two? Anyway, cool that you have a folder for your ideas! Yes, good to soften the ego/mind to allow deeper receptivity.

Anyway, Fi and Fe, I care about others in the physical sense, but I don't want to be responsable for emotional aspects as I think we have to be responsable for our own emotions and they are mostly about hormones anyway and should be fixed with nutrients if possible. I don't love drama and hysteria, its hard for me to see it in myself, and its likely there once in a while, busy mornings or social obligations bring the anxieties out more, so I avoid that.

I find its true, if you say good morning to birds and squirrels, they really hear the interaction you are creating, and its inclusive and welcoming. I think people are the same! There really is no distance between you and your source, until you move apart. So stillness, listen, breathe, speak your truth.

 

[Black Rose]

What kinds of plans and can you still do any of your plans?

College was not part of what I wanted to do. But I did have the idea of creating smart computer avatars. I read Kurzweil's books and Jeff Hawkins's book and so I decided that a.i. was my life goal. That was when I was 17. - Really all I want to do is play games but I have no money, so I decided that I would do things requiring no money like reading books and learning things like science and math. But it was not as simple as I thought. I came to conclude that I need people to teach me the simple stuff but in order to do so I would need to start over from the beginning. Wikipedia has no learning courses that are beginner-level. They are all for people who are experts. That situation made it clear that on my own I had no choice but to wait until Google was smart enough to tell me the answers to my questions. That was 10 years ago.

I think that because I could not solve certain problems I worked too hard and suffered burnout. The symmetry of my mental abilities makes it so that I cannot just learn things by memorization. I need examples of things. One thing I still do not understand is how pie is calculated. pie = circumference/diameter. but where does the circumference come from? The teachers did not know. Why do pixels have colors? I asked when 12, the teacher said ones and zeros. But I learned that phosphorus releases photons when hit with electrons.

People do not know the basics of anything so they cannot teach kids the basics of anything. I cannot do hard problems because all I get are the results without any work done and in class, they always said to show your work.

I am slightly above average IQ, just not that much, maybe 130 or slightly higher in college, but its likely not that now due to sleep apnea. I should take another test, but I'm afraid to see what it is now.

As I get older it keeps getting lower and lower.

age 12 it was 125
age 21 it was 108
age 29 it was 113
age 33 it was 103

But it is simple: the test lie, a lot.

Because they were made based not on neuroscience but on unrepresentative statistical samples. Mostly fluid intelligence and crystallized intelligence are not the same. Social intelligence is not measured and emotional intelligence is not measured. The tests make no difference between abstract and concrete thinking styles. I have worked out that most of the intelligence is done in the subconscious. And this is where patterns are perceived.

Basically, IQ measures what you can hold in memory at one time.
It is the retention and manipulation of a span of awareness.
A span of awareness is a compare and contrast function.
This function allows new ideas to be generated internally.
But the IQ tests is about the ideas on the outside,
and how to use the rules they give you to get a "correct" answer.

Rules are important when understanding reality so the tests are designed to make it find those people who can handle more rules than others can. If a collection of rules works then that is intelligence because the brain has to go through all the rules at the same time to find the rule necessary to solve the problem.

I have figured out that the number of rules can be quantized given a particular brain region working with another brain region. There are 180 regions of the brain.

An IQ of 130 can do 169 rules a second. In the subconscious.

Anyway, Fi and Fe, I care about others in the physical sense, I like to take care of the food, touch, aspects, but awkward with the emotional needs, I try, but its not natural. So I'm probably more the introverted Fi version if that, not sure.

Seeing as my mother is Fe. The difference between them is that Fe needs to act on things. Fi can settle on things, basically if I feel something I must suppress it to not act, Fe acts on what is seemingly a selfless character. That means when we feel nothing as Fi we do nothing. Fe does something when that something is about a dutty. Passion and compassion. So when we do things Fi needs to feel an energy inside. Fe feels becomes like the other person in that they have a sense of that person and need that person to become what that person is. Fi is more like an example of inner self-antagonism.

If someone is angry at me I am scared or angry back.
I do not want their feelings to infect me.
But because I hold back no one knows.

