How to cultivate each cognitive function.

[OrLevitate]

How would one cultivate each cognitive process/function?

For example:

Fe: Converse with many people, keep their feelings in mind constantly, adjust how you say things to cater to their emotions.

Fi: Throughout the whole day, try to judge whether or not something is in tune with your personal feeling-based notions, talk to people and make sure to adjust things to what YOU feel, try being outspoken about what you feel to try and get a grasp of what your Fi is telling you. Try on different dogmas or ways of living and see how it feels.

Si: Memorize things?

Ne: Write out a list of possible outcomes to the events you will encounter in your day, a few years from now, for other people in other events, for new trends, etc.

I'm interested in how you would advise someone (Joe XXXX) to cultivate each cognitive function. Trying all of these things out would also serve as a much better assessment of what type you are, by seeing which ones come more easily and which are more difficult to do. If this thread gets enough attention, I'd like to compile all of the agreed upon methods of cultivation once a bunch have been established.

 

[Grayman]

Perhaps an INFP would be best at providing an opinion to Fi...

Fi: Develop your understanding of your core values which are tied to your strongest emotions. Write them down. Examine why they are valuable to you. Determine how to fulfill those values efficiently. Try to understand the mixture of emotions in how you see things. Separate them and define them and determine their attachments.

Fe: Focus on loyalty and the general feeling of a certain groups. Try and establish an understanding of the emotions behind gatherings, traditions, and other things such as weddings and funerals on an emotional level and participate in these things. Feeding the need to herd.

Si: Review what you know and compare to establish a correction and an idea of where you memory is. Go through sensations in your mind of things before you do them and compare. Review data that is relatable to other data and deep topic information to feed an overall understanding of the topic.

Ne: (Increases Ne but should be limited if you suffer from negative emotions from constant past what ifs) Find different ways a situation that occurred could have happened now that you have a better understanding of all that was going to take shape.
Futuristic Ne -> create different scenarios and 'test those scenarios'. Validating the Ne process through successful results is important to establish more productive Ne and also to eliminate bad Ne so that you can tune your Ne to be more efficient.

 

[Architect]

In general a person should spend most of their working day in the first two functions, and indeed most people do. When relaxing people most often relapse into their tertiary, and the inferior ideally is a distant goal that is present in mind, but just "lives" in the shadow of the dominant.

If you want to practice your functions then you should not practice your inferior, and the tertiary will naturally come out in relaxation. The first two will naturally get plenty of exercise and development, since you are using them so much. Therefore one should simply act according to their best nature, and the functions will develop naturally.

 

[OrLevitate]

In general a person should spend most of their working day in the first two functions, and indeed most people do. When relaxing people most often relapse into their tertiary, and the inferior ideally is a distant goal that is present in mind, but just "lives" in the shadow of the dominant.

If you want to practice your functions then you should not practice your inferior, and the tertiary will naturally come out in relaxation. The first two will naturally get plenty of exercise and development, since you are using them so much. Therefore one should simply act according to their best nature, and the functions will develop naturally.

Conjuction OrLevitatejunction, what's your function? I'm not really sure.
Take the online tests.
Did, but they're not terribly accurate.
Read what Jung directly says about each type and see which one you identify with most.
Did, but not totes sure, just know I'm xNxP.
Try and do what each type would do best, and see which one's come easily, and which ones are difficult.
Would like to do this, but want to establish decent parameters for what each cog. func. entails and how one would go about improving it, or ways they would actively be aware of their usage of it.

I appreciate your post about the tertiary coming out in relaxation, makes me lean more towards ENFP.

I would really appreciate you writing a bit about how you would go about cultivating your Ti or Ne, as if it were your singular goal, rather than just letting it happen while being yourself. If not that's okay of course, as you already stated your thoughts on the matter, but I'd still appreciate it.

 

[Base groove]

You can't; don't bother.

 

[OrLevitate]

You can't; don't bother.

why why why why

 

[Base groove]

why why why why

Because they are passive and involuntary, most likely mediated by deep/inner sub-cortical regions such as the Thalamus.

