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Recently diagnosed INTP

edward

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Hi all,

I'm a recent philosophy graduate. I spent the entirety of my undergraduate degree supposing I was an INTJ. I seemed to believe that thinking planning and writing an essay well-before the due date was equal to one being an INTJ. I soon discovered, after a stint in graduate-school education (high school students are evil), that I hate being well-prepared, although I think it's a good thing. I'll often write massive lists of things that I need to do or would like to accomplish in the future, but they never get done. I reason my way out of doing them. "It's fine, I don't need to make breakfast now I'll just combine it with lunch and have 'brunch'." I've set my alarm to wake up before 7am for the last 3 months and have managed to justify pressing snooze all but a handful of times.

The distinction between what I thought was my type (INTJ- actually what I would like to be) and what I am in reality, lead me to discover that I am in fact an INTP. My initial question for you alll: should we just re-name ourselves the "justifiers". I seem to always come up with a reasonable justification for why I ought to put something off or even not do it. Is this the trademark of INTPs or am I simply a lazy sh*t?

Anyways, hello! I'm looking forward to heading down the rabbit hole with you all. It's about time I had some company...
 

Rook

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I do love brunch.
Best of both worlds, I say.

Procrastination comes to us intp's as rabbiting does to a rabbit.
Be lucky that you still justify your laziness, for there may come a time when it consumes you, becomes you, and there is no escape.

Welcome, and enjoy your stay.
 

Variform

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Hi all,

I'm a recent philosophy graduate.

What kind of life will you have with that I wonder?

I'll often write massive lists of things that I need to do or would like to accomplish in the future, but they never get done. I reason my way out of doing them. "It's fine, I don't need to make breakfast now I'll just combine it with lunch and have 'brunch'." I've set my alarm to wake up before 7am for the last 3 months and have managed to justify pressing snooze all but a handful of times.

This means that you have a concept of what is supposed to be normal and you are aware you deviate from that norm. Yet you refuse to give in to laziness because that would make you feel guilty, to just reset the alarm clock. You feel like you would give up on yourself by dropping the norm, the standard.

Yes....think it over...yess....see? :elephant: I told you so.

The distinction between what I thought was my type (INTJ- actually what I would like to be) and what I am in reality, lead me to discover that I am in fact an INTP. My initial question for you alll: should we just re-name ourselves the "justifiers". I seem to always come up with a reasonable justification for why I ought to put something off or even not do it. Is this the trademark of INTPs or am I simply a lazy sh*t?

Anyways, hello! I'm looking forward to heading down the rabbit hole with you all. It's about time I had some company...

In nature, my newly arrived philosopher, as you might know, there is a trend to do as much as you can at as low a cost in energy possible. Personally, we all desire the sloth. But a sloth moves so slow, looking relaxed, is an animal that eats a certain type of leaves that are hard to digest and so offer only low amounts of readily available energy.

Efficiency is not a corporate invention. It is an evolutionary principle.

Look at society, well, you already did at length, in school. But I hope your teachers were worth the toilet paper they used during lunch break. That is to say, they should have imprinted on you the notion that society is a function of the use of energy in its various forms and capacities and quantities.

All of our society is based on the use of energy in one way or another. Few people recognize this. You can debate endlessly on all sort of philosophies and the culture and all sorts of considerables but the core of all human behavior is energy.

The way our society is shaped, in its most fractional and large scale conceptions is an application or processing of energy.

So when you postpone, drag your feet, push forward tasks you must or want to do, you are following an evolutionary, energy driven process. And feel guilty about it, likely, at times, or always, whatever you have.

So we can justify alright, any idleness that reaches beyond the immediate need for gratification, such as the need for food, shelter, sex.
Obesity in american society (but here its getting there since we mimic american culture) is rampaging, pandemic. People eat too much and not only because they are deeply unhappy and want rich food to feel good, as it boosts serotonine production etc. We eat because we have an evolutionary drive to store energy for bad times. We gain weight more easily, genetically, than we lose it. And we gain weight because our society gives it us so cheaply, see?

We drive, we have shelter, believe me when you are cold all day you burn more calories. We lack little. So the excess oil, that we pump out of the ground, or natural gas, or coal, or nuclear energy, in a strange way ends up as fatty acids in our bodies.

:facepalm:

We are all lazy shits by evolution. The solution is simple. We need to revert back to a simpler lifestyle. I never seen a really obese Amazonian native.

I think one day you and I must speak about Walden, By Thoreau. What say you?!
 

doncarlzone

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It's simple Variform, we will just develop a vaccination for obesity.

Welcome to the forum edward.
 

Pyropyro

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Hello edward
 

Nick

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I see you took it to simplicities when creating a username, I like you.

:kodama1:
 

wilsonwatsonc

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You (we) are not "lazy." At least, I like to think I'm not lazy. I just prioritize my own enjoyment over long-term goals. This is not a bad thing. Some of my best memories have occurred through intense procrastination, and I like to think that I procrastinate in very productive ways (such as reading a book, practicing my drawing, learning an instrument, etc). Life isn't all about getting things done. We INTPs have simply mastered this realization, and in the end, we usually manage to get the things we need done in time anyway. Or at least I do.

If you're an INTP, I say you should embrace it. It will probably take less energy in the long run, if you consider all the time you spent making those lists you never used (I do that too, the worst is making grocery lists and then forgetting to bring them. Then I just buy random shit). At least enjoy your procrastination instead of feeling guilty the entire time.
 
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