Fe is more like "What do I do to make them less angry?" The selflessness is that they feel nothing but either say that I should become angrier or less angry depending on what they think of me. If they do not like me they will not care. Sometimes I am mad because people are happy because I hate emotional people because emotional people do not care about how they affect others with their emotions. But my mom does not care if I am angry or sad or happy. She ignores me. And that also makes me angry because people like that have either nothing inside them because of trauma or are secretly thinking mean thoughts about me without telling me. I am very sensitive to people thinking things about me and about others. I see the sneer on their faces even through the internet. I suppose that Fe does not care about what others think and are more mentally stable for it. But Fi has this problem where they need to get back at people. And I constantly fight myself not to let that happen. So I never blame others so much as myself and I have anxiety and depression because of it.

 

[Bluehalite]

My Dad was ISFJ, and true about the sense of duty, almost at Mother Teresa level. Some of the value driven side of that is superstition.

But these beliefs seem to carry a charge, a lot like the negative energy you might feel from people, so I think peoples feelings can and do carry charges that affect us. So shielding is important! We have to shield against those things. Ok, I will think more about all of this, and send good vibes!

Well, its the fear factor, spirits probably thrive on it. So, having an imaginary auric space around you that is protective will help shield that so you are invisible more or less. Anyway, the ISFJ has value feelings that are not easily understood unless you have a lot of background as to why, and they don't always talk about it! Mysterious.

Heres an article about Pali Lookout, and some superstitions around it. Dad told me stories about never carrying pork near Pali Lookout, they tried it as teens and their car did stall out.
https://www.honolulumagazine.com/fr...lling-ghost-stories-from-nuuanu-pali-lookout/

Here is one about some other superstitions in Hawaii:

7 Hawaiian Legends Not To Be Ignored

7 Hawaiian Legends Not To Be Ignored

www.huffpost.com

Time for some space clearing, for a large drink of water, and let things go. Enjoy this moment for all its worth.

 

[Drvladivostok]

If I had to choose an alternative its either ESTP or ENTJ.

I still would prefer to be an INTP because I think that the ability to see and reflect things impartially, and have all the attributes to see what is the nearest perspective to the truth is an invaluable ability, even if it comes with some sacrifices when out of its element.

The other side of coin maybe interesting; where you put the concept of objective truth asside, or even better, not be cognizant of them, and be satisfied or even requiring a hedonic life accumulating all things that make your lizard brain go nuts, I've experience jolts of these feelings, its like being in the Garden of Eden with rivers of Alcohol and virgins fairy skinny dipping here and there (No it wasn't drugs).

But just as always, the feeling is like an Alcohol in a pan, once they disintegrate the burden of existance comes back. I want the ability to feel that way for the rest of my life, Some time ago I watched an MMA fight, the rush of crowd cheering, yelling, the adrenaline, its almost like a religious experience, but for some reason I can't get as hyped as them, once its all over, its over. I want to try that jolt of adrenaline that makes my brain go apeshit.

It might be stupid, but you can't deny the appeal.

 

[ZenRaiden]

Generally in real life, Id say whether I like or dislike someone has less to do with type, but more with circumstances, age, and mutual understanding of one another.
Age being least important factor.
Communication style being a factor though not always.
Also depends, are you interacting with them at work or at a party, or at a bus stop.

 

[sushi]

someone similar to me or relatable= favorite type or personality

somone alien or least understand, or someone that i detest = least favorite personality

intj often confuse short term with long term, anyway have a life strategy but be flexible.

 

[Puffy]

MBTI isn't a factor in whether I like or get on with someone. More important that they're fun to be around and/or have similar interests.

 

[IlanaFischer]

I once got really into exploring different personality types and took a test on personality-type.com. My curiosity led me to some INTJ forums, and wow, their level of detail and depth in discussions was incredible. It felt like trying to keep up with a super high-speed train!

I get what you mean about the challenge of trying to keep up with their standards. When I tried engaging in an INTJ space, I had to put in a lot more effort to keep up with their level of precision and thoughtfulness. It was exhausting but also really eye-opening.

For me, interacting with different types has been a learning experience, and I appreciate the different perspectives everyone brings. Even if it’s challenging, it’s all part of the fun of exploring personality types.