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Am I an INTP or ENFJ or... what the hell?

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So, I can't decide what my type is. I'll post here a questionnare I did, maybe this will help you to get the most accurate theory about my type.

1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?

I’m not sure if I’m an extravert or an introvert, a feeler or a thinker. I’d say introvert or ambivert, because I don’t really like going out nowdays, but as we know, extravert can get energy from anything, it doesn’t have to be people. Although I usually feel comfortable alone in my room, talking to my friends on skype, playing games with them, I need people around me (I live with my family), and I also feel energized when I have to deal with/think about outside situations. I need to read the news everytime, think about it, or get inputs from books, movies and so on, while I live in my room.

I have a Borderline Personality Disorder, wich makes it harder control my emotion or make a decision which involves emotions. Apart from this, I think I’m quite logical, and most of the time I get angry with people, when I think they aren’t. I think being illogical (as emotionally immature) can ruin your and others life. I really hate bullshiting.

2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?

I want to have a job I can really enjoy while I earn enough money not to die in the streets. Something as parapsychology, physicist (I really love quantum physics theories), maybe a criminal psychologyst or a journalist, who have to put little pieces together, and think a lot. The other line is an artist. I have quite strange images and stories in my head. If I could earn enough money from my art, that would be heaven. The third thing is politics. Altough I’m not so into that, I’d really like to change a few things. I live in a country where democracy disappears slowly, women are repressed, children don’t get the kind of education they would need. I hate sexism, racism, idiotism, and I want to do something against it.

3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.


Hard to tell. Maybe when I was a child, and I was lying on a bench, looking to the sky. I’d just read parapsychology books, and the atmosphere was mystical. It was before rain, which I love the most. Everything was grey, dark, smelled like rain. I felt I was connected to something, and was thinking about what if aliens existed. Or when I found the Elisa Lam case, and I was super excited. I spent my whole evening trying to analyze it, gathering informations, making theories. I love thinking about suspicious/creepy/mystical cases.

4) What makes you feel inferior?

When I see people around me who can’t get out of their deep shit, and ruins everyone’s life with their idiot political choices. Most of these people are unintelligent, immature and selfish. Their eyes are dead. They only care about what kind of promises they get from parties about their money, they can’t see the big picture. It’s one thing they cant help themselves, but they have a bad effect on everything else too. They are the people who make children because they feel like shit. They know nothing about nurturing, and they live in an unhealthy, sad family model, wich would give the society more sad, unhealthy and stupid people. And me, the idiot feels a great responsibility to improve society.

5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)

I usually try to decide based on logic, but I often consider the effect on others. It works hand in hand. When it’s about theoretical discussions with my friend, I often see potential in people, so I try to make a decisions that are both logical but often gives enough space to improve people.

6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?

First of all, unless I have to work less, I don’t like working with others. I usually have rough sketch in my head before we start the work, and I don’ t like asking others if it’s good for them. Or go after them, and ask, how much work they did. It’s a pain in the ass. Yes, I like to have control of the outcome. When I do it alone, I have my sketch, and I try not to start working until I really have to. Then I make everything in a short period.

7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?

I was a 8-10 years old child. I had my best friend, but we had a few other guys to hang out with. Homework was easy to do, I didn’t really care about it, I’ve never been a perfectionist. I had a lot of free time, I loved reading books, or meet with my best friend. I enjoyed big conversations with people, but sometimes I needed my space. I loved staying in the school after lunch (I had to, my parents only came for me at 5 pm), and play with other kids. Usualy I made little lectures about things like sex, or something else I found important (to adult also). I didn’t see what was wrong in my family, I just had a feeling something was wrong.

8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)

If I’m interested, I want to gather as much information as possible. I can read whole day long about something. When I’m not interested, but I have to learn, I lie down with my book or laptop, and try to artificially get lost int he topic. Feel its taste, understand it. I really hate memorizing anything. I like to understand things in my own ways, so maybe I’ll see it a little bit different than others. This doesn’t mean it would be a wrong information.

9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?

I hope this is not a J/P question, because then I totally disagree.
I’m not organized when I have to do something I don’t want to. I can’t force myself. On the other hand I have a picture in the morning, what I’m planning to do that day, or I think about when/where I can go shopping that day, or when can I eat, what should I do with my 45 minutes feetime etc. When I’ve got nothing to do, I can’t be „productive” (I think productivity means something else to everyone. Or at least I hope so. Productivity for me is about to evolve. In anything). I stay in my bed whole day, and read about new things, play games, watch movies (mostly art films), and analyze a lot.

10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?

I’ll try to see the principles, and imagine how it would work. I will make scenarios in my head and try to use the idea on them. I’l try to find mistakes and loopholes first.

11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?

I don’t know. I need both, but if I disagree with anyone, I will tell it, and don't care if they can't handle the truth. Ofc I will try to be as kind as I can, but my thoughts are more important than the group harmony. People have to learn how to be objective on a topic, it helps us evolving. Obviously emotional harmony is important too.

12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?

Aaand I hope this is not an E/I question, because then I disagree again.
Think before speaking. I usualy have an instant plot in my head what would happen if I said something. It works. I like both interaction, if it’s interesting enough.

13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?

I like to know where do I jump. Sometimes actions speak more, sometimes doesn’t.

14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?

Maybe I’ll tell them to meet after the show. If I want to. If I don’t want to meet anyone, I’ll tell them.

15) How do you act when you're stressed out?

I tell pessimist things I don’t believe, and I’m agressive. Or I’m totally passive, and don’t care about anything or anyone.

16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?

Hrm. I don’t like people who can’t talk about anything deep or complex, but only about their boss is an asshole, their husband is (insert here), where should I get the groceries. I also hate any kind of chauvinism, or when someone can't put away emotions in a conversation, so we can't have an interesting argument. People who only say „good day” to me (and don’t give a shit about others around me) because they think I’m sexy. Great, now I know you want to f*ck me. I hate anyone with dogmas stucked in their head, people who live their lives the way they had been told, and don't have any introspection.

17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?

Yes, I like talking about spiritualism, the question of reality, solipsism, reincarnation, afterlife, any topics ot philosophy, morality, society, or any really bizarre theories. Sometