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Sarcastasaur

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I am not on any medication, and I have not been diagnosed with any mental health illness or anything like that, but I do have ADHD. I am male, 17, currently feeling pretty normal.

I usually score a pretty even split of ENFP, ENTP, INTP, and INFP. There is a very occasional INTJ, but that's too minimal to really register.

I think my most important value is a fierce sense of individualism that rests deep inside me. I don't want to be confused with anyone else. I don't want to be another face in the crowd. I have my OWN thoughts, my OWN feelings, and I want those to be recognized as distinct from everyone else. Some other big ones would be the avoidance of ignorance, the pursuit of artistic fulfillment and the evasion of compromising that integrity, and standing up to bullies.

These aren't logical positions that could be swayed by evidence. They're pretty much stuck with me.

The activity that energizes me the most is doing comedy. It's downright therapeutic for me. I always feel so fulfilled when I'm through with it, and I just want to run around and talk to other people about it. A close runner-up would be listening to excellent music, which has much of the same effect, but more introspective.

The activity that drains me the most is working. I'm a cashier, and it's the most boring, samey job of all time. I always feel dead tired when I'm off and my brain doesn't function normally and I feel dumber and less imaginative.

I believe I am an extrovert. I'm very, very close to the division, but the bottom line is that I always feel better when I'm around other people and the more I'm alone, the more down on myself I feel. Despite this, I very much adore my alone time. That's when I read, listen to music, etc.

I would say that my greatest strength is my gift for gab. I can talk forever about a lot of stuff, and I kind of have this bubbly attitude or charisma about me that I can make other people listen and laugh. I love telling stories, and I love having that audience. I always feel triumphant after I've had a good conversation with someone else, and I like making sad people feel better. My biggest weakness is EASILY my love of offending people. My sense of humor can get very dark and ironic-- and on top of that, more cerebral than a lot of people can handle. When someone gets pissed off at a joke I make, I consider that their "button" and will continue to push that button until they are too infuriated to engage me in conversation anymore. At that point I will use logic to decimate their stupidity. Shut up.

I tend to get stressed out very easily over the tiniest details. I get very snappy and sarcastic and I would prefer to be left alone to listen to my music. Occasionally I will have an emotional breakdown over things that don't matter in the least. The flat-out most EMBARRASSING time this has ever happened was when I hadn't eaten in almost 48 hours, went to grab a Hot Pocket, found that someone had eaten the last one, and I swear I almost started to cry. I realize EXACTLY how stupid that sounds. AT THE TIME I was kicking myself mentally because I realized I was being so stupid, but I felt like I had no control over my emotions.

I don't have a "soft spot" about myself. Anything could and should be mocked. I mock everything about everyone else as well. It's only fair. HOWEVER, if I see someone deliberately trying to make someone else feel bad about themselves, I jump in. I don't do this out of like a "White Knight"/defender of the underdog sense of faux-heroism. It's just that when somebody else feels bad, I immediately and instinctively feel very sorry for them, no matter who they are. I feel bad for everyone, and try to find something nice about everyone. So when I see someone being a flat-out dick to someone else, I can't abide it. The thing that usually gets the most of my ire is homophobia, which has long pissed me off, and racism and sexism don't really exist too much in my school/workplace. A friend of mine was pushed down the stairs for being gay, among other things. I don't understand how humans can be that flat-out mean to people to their faces.

Most of my ideas and thoughts are centered around writing my comedy, music, film, television, and girls. Sometimes school slips in there as well but not too often. I write a lot of narrative and I like constructing elaborate characters and worlds in my head to base the plots around, and this manifests itself either in cartoony doodles or random notebook scribblings. I'm also a comedy nerd prone to obsessions with things like Mr. Show and You Made It Weird. Without music, I honestly would not be alive. Hardcore, emo, hip-hop, indie, whatever-- it all means so much to me and I devote so much of my time to it it's not even funny. As for film and TV, I can't even imagine my life without that stimulus, if that gives away anything. It needs to be in the background at all times. I soak this stuff up. It creates a mash of influences and buzzing in my head. Girls? Well, you know the drill. I usually tend to think more about my relationship with the girl than the girl herself (ie, looks; I focus more on how our personalities work together).

