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Steve Wilson/Storm Corrosion

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Really interested in finding out whether fellow INTPs are naturally attracted to the work of Steven Wilson, Porcupine Tree, and his various side projects, like Blackfield...

I kinda feel that this particular composer/instrumentalist could be an INTP himself...Also, I'd like know what fans think of the abrupt change in musical direction over the last couple of recordings...How did you receive Grace For Drowning, Storm Corrosion...and even the most recent Opeth outing?
 

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I am a big fan of his work. He may be an INTP but I am awful at typing people. I guess you can say that his music is appealing to INTPs, because of it's eccentricity, complexity, and lyrical matter.

My top PT albums might be In Absentia, Fear of Blank Planet, Stupid Dream and Sky Moves Sideways.

However, I think I like Grace For Drowning more than all of those. That album just really does it for me. Especially Raider II, that song is immense....it sounds almost like a modern King Crimson's Lizard. I didnt see it as a huge departure in sound for him, as I thought GFD sounded more like older PT albums than the newer ones. I'm more into the prog elements of his music than his hard rock and metal stuff(that newer PT used alot more of)

Opeth's Heritage on the other hand, has been my favorite album for the past 9 months. This album was very off-putting for me at first, because I missed the death metal elements they are known for. But that album is really fuckin good in my opinion. I think Mikael Akerfeldt to me really seems like an INTP. He is very laid back and "cool", with a dry witty sense of humor. Besides, I've always felt that the dynamics and duality in Opeth's music fit my personality and taste to a T.

Still working on getting into that Storm Corrosion(The Wilson/Akerfeldt collaboration). I think it is a great record, really dark and weird(usually my thing) but this album hasnt grabbed me like I hoped. I dig Storm Corrosion, Happy, and Ljudet Innan alot, but the other 3 tracks not as much. It was still very interesting to hear their styles combined, Wilson's keys and Mikes guitar go perfect together. These 3 albums do go great together played in sequence. I'm a sucker for that vintage analog sound(with the modern touch) and I literally cum whenever I hear hammond organs.
 

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I've heard Deadwing, Fear of a Blank Planet and a few other things (his work with Opeth, etc.) I used to listen to him a lot a few years back but havn't for a while. I might check out a few of the above on youtube shortly though. :p

I really love his track 'Buying New Soul', that pops up on a lot of my playlists still: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9OLIzr66us

I find typing to be a bit difficult, he's certainly a reflective guy and I appreciate what he puts into his music, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's Ti-Ne.
 

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I am a big fan of his work. He may be an INTP but I am awful at typing people. I guess you can say that his music is appealing to INTPs, because of it's eccentricity, complexity, and lyrical matter.

My top PT albums might be In Absentia, Fear of Blank Planet, Stupid Dream and Sky Moves Sideways.

However, I think I like Grace For Drowning more than all of those. That album just really does it for me. Especially Raider II, that song is immense....it sounds almost like a modern King Crimson's Lizard. I didnt see it as a huge departure in sound for him, as I thought GFD sounded more like older PT albums than the newer ones. I'm more into the prog elements of his music than his hard rock and metal stuff(that newer PT used alot more of)

Opeth's Heritage on the other hand, has been my favorite album for the past 9 months. This album was very off-putting for me at first, because I missed the death metal elements they are known for. But that album is really fuckin good in my opinion. I think Mikael Akerfeldt to me really seems like an INTP. He is very laid back and "cool", with a dry witty sense of humor. Besides, I've always felt that the dynamics and duality in Opeth's music fit my personality and taste to a T.

Still working on getting into that Storm Corrosion(The Wilson/Akerfeldt collaboration). I think it is a great record, really dark and weird(usually my thing) but this album hasnt grabbed me like I hoped. I dig Storm Corrosion, Happy, and Ljudet Innan alot, but the other 3 tracks not as much. It was still very interesting to hear their styles combined, Wilson's keys and Mikes guitar go perfect together. These 3 albums do go great together played in sequence. I'm a sucker for that vintage analog sound(with the modern touch) and I literally cum whenever I hear hammond organs.

I think that his music is tailor made for the INTP, because, at least the online profiles say that we are drawn to complex and melancholy music...Wilson's music is saturated with subtly nuanced complexity, as well as being very cerebral and mournful/dismal...

At present, my 2 favs are the all-out Prog Rocker, Fear of a Blank Planet...and, the much mellower, mellotron-saturated - Signify...It took me a while to appreciate the change in direction found on his first solo outing...And, I truly did not know what to make of what was recently offered to us on Grace For Drowning...

Talk about 'subtle nuance'....The material on both GFD discs are full of fine shades and flavors weaving in and out of each other...Aural architecture at its finest...Sounds like Stevey was listening to tons of King Crimson 'fore entering the studio that month.

I'm used to it, as well as The Incident, by now...Love those albums for what they are...the product of an ever-evolving musical mind...And, unlike most other Opeth fans, I did take to the new direction pretty quickly...I don't think that Aekerfeldt should stay within that style for more than just this one album...But, I'm very familiar with 1970's Progressive Rock, and the new Opeth album fits in with that style pretty comfortably...

I don't think that either gentleman invested enough time and effort in the Storm Corrosion collaboration...I was really expecting a Prog Metal Supergroup-type of monumental behemoth...But, to go with the direction they settled on, I think they should have beefed up the compositions a tad more...There's not enough there to make you want to keep on coming back...The first track has the harmonic blending of the two voices, and that's very, very cool...But, there should just be more things going on to keep it interesting overall.

I've seen Porcupine Tree live once, at Radio City Music Hall...But, have yet to see Opeth...Missed out when they wer playing with Mastodon...Shite!
 