They never appear in isolated form (never a steady state). ... more likely wave oscillations and approximations.

 

[Grayman]

You can't; don't bother.

Yes you can; it's worth it.

<evidence>

 

[OrLevitate]

oh

 

[OrLevitate]

wait so are you saying you can't define each function and its usage?!?!? things that come easier to those who have primary functions of which the activity lends itself more to?? That doesn't make sense! That invalidates like everything

 

[Grayman]

Because they are passive and involuntary, most likely mediated by deep/inner sub-cortical regions such as the Thalamus.

They never appear in isolated form (never a steady state). ... more likely wave oscillations and approximations.

You cannot isolate them in usage. When lifting weights you can exercise different muscle groups but not focus on single muscles. By focusing on different exercises that target a weaker area you can target that muscle more often making it stronger.

 

[OrLevitate]

You cannot isolate them in usage. When lifting weights you can exercise different muscle groups but not focus on single muscles. By focusing on different exercises that target a weaker area you can target that muscle more often making it stronger.

exactly! i'm pretty flabbergasted at the resistance this simple thought is meeting

 

[Architect]

I would really appreciate you writing a bit about how you would go about cultivating your Ti or Ne, as if it were your singular goal, rather than just letting it happen while being yourself. If not that's okay of course, as you already stated your thoughts on the matter, but I'd still appreciate it.

No I've been cultivating them. In particular because of my upbringing which didn't encourage those parts of my psyche. I've written about this extensively on the Ask Architect thread, I'd encourage you to look over there at it.

In particular programming and work in engineering and technology develops these functions, but I'll write one in particular about developing Ti + Ne in the next day or two on that thread.

 

[OrLevitate]

No I've been cultivating them. In particular because of my upbringing which didn't encourage those parts of my psyche. I've written about this extensively on the Ask Architect thread, I'd encourage you to look over there at it.

In particular programming and work in engineering and technology develops these functions, but I'll write one in particular about developing Ti + Ne in the next day or two on that thread.

Cool, thanks!

 

[OrLevitate]

anyone else contributing? plz. bumpbumpbump

 

[Grayman]

anyone else contributing? plz. bumpbumpbump

Give it a day. Do your own research on google and then contribute. If have to bump at least dress it up so that it invokes conversation. Try a new approach etc...

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I don't think you can make a function stronger or more proficient, but the functions have a certain quality to them which gives you the overall psychological types. So because there is a quality present it will be expressed in a certain way. That is where I think improvement is possible, the realm in which the function expresses itself.

So like if Fe entails a heightened sense of the external social environment, and provides one the ability to produce effective emotional/social actions and reactions. Inferior Fe cannot innately gain those capabilities, but it can adopt techniques from others and learn to mimic behaviors. It'll be a black box system for the Ti dom, they might be able to successfully navigate with Fe, but they'll be blind to the process and unable to work in novel situations.

How would one cultivate each cognitive process/function?

For example:

Fe: Converse with many people, keep their feelings in mind constantly, adjust how you say things to cater to their emotions.

I would consider this psychological submission rather than cultivation and if you're naturally opposed to this you'd only be stressing yourself by adopting a world of in-authenticity that you can't handle in the long run. At least if you're doing it by yourself with no social mentor to guide you.

IMO examples of learning techniques > submission to a lifestyle:

What are some topics Fe types use to spark and maintain conversation? What do they look for to interpret(or even predict) interest or boredom?

How can you tell what a person is feeling? Before they feel it? What do you do for each feeling? How do you juggle the feelings of multiple people?

What are some things one shouldn't say? Does it differ between people? Can you cater too much and make a person worse off?​

 

[Kuu]

exactly! i'm pretty flabbergasted at the resistance this simple thought is meeting

Seriously, one person totally goes on a tangent and a single other disagrees and you're "flabbergasted"?

anyone else contributing? plz. bumpbumpbump

Take a chill pill. People got stuff to do and aren't going to reply just because you want to, and need time to think to make decent replies, and might not care at all about your thread.

As a moderator, I must ask you not to bump your own thread when barely an hour and a half has passed since its creation, it's obnoxious and unnecessary. Or else

Si: Memorize things?

Funny, Si seems to be the less discussed function for INTPs... I think most would find it hard to agree and pin it down.

Si is not exactly about memory as I understand it, but about vague impressions of experiences. Not abstract but sensational (not limited to the physical, it could involve an emotional sensation). About falling into certain patterns of doing, and avoiding certain others. These patterns are not thought explicitly, methodically and conceptually like with Ti, nor the franatic sense of hunches and revelations of growing networked complexity of abstracted perceptions of Ne. Not Ti-Ne ideas, but Si-Fe sensations internalising as facts and patterns. They appear to me quite unconscious, automatic, and are largely self-contained, and are often more tied to the emotional than the rational. About consolidating old memories, old connections, rather Ne creation of new ones. The vague memories of the atmospheres of places. A certain pleasantness of some repetitions and certain familiar scenes. The sense in the back of your head that some things seem obvious how to do them, or how they should be, and seem to happen effortlessly for you. And how some things are just automatically not done or avoided.

(Caveat: I might be full of shit)

How to excercise it?... beats me.

 

[Grayman]

Seriously, one person totally goes on a tangent and a single other disagrees and you're "flabbergasted"?

It wasnt a tangent. It was an analogy. I know it is dangerous to use an analogy as they can be more confusing than a simple explanation. For me it is just a way to speak with and to intuition.

I suppose we are on a tangent now...


Anyways, you cannot exercise your functions individually but it should be possible to find activities that utilize a function more thus strengthening them.

This will not change type but it should make you more rounded.

 

[OrLevitate]

how bout like muscle memory, when you pick up a guitar and play a complex song you haven't played in years, but when you try to just play it slowly you can't cuz its just muscle memory. is that some flabbergasting Si? Better aptitude for muscle memory?

I'm out of my depth here but I'm enjoying reading everyone's thoughts on this topic.

 

[Base groove]

how bout like muscle memory, when you pick up a guitar and play a complex song you haven't played in years, but when you try to just play it slowly you can't cuz its just muscle memory. is that some flabbergasting Si? Better aptitude for muscle memory?

I'm out of my depth here but I'm enjoying reading everyone's thoughts on this topic.

No.

Introverted perceptions are basically a passive mode of perceiving reality, in a fashion that is individual and "subjective". The sensations are accessible to the individual, only.

It is not characterized by a desire to action, only a desire to perceive. Introverted perceptions want to "take away" something from the environment, for storage, and interpretation, and impression forming.

In the case of introverted sensing, the individual realizes that his perceptions are subjective and unavailable for others to perceive the same way. Where this function is dominant, people tend to believe that subjective perceptions are the only perceptions and they trust their own interpretations above those of others. This is true as well for any IxxJ, not just ISxJ.

The difference is that in Ni types the subjective perceptions are related to patterns and interpretations while in Si types the subjective perceptions are more limited to facts and concrete data. Given this proposal, I would argue that Ni-types are more likely to willingly adopt the perspective of another person, in an effort to understand or add to the 'picture'. Si-types are sometimes prone to thinking that the 'perspective of another' is completely unavailable and an absurd notion ... this can/will be exacerbated by the constant self-referencing.

So where Ni is subjectively (and passively) perceiving patterns and possibilities based on objective sensory data (Se), Si is subjectively perceiving data only, and the intuitive process is extraverted (objective and actively seeking (Ne)).

Physiological processes such as muscle memory are not related to the "cultivation of cognitive functions". I have already tried to make a point that we can not cultivate them, as they barely exist at all as anything other than an approximation/probabilistic occurrence, and not a steady state. There is no Ti or Si to pinpoint like that. The functions are as evasive as anything else in the universe; uncertainty principles always apply, even in the most abstract ways; they are always significant.