I am fairly certain at this point I am ENXP. Generally I am confused about the Fi/Fe/Ti/Te axis. I identify with the Fi non-conformist streak, but I think there is a point where personal values become irrational and cruel (ie, the Westboro Baptist Church is full of Fi users). I also identify with the need for external validation of values that comes with Fe, but not the general "the majority makes the correct decision" attitude. I also tend to think out loud and implement ideas (Te), but I don't plan ahead and I am very disorganized. I have a massive web of internal thoughts as well and like to analyze multiple options, but I'm not a quiet discussion type of person and I don't plan or think very much before taking action.

Extra facts: As a kid I was just like Calvin from Calvin & Hobbes, and throughout my school career I have been the spitting image of Seth Cohen from the OC (also I just admitted I like the OC). Make of this what you will.

My favorite bands right now are the Replacements, Husker Du, Black Flag, Rites of Spring, and Latterman. I prefer to listen to music I can connect with emotionally and cannot look at it objectively (ie, musicianship, quality of songwriting, etc).

I like to play Devil's Advocate and mess with people. I'm good at debating and "trolling" people (for lack of a better term). I don't care too much about their personal values, and if I think you're deplorable (homophobic, racist, sexist, creepy with underage girls) I will fuck with you twenty times harder. At the same time, I love dark, cerebral, ironic comedy, and often pretend to be a horrible person myself for satirical effect.

My own stand-up is very confessional in nature, almost like I'm just a really funny guy in group therapy. The truth is I use comedy to hide my emotions. People assume I have a thick skin, but I don't. I'm just using comedy to cover it up. I tend to use humor as a coping mechanism rather than an escape.

My improv and sketch work is spiraling, absurdist, surreal, and strange. Don't worry too much about it. I DO use this as an escape, for the record.

My family puts the "fun" in dysfunctional, but I love them. I have a soft spot for animals. Much like Holden Caulfield, I feel sorry for everyone even if I don't particularly like them. I've never had a girlfriend. I'm really awkward and self-deprecating, but I have this quirkiness/charisma/bubbliness/charm about me that I'm friends with a WIDE variety of people, though there's only a small few I like to hang out with regularly.

I could never sit still, pay attention, or follow directions in school. I have always led with Ne and I exercise it at nearly every opportunity I can. I can be very dry and sarcastic and intellectual with one group of friends and turn into a six-year-old with the other, shocking crossover friends.

I excel in writing and higher-level math, but more practical math, science, and grammar elude me. I got a 2060 out of 2400 on my SATs the first try without studying though.

I have a large "fuck you" vibe but I hate being a bully. I tend to feel guilty about things that aren't even my fault, and I am a compulsive apologizer.

I'm a good liar/actor but I never pursued theatre. It's important to note that my attention span is so low and my emotions so intense that I can be in love with anyone/anything, not think about anything else for days, then move on like nothing ever happened.

I think that's about it. MBTI and Enneagram both welcome. Thank you!
 

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You strike me as ENFJ/ENFP. However you look at it, MBTI , this is not defining, it can help visualise some awarness concepts you may be interested or indulge in.
 

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You're eerily similar to a very close friend of mine who is an ENFJ. Really, really similar. The passion for (dark) comedy, the music, late blooming re: women, etc. I do think you exhibit more ENFP traits though, especially Ne. My ENFJ friend admits that he is very materialistic (tertiary Se), and that seems absent in your description. His wittiness can also be ascribed to Fe motivations of making everyone laugh for its own sake while you seem to have ideals behind your usage of comedy (Ne with with Fi motives).

Not clear cut, but I think the case for ENFP is strong, especially when I compare your self-description to my friend.

Also Calvin is likely an Fi-user. Probably ENFP as well.
 
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fierce sense of individualism

The activity that drains me the most is working.

I can talk forever about a lot of stuff

I love having that audience.

will continue to push that button until they are too infuriated to engage me in conversation anymore. At that point I will use logic to decimate their stupidity. Shut up.

I tend to get stressed out very easily over the tiniest details.

when I hadn't eaten in almost 48 hours

I felt like I had no control over my emotions.

Anything could and should be mocked.

when I see someone being a flat-out dick to someone else, I can't abide it.

Without music, I honestly would not be alive.

I can't even imagine my life without that stimulus, if that gives away anything. It needs to be in the background at all times.

I also tend to think out loud and implement ideas

I don't plan ahead and I am very disorganized.

I have a massive web of internal thoughts as well and like to analyze multiple options

I don't plan or think very much before taking action.

I prefer to listen to music I can connect with emotionally and cannot look at it objectively

I like to play Devil's Advocate

I'm good at debating and "trolling" people

I don't care too much about their personal values

My own stand-up is very confessional in nature.

I've never had a girlfriend.

