New to the community...

[Basilwarr]

Actually, other than all the standard social media crap, this is the only online "community" I am a part of. Which is fine, just a point of note. Anyway, very recently I have picked back up on an accelerated interest again in personality theory and the like. I had done all this work a couple decades ago by now with myself, in conjunction with other things like the Enneagram and Gardner's Frames of Mind and EQ Golem material, wisdom theory stuff etc. etc. More from a view point of comparing my lock on the subject matter, to what was actually "out there" regarding these considerations. I wanted to know, to what degree had "others" come to know some of these kinds of things that I knew, so I could in turn learn more about myself. Because for me, as with I suspect most of you, I did all this stuff innately, therefore it wasn't easy to assume that what I was seeing was not seen by everyone. Example, for a very long time, in the spirit of "fair thinking for all", I had to give everyone their due, with regard to the accuracy bit, until they proved me wrong. An innocent until guilty approach. Which naturally they did. But it is no easy pill to swallow that you are bound and dedicated to a path of isolation that few know. Now as a sidebar, I was perfectly convinced in 4th grade that most people were morons and that I was the smartest person in the room, and that has never changed. I'm not proud of that fact (I'm not saying I never was proud of that fact, I like to think I am reformed in some ways, which a conversation for another day, just that I'm not presently proud of that fact). I find it disturbing to be honest. Anyway, people grasp clarity in strange doses, I find...everyone a bit different from anyone else. And, of course, I wanted to understand myself better so that I could see where I should be going, right? No mystery there. Still, at the risk of appearing vague, the convergence of many items in life have presently pushed me back to take another hard look at these concepts, to once again chart a course forward in some capacity. To that end, I say hello to all of you.

 

[doncarlzone]

Hi there and welcome.

I'd recommend that you make some paragraphs with spaces between. It is rather difficult to read your writing otherwise.

 

[Basilwarr]

Good advice...I recall in college one of my philosophy professors called a sentence I wrote in a paper and "elephant". But, I couldn't pull a word from it. I do believe it was 138 words long and probably worth the dig.

Spaces and room to move are important...

 

[Rebis]

Good advice...I recall in college one of my philosophy professors called a sentence I wrote in a paper and "elephant". But, I couldn't pull a word from it. I do believe it was 138 words long and probably worth the dig.

Spaces and room to move are important...

They're important but as you rightly said, if we're bound for a path of isolation the communication of our thoughts become superfluous, after all we just talk to ourselves, right? With those decades of consolidation perhaps you have a few insights to prepare us for the path ahead.

 

[Basilwarr]

Interesting Rebis. I think on this matter I take a different trek. Just because we ARE bound to a measure of isolation, we MUST be fearless in the face of it. Strong point here.
I don't want to give up on being able to sow into the populace. being able to graft branches into a drying garden. I think we fit somewhere Somehow, through that perilous waft, I have hope that we can beat back the sense of hopelessness that stands before us by pressing ahead.

I think connection is important . Of course I say that right, because I do so actual little of it.

I don't know that I really like the tangy, salty taste of isolation as an absolute certainty, to be honest, (though I can point to nothing else being offered to persuade me to imagine otherwise, as it pertains to being an INTP at least)...perhaps like a vampire that occasionally recalls what it was like to be living, with the idea that perhaps it might really be possible to be alive again.

I think I must connect somewhere in some purposeful way with the people on this planet...I think this is true for everyone even if they reject it. This is bigger than a man or a woman.

The fiber and texture of reality just oozes hope so that I want to believe I can alleviate the lonely walk in some way, and I actually I do believe I can. Where are a pair of headphones when you need 'em? Ultimately, I may prove this effort futile. Still, I'm coming for any enemy in my path.

 

[Inexorable Username]

Interesting Rebis. I think on this matter I take a different trek. Just because we ARE bound to a measure of isolation, we MUST be fearless in the face of it. Strong point here.
I don't want to give up on being able to sow into the populace. being able to graft branches into a drying garden. I think we fit somewhere Somehow, through that perilous waft, I have hope that we can beat back the sense of hopelessness that stands before us by pressing ahead.

I think connection is important . Of course I say that right, because I do so actual little of it.

I don't know that I really like the tangy, salty taste of isolation as an absolute certainty, to be honest, (though I can point to nothing else being offered to persuade me to imagine otherwise, as it pertains to being an INTP at least)...perhaps like a vampire that occasionally recalls what it was like to be living, with the idea that perhaps it might really be possible to be alive again.

I think I must connect somewhere in some purposeful way with the people on this planet...I think this is true for everyone even if they reject it. This is bigger than a man or a woman.

The fiber and texture of reality just oozes hope so that I want to believe I can alleviate the lonely walk in some way, and I actually I do believe I can. Where are a pair of headphones when you need 'em? Ultimately, I may prove this effort futile. Still, I'm coming for any enemy in my path.

