Best way to communicate properly?

[fluffy]

I used to write alot of essays in school and so when I write it looks like those essays.

It was pointed out to me that I have some kind of thesis statement and evidence and conclusion.

People find this hard to engage with so I am asking how I can change what I write for people to be more willing to participate with it.

I am not sure what that looks like but am willing to try.

 

[Hadoblado]

Actually I was pointing out that you could benefit from a thesis statement or conclusion in your posts.

You do write somewhat like an essay sometimes. You are able to express your ideas clearly, but it's unclear towards what goals you post. This results in either the wrong sort of engagement (arguments you're not trying to have), or disengagement (e.g. 'this doesn't address me, I'll skip this long ass post').

In pedagogy there's a distinction between cooperative play and parallel play. The way you post feels like it's in parallel to conversations, but separate from them? You'll discuss the topic with relation to your beliefs in a very Ti/Si way, expressing your ideas or recounting an experience you've had, but it's unclear to me as a reader what sort of engagement you're after.

So I was thinking for your longer posts, it might be a good idea just double checking you've made your intentions clear.

The example I was thinking of was this:

I always thought that true facts were true and false facts were false?

Reality is not constructed by our beliefs about it but by how we interact with the rules reality has. I can make people believe snake oil cures cancer but does it really? The difference between the social and the physical is that you cannot do impossible things by beliefs alone. It must be physically possible and then the societal factors come into play.

Some people will tell you 2 + 2 = 5 but try and build bridges or anything else doing math the wrong way and reality wont allow it. I am not talking about symbols as place holders. If I have one apple and you give me an apple I have two apples not seventeen apples. If I try and sell seventeen when I only have two then people will think I am cheating them or that I am stupid. The rules of reality seem fixed and unchangeable in that way.

This reads like an argument to me. You start with a question but it seems rhetorical. You then state your beliefs and why in a pretty clear and organised manner, as if you're arguing. But given what you've said before I'm not sure that's your intent?

Also while I'm expressing this as a result of my vested mod interest in improving discourse, I am not moderating you by bringing this up.

 

[ZenRaiden]

Try one idea at a time. Seems to me those threads have highest engagment.

 

[Kuu]

people to be more willing to participate with it.

Which people?

Always know your audience and the context in which you are communicating.

 

[fluffy]

people to be more willing to participate with it.

Which people?

Always know your audience and the context in which you are communicating.

I seem to have had some bad reactions from people on the forum. I was told my writing lacks intentions or thoughts on how I want to be engaged with by other here. So I guess the way I write is ambiguous but I try not to offend people because if I don't write in the way I do people have been offended from the previous way I write and I don't want that to happen again.

I have no idea what I am supposed to do if I am supposed to change what I say as non neutral or non threating or anything that is supposed to be different from how it is now. If I say the wrong stuff, if I direct myself at some persons beliefs they get offended. I don't have anything much to say to people that place bad things on my character and do not wish to impose anything on their character. I have thoughts and ideas but to express them I need to follow the rules and I could do better in some way to make my intentions known. Only it takes time to know what I have done wrong in where I go with the words I used and I cannot say for sure what I can do next accept to be more careful in some way.

My essays for example lack some suitable structure and not everyone is interested in them. I could make them sorter and ask people what it is I want to talk about as @ZenRaiden said. Going by how often the long ones have been ignored and how not many have responses I need to do something different. I might need to look into the quality of what I say more and what people actually want to talk about that my ideas might come into a better focus. Hopefully it will not bother people if I try something outside the norm of my current style of communication if what replaces it is improved. I don't have that great of language or people skills which is what I happen to be working on at the moment and want to be better at here at elsewhere.

 

[Puffy]

I’d try to not take it personally. If you write long posts you’re less likely to get a response as there’s more effort involved in replying. It happens to me to.

Your ability to communicate has improved massively in the time I’ve known you.

 

[Hadoblado]

I’d try to not take it personally. If you write long posts you’re less likely to get a response as there’s more effort involved in replying. It happens to me to.

Your ability to communicate has improved massively in the time I’ve known you.

Both true.

Long posts tend to lack focus. On forums with upvotes, it's only short posts and the most finely crafted effort posts that get big engagement.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

I seem to have had some bad reactions from people on the forum. I was told my writing lacks intentions or thoughts on how I want to be engaged with by other here. So I guess the way I write is ambiguous but I try not to offend people because if I don't write in the way I do people have been offended from the previous way I write and I don't want that to happen again.

i never expect "reactions" or "engagement"

i write ideas that i am excited about

i share them because i like to imagine there is someone out there who also finds these ideas useful and interesting

well, actually, most often i just share ideas because i'm so excited about them and i just can't keep my mouth shut

i sometimes get grouchy people complain about my posts

but they are not INTPs, so of course they will misunderstand


i do of course love a rabid ENTP




CRITIQUE = RESPECT

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

My essays for example lack some suitable structure and not everyone is interested in them.

i guess being self-deprecating and asking for advice is a pretty good strat


what is your best idea evar ?

 

[threeStepfourStep]

I think I've said this in the past, sometimes, silence qualifies as communication. Personally, I see a tendency in you, AK, on the need to write out in text all your emotions and your feelings. Sometimes I think a bit of perseverence could go a long way. If you read things that have triggering effects on you, the wisest thing is to stay away from that material because it's literal harm on your own body.

An example of this is when I would engage in some text or some video, after I had come back from a social engagement or a long period of disengagment from the internet- I get a rush of stress just from looking at it. At this point, I realize that I absorb all this stress when I am in another wavelength, and don't realize it until my being is burnt or stressed out.

One thing I like to do is read at the library- this really helps me focus and help me recover from my burnout periods.