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Relative genetic height and MBTI

scorpiomover

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I thought of a theory. I'd like to test it out. There are 2 factors under consideration:

1) If your actual height is higher than average or lower than average, for your genetics.

2) If you're a J or a P.

In order to work out your genetic height, we need to consider the following:

1) If you were born a man or a woman, as men and women's heights differ substantially.

2) Where your family lived for over 10 generations.

From those, we can then find out the average height of people of your genetic gender, and genetic ethnicity, in the country where your family used to live for 10 generations.

We can call that your "genetic height", meaning, that that's the height you would be, if we concentrated solely on your genetic background.

3) If we then add in your actual height, then we can compare your actual height to your genetic height. Then we have a baseline to say if you are taller than you would normally be based solely on your genetics, or smaller than you would normally be based solely on your genetics.

4) Then I would like to know if you're a J or a P.

If you can provide that information, that would be very useful.

Then once we can see a pattern, I'll post my theory, and we can discuss how much my theory matches the evidence (or not).
 

Hadoblado

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J - 6'2 - male - Australia preceded by Britain, Ireland, and Scotland (maybe more than that but hard to tell, convicts on both sides of the family). Tallest person on mother's side for generations, maybe a little above average height for a male on my father's.

I'm deeply curious about your theory.
 

Cognisant

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You imperial bastard, I may be shorter than you (185cm) but at least I use metric!

Also a pommy-leprechaun mix, that's probably the norm for white Australians who aren't Germans or from South Africa. Do Italians count as white? Eh it depends on the individual I suppose.

Also2 I'm calling it now the theory is that Ps are taller than Js because being taller means they can see further and are thus more inclined to assess their options than act upon the information immediately available.

Or shorter people are angrier because little man syndrome.
@Hadoblado I am your Vegeta!
 

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male / 190cm, my parents were tall, but I'm tallest by far 10+cents taller than my brothers / mostly Jewish, Polish and German ancestry / P stands for 'has a small penis'

I suggest that you post your theory now before you can be accused of fitting the data.

Let's add more pseudosauce, what's your digit ratio? Mine is 0.95-ish
 

Hadoblado

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You imperial bastard, I may be shorter than you (185cm) but at least I use metric!

Also a pommy-leprechaun mix, that's probably the norm for white Australians who aren't Germans or from South Africa. Do Italians count as white? Eh it depends on the individual I suppose.

Also2 I'm calling it now the theory is that Ps are taller than Js because being taller means they can see further and are thus more inclined to assess their options than act upon the information immediately available.

Or shorter people are angrier because little man syndrome.
@Hadoblado I am your Vegeta!

I'd have put extroverted sensing as positively correlated with height, and introverted sensing as inversely correlated with height for similar reasons.

@scorpiomover
What sort of effect size do you expect?
I'm in the camp where this sort of stuff could be real but I expect the effect size to be so small that it's impractical to measure. Personality science is incredibly noisy and it's really hard to measure anything but the most pronounced effects.

Also what way are we measuring judgement/perceiving. I put in the binary interpretation, but current results indicate my top function is a perceiving one.
 

Bluehalite

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Heritage mixture of Scotch Irish Welsh English Swedish & Portuguese (but I look Welsh, and I know that because I look exactly like a painting of a Welsh lady many generations back). Scottish Heritage originally from near Stirling, Scotland, they settled a milling/dairy farm in Western New York early settlers. 1750s-1850's.
 

ZenRaiden

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I don't know where my family lived. I only know I am tall father is short mother is short both grandfathers tall P
 

ZenRaiden

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I think genetics play big part in how we are, only problem, is knowing so, does not really solve any major issues medically or psychologically speaking.

Knowing my history and family history I am definitely not having kids.

Not that I think having kids would be the end of world or something, but generally there is already too many people as is.

On off chance that one of my kids would have similar problems as me or associated problem traits I think its better to be safe here.

Not judging people who have kids.

There are running themes in families that crop up due to genetics.

For instance I can see two major factors from mothers side and fathers side.

One is that one side is highly industrious the other less so.

Both traits are definitely heritable.

Alcoholism is trait present in both families.

Disagreeableness runs in one family more.

I certainly don't think either side of family has terrible genes, but they certainly did not hit the jack pot either. Depends how one looks at this.

This being said who in the world actually has perfect genes?

I think generally there are no perfect genes anyway. Depends really how things play out.
 

Drvladivostok

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181 Cm male, I'm the second tallest in my family, my cousin is nearly 185 cm, I calculate the Average height for my extended family is abot 175 ish for the males, I recognize a pattern that older generation are shorter.


Genetically 100% Indonesian, Javanese Ethnicity, come in a long line of Bureaucrats that have lived in Indonesia literally since the Dutch Colonialisation, I might be slightly dutch since my great grandma married a Dutch Post-office director.
 

ZenRaiden

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183 cm my brother 182 cm
my father is about 172-5 cm
My mother is close to that.
Both my mothers siblings were shorter, and my father siblings shorter.
Grandfathers were tall and Grandmothers shorter.
Height seems to go up and down each generation.

Important factor in height is nutrition.
I am pretty certain from what my family tells me, is their nutrition was lot more lacking than our generation.
They would for example eat just bread and butter and little bit of meat.
Mostly just had meat each Sunday.
So they were almost vegetarian in sense.
 

Old Things

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IDK if I am a J or P. I could go either way and don't show a strong preference for either, really (that is if the official MBTI test means anything).

I'm over 50% Swedish otherwise a mix of pretty much only European descent.

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I'm also very short for a male at 5'4" (163 CM).
 
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