What killed the basil? I have been through a basil war. Lost 8 healthy plants. It was a tragedy.

You should clarify for us what your current life objectives are. So far, I've gotten the gist that you're looking for a significant change in your approach to life, and part of that entails making a deeper connection with your species mates.

A lot of people here on the forum are working on things. Currently, I'm working on remembering my dreams more often, lucid dreaming, self-discipline, and I'm trying to rekindle my motivation for a project that has fallen flat - and, for making money....an objective I always struggle to keep. I had a self-discipline thread, but, of course, I became to undisciplined to maintain it! (Must pronounce this thread dead.)

I am a female INTP, and I enjoy offering my philosophies to males who are looking to create a generalized model for interacting with typical heterosexual females...because I feel that the internet is rife with horrifying male-to-male advice on how "women think". I also philosophy, psychology, nutrition, neurology and sociology, and I'm a noob in theology, investment, politics, and law. I also enjoy creative pursuits - singing and art - and I'm a professional media marketer (graphics, web, most things save videography). I'm one of the older members on the forum, I think. (Age 30). Pleased to meet you.

The Grey Man never talks, but I find him to be an amazing resource for philosophy - he is impressively well read. Rebis is very much an experimentalist. Both he and Marbles are scientifically minded, and I think they're a lot of fun to talk physics with, if that is your thing. Rebis and Serac are fun conversationalists when it comes to the stock market. Marbles holds the secrets of the Norweigan - which has been a weird low key topic of fascination for some of the INTPs I've seen talk here. Happy is an older INTP with quite an interest in MBTI so if you're looking to dig deeper into that, perhaps shoot him a PM? Other than that, I think a fair few members have read Carl Jung. That might be a good start for you. A lot of the less frequent members seem to surface when there is an odd topic that happens to interest them so if you have a conversation starter you think is particularly unusual, you might get a bit of atypical action.

I find that many of the people here like to chat in PMs or on Discord. For me, personally, I found it was more useful to suss out people who I find to be particularly intriguing for the way they think, and try to PM them to learn more about what they know and what value they have to offer.

I'm relatively new here as well, as is Rebis. I've found a lot of friends here. I would say that I've never felt more accepted or embraced by a community. I've learned more here in a very short period of time than I've learned in the past 3 years or so of my life. Coming here has really helped me to develop socially, and find self-acceptance. In fact, I found self-acceptance before my arrival here, but I needed...confirmation. Validation. Perhaps you can identify with the chronic condition of being an excessive, compulsive thinker who is constantly second guessing themselves.

I feel that members of this forum would have much to offer you in regards to your personal objective of self-growth and maturing your paradigm of life. However, it would be more helpful if you specifically give us a problem to chew on. As an example, one of our members posted that they have a fear of women. That was something the community was able to help with.

Perhaps you should start by considering what you feel is the largest challenge standing between the version of your current self, and your visualization of the person you would like to be? Then, you could start a new thread about your issue. Just a suggestion.

Welcome to INTPf! I'm glad that there are some new people coming in. Most of us are pretty introverted and flakey. Lol. Happy to have you!

 

[Basilwarr]

Interesting Rebis. I think on this matter I take a different trek. Just because we ARE bound to a measure of isolation, we MUST be fearless in the face of it. Strong point here.
I don't want to give up on being able to sow into the populace. being able to graft branches into a drying garden. I think we fit somewhere Somehow, through that perilous waft, I have hope that we can beat back the sense of hopelessness that stands before us by pressing ahead.

I think connection is important . Of course I say that right, because I do so actual little of it.

I don't know that I really like the tangy, salty taste of isolation as an absolute certainty, to be honest, (though I can point to nothing else being offered to persuade me to imagine otherwise, as it pertains to being an INTP at least)...perhaps like a vampire that occasionally recalls what it was like to be living, with the idea that perhaps it might really be possible to be alive again.

I think I must connect somewhere in some purposeful way with the people on this planet...I think this is true for everyone even if they reject it. This is bigger than a man or a woman.

The fiber and texture of reality just oozes hope so that I want to believe I can alleviate the lonely walk in some way, and I actually I do believe I can. Where are a pair of headphones when you need 'em? Ultimately, I may prove this effort futile. Still, I'm coming for any enemy in my path.

What killed the basil? I have been through a basil war. Lost 8 healthy plants. It was a tragedy.

You should clarify for us what your current life objectives are. So far, I've gotten the gist that you're looking for a significant change in your approach to life, and part of that entails making a deeper connection with your species mates.

A lot of people here on the forum are working on things. Currently, I'm working on remembering my dreams more often, lucid dreaming, self-discipline, and I'm trying to rekindle my motivation for a project that has fallen flat - and, for making money....an objective I always struggle to keep. I had a self-discipline thread, but, of course, I became to undisciplined to maintain it! (Must pronounce this thread dead.)