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Porcupine Tree has been my favorite band for a long time. I can identify very much with a lot of it.
I recently discovered Bass Communion, Wilson's personal ambient project, which is also absolutely incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMBTDMeIB-8&hd=1

I'm somewhat certain Wilson is an INTP. I'm not really a fan of Blackfield or some of the things he's done along those lines, because they just seem boring and not particularly inspired by comparison.
I also find Opeth to be extremely dull, so I don't share his enthusiasm for them. I find their music is just so gray, so lifeless and somehow tiring, I can't get into it. It feels like it drags along without creating any energy of its own.
 

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Porcupine Tree has been my favorite band for a long time. I can identify very much with a lot of it.
I recently discovered Bass Communion, Wilson's personal ambient project, which is also absolutely incredible.

I'm somewhat certain Wilson is an INTP. I'm not really a fan of Blackfield or some of the things he's done along those lines, because they just seem boring and not particularly inspired by comparison.
I also find Opeth to be extremely dull, so I don't share his enthusiasm for them. I find their music is just so gray, so lifeless and somehow tiring, I can't get into it. It feels like it drags along without creating any energy of its own.

As far as I understand it, Blackfield is mostly the creative effort of Aviv Geffen...Wilson provides some additional writing, vocals, instrumentation, and definitely much production value...To assign credits, I guess it would depend on which song we're talking about...I think the first two Blackfield outings are absolutely great...I DETEST popular music...And, with Blackfield, you get a CLASSY version of mainstream songwriting...In fact, the band might be the best way to introduce the average, radio-influenced mind to the music of Steven Wilson...


I don't understand or agree with your appraisal of OPETH...I will say that they took me so much longer to 'get' than many other bands...But, admittedly, that was mostly a failure on my part...The band integrates some really diverse, and extremely disparate elements into their formula...At first, the amalgam didn't really make sense to me...The parts didn't seem to gel...Now, after much repeat exposure, the parts gel just fine...OPETH, sorta like the 70's Proggers - Gentle Giant, demands MUCH more from the listener than less sophisticated acts...Ever try a group called Between The Buried And Me?
 

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As far as I understand it, Blackfield is mostly the creative effort of Aviv Geffen...Wilson provides some additional writing, vocals, instrumentation, and definitely much production value...To assign credits, I guess it would depend on which song we're talking about...I think the first two Blackfield outings are absolutely great...I DETEST popular music...And, with Blackfield, you get a CLASSY version of mainstream songwriting...In fact, the band might be the best way to introduce the average, radio-influenced mind to the music of Steven Wilson...


I don't understand or agree with your appraisal of OPETH...I will say that they took me so much longer to 'get' than many other bands...But, admittedly, that was mostly a failure on my part...The band integrates some really diverse, and extremely disparate elements into their formula...At first, the amalgam didn't really make sense to me...The parts didn't seem to gel...Now, after much repeat exposure, the parts gel just fine...OPETH, sorta like the 70's Proggers - Gentle Giant, demands MUCH more from the listener than less sophisticated acts...Ever try a group called Between The Buried And Me?

I wouldn't expect anyone to agree with me on it, but it's just how I feel about them. Nothing about Opeth ever clicked with me so even if it takes more to get into them, there was never a hook to make me want to give that much.

And, I've never heard of them but I'll look them up.
 

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I wouldn't expect anyone to agree with me on it, but it's just how I feel about them. Nothing about Opeth ever clicked with me so even if it takes more to get into them, there was never a hook to make me want to give that much.

And, I've never heard of them but I'll look them up.

I only mentione BTBAM as an example of a band that takes WAY MANY attempts before 'getting'...They're a progressive death metal act that incorporates so many disparate styles and directions that it can make your head spin trying to understand...But, I really dig challenges like that...I go for several bands which blend progressive metal with avant garde or jazzy elements...Another great freak fix would be the music of 'iwrestledabearonce'...Holy shirt, man!
 

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Listening to this on blu ray surround sound........and just wanted to say FUCK! Holy shit! Amazing stuff. You people are wasting your time with that other stuff right now.
 

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Porcupine tree is great. But for me it's more to do with Gavin Harrison being one of the best band drummers around, absolutely love his stuff.

I LOVE Opeth. Again originally drawn to them by the greatness of their drummer at the time, Martin Lopez. His ability to interweave classical and modern jazz with death metal left me on a massive high the first time I heard them. The band grew on me pretty quickly after that.

Anyway I suppose this is a bit of a derailing, I can't say I really follow Steven Wilson that much. I'm much more inclined to follow around drummers as they collaborate on side projects and super groups - one called Soen has just released an album with Martin Lopez on drums. Funnily enough, their first album is called Cognitive.

 

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This part of Steven Wilson - Raider II, until 17:23 (further even), is just gorgeous.
Definitely. I saw Steven Wilson and band live this past May and this song was a highlight. Honestly it was the best fuckin show Ive ever been to and the best band I'd ever seen. Dont miss them if they ever go down there. It's literally prog heaven.

IMO the live version of Raider II from Get All You Deserve is better than the album version. IT's not on youtube though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYfQ1I-VV7M

Holy Drinker is my shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leIIlezYJMI
 

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I ain't no INTP, but Porcupine Tree and Opeth are two of my favourite bands. i was drawn into Opeth by the brutal death growls originally, but now overall they're my favourite band - they incorporate every element of music I love into their music, seeming. And PT I've just gotten into, but I really appreciate the proggy-rock, eccentric lyrics, and complex music thing they've got going on. I just tend to love Prog anything - the first band I properly got into was Dream Theater.
 

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I'm starting to think there's something to the INTPs and Steven Wilson thing:) I'm yet another fan of his works. I hear in his songs deep emotional understanding (in lyrics) and music that just fits for the emotions. And these are my kind of emotions:)
 
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