I could never sit still, pay attention, or follow directions in school.

more practical math, science, and grammar elude me.

I got a 2060 out of 2400 on my SATs the first try without studying though.

I have a large "fuck you" vibe but I hate being a bully.

It's important to note that my attention span is so low and my emotions so intense that I can be in love with anyone/anything
What are your results here?: http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm

My current operational assumption is ENTP enneagram type 4. (*EDIT: Likely 4w5 if true, because you're 17 and Ti generally isn't expected to have sufficiently developed in an ENTP at that point; TimeAsylums could/should verify this [No, not citing him as an example. :p])

Are you using a Ne-Te loop or a Ne-Fe loop?

http://personalitycafe.com/articles/25205-dominant-tertiary-loops-common-personality-disorders.html
ENTP/ESFJ: Ne/Fe or Fe/Ne--Narcissistic Personality Disorder. This type often behaves impulsively and manipulatively, needing constant approval and admiration from others, running around investing in new thing after new thing but never developing the self-confidence of a strong subjective perspective. Fe used negatively may use its awareness of the cultural standards of others to intentionally offend or upset them, in order to service Ne's curiosity about the patterns in their responses. If Ti/Si were working properly, it would give the user a balancing sense of personal, subjective importance and free him of his dependence upon the adulation and unconditional acceptance of others. (Horrible example: Patrick Bateman from American Psycho.)
ENFP/ESTJ: Ne/Te or Te/Ne--Borderline Personality Disorder. The ENFP I described above may have been one of these types. They simultaneously desire to control and dazzle others with their extraordinary leadership and grandiose performances. For the ENFP, this tends to take the form of insisting on consistent, scheduled attention from others for his/her artistic or creative gifts, while for the ESTJ it tends to manifest itself in terms of indignation when others refuse to follow every detail of the user's "visionary" leadership style. This combination, ironically, makes the user extremely dependent upon others for meaning, never really finding a sense of internal balance, no matter how hard he works to create and delegate. While Te leads these types to desire structure and discipline, Ne continually contradicts it by insisting on impulsive displays of creative freedom. Often self-denigrating over the inability to control Ne's impulsive explorations, Te will go to any lengths to keep the user in a position of power and influence, where others must defer to his authority. If Fi/Si were doing its job, these types would recognize that what they're looking for cannot be found outside themselves--they must learn to sometimes live for themselves and only themselves, and forget about external results for a moment.
You're eerily similar to a very close friend of mine who is an ENFJ. Really, really similar. The passion for (dark) comedy, the music, late blooming re: women, etc. I do think you exhibit more ENFP traits though, especially Ne.
ENFJ Fe vibe = Ne-Fe loop?
Personalitycafe Link said:
For example: A certain user on typologycentral agonized over her type for months, creating numerous long threads and repeatedly changing her mind. My initial impression was ENFP, which I shared but which she promptly rejected. After reading about function attitudes she described Te and Ne as her most prominent functions--at this point I changed my guess to ESTJ, which may seem like a bizarre jump if you don't understand dom/tert loop functions, but it's really not:

ENFP: Ne (Fi) Te Si

ESTJ: Te (Si) Ne Fi

So if you pick up mainly Ne and Te in someone, don't presume that he's an NT type--in fact, he's probably not. Depending on which is dominant, he is most likely either ENFP (Ne+Te with poor Fi) or ESTJ (Te+Ne with poor Si).
Following ^this logic, Ne and Fe would lead to ENTP. :storks:
 

Sarcastasaur

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Keys2Cognition Test:
Se: 26, average use
Si: 24, limited use
Ne: 48.3, excellent use
Ni: 10.9, unused
Te: 23.9, limited use
Ti: 25, average use
Fe: 32, good use
Fi: 50.3, excellent use

Most likely type: ENFP, followed by INFP
 
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Keys2Cognition Test:
Se: 26, average use
Si: 24, limited use
Ne: 48.3, excellent use
Ni: 10.9, unused
Te: 23.9, limited use
Ti: 25, average use
Fe: 32, good use
Fi: 50.3, excellent use

Most likely type: ENFP, followed by INFP
So:

Ne>Ni --> Ne-Si,
Fi>Fe>Ti>Te --> I think we have a winner (ENFP). :D

During my period of self-questioning, mine were:

Ne>Ti>Ni>Te>Fe=Fi>Se=Si

(The use of the operational ENTP enneagram 4 may or may not have been the projected narcissism described in the Personalitycafe quote :cat:)
 
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