I am a female INTP, and I enjoy offering my philosophies to males who are looking to create a generalized model for interacting with typical heterosexual females...because I feel that the internet is rife with horrifying male-to-male advice on how "women think". I also philosophy, psychology, nutrition, neurology and sociology, and I'm a noob in theology, investment, politics, and law. I also enjoy creative pursuits - singing and art - and I'm a professional media marketer (graphics, web, most things save videography). I'm one of the older members on the forum, I think. (Age 30). Pleased to meet you.

The Grey Man never talks, but I find him to be an amazing resource for philosophy - he is impressively well read. Rebis is very much an experimentalist. Both he and Marbles are scientifically minded, and I think they're a lot of fun to talk physics with, if that is your thing. Rebis and Serac are fun conversationalists when it comes to the stock market. Marbles holds the secrets of the Norweigan - which has been a weird low key topic of fascination for some of the INTPs I've seen talk here. Happy is an older INTP with quite an interest in MBTI so if you're looking to dig deeper into that, perhaps shoot him a PM? Other than that, I think a fair few members have read Carl Jung. That might be a good start for you. A lot of the less frequent members seem to surface when there is an odd topic that happens to interest them so if you have a conversation starter you think is particularly unusual, you might get a bit of atypical action.

I find that many of the people here like to chat in PMs or on Discord. For me, personally, I found it was more useful to suss out people who I find to be particularly intriguing for the way they think, and try to PM them to learn more about what they know and what value they have to offer.

I'm relatively new here as well, as is Rebis. I've found a lot of friends here. I would say that I've never felt more accepted or embraced by a community. I've learned more here in a very short period of time than I've learned in the past 3 years or so of my life. Coming here has really helped me to develop socially, and find self-acceptance. In fact, I found self-acceptance before my arrival here, but I needed...confirmation. Validation. Perhaps you can identify with the chronic condition of being an excessive, compulsive thinker who is constantly second guessing themselves.

I feel that members of this forum would have much to offer you in regards to your personal objective of self-growth and maturing your paradigm of life. However, it would be more helpful if you specifically give us a problem to chew on. As an example, one of our members posted that they have a fear of women. That was something the community was able to help with.

Perhaps you should start by considering what you feel is the largest challenge standing between the version of your current self, and your visualization of the person you would like to be? Then, you could start a new thread about your issue. Just a suggestion.

Welcome to INTPf! I'm glad that there are some new people coming in. Most of us are pretty introverted and flakey. Lol. Happy to have you!

Well let me first say thank you for such a pleasant welcome The tenor of hospitality was overwhelming. I look forward to meeting everyone. Pleased to meet you as well inex.

There is much in the things you have said that could be commented upon and I'd like to at some point, because they beg naggings I have to deal with anyway, but you are right I need to identify what I hope to gain in coming in here. Yes there is the distant hope that there might be several keys to locks I'm working on, but truth be told, I'm not sure about that either...they say pornography is difficult to define, but we all know it when we see it. Well in a strange way I'm kind of expecting to know the items when I see them. I once went to seminary because I had nothing better to do (I reasoned), and why not be ready and prepared while I wait at the "doorstep" of God for answers. Lord knows I'm attentive, if not obedient. I'm not trying to make fun. I'm just saying that as with spirituality where iron sharpens iron, so too it probably adds that we might be assets one to another.

I'm sure you get all that. So what then do I hope to gain? One guy who was smart and successful and at a great age when he told me this said, "_______, if you want to be successful, Identify your strengths. Then identify your weaknesses. Then, with as much money as you can afford, you hire the best person you can who is good at what you are weak at, and you will be successful." I think maybe I'm looking for some "mates" as you say. Perhaps build and infrastructure. A strong closeline that can be effective for some good. A network that could use their exceeding influence to bend barriers that might otherwise remain stiff. I'm going to chew on this some more. This is just one item I see. The truth is I am aggressively secret even though it may seem quite the contrary. So, I need to consider what kinds of things I may or may not want to discuss. Naturally, one cannot on that which they do not know, and advice of any kind is difficult to get behind unless you have a fair command of the facts

But I do appreciate where your head is at. Your interests. The way you tackle engagement, the approach you used to avail yourself. I get the validation need as well, and that could be part of why I signed on to this venue as well. I had a particularly bad run of events that I won't bore you with here, and although I have set my body against the wind, still I feel the lingering sting. The second guessing, lol I do innumerable flux guessing! I don't know, I'm sure there was a time when I second guessed myself on validation, I just can't remember when I think with me I'm so much the opposite of that that my life feels nearly fate driven. But, certainly at the highest level, there is much to wonder about.

I'm prattling on...must turn in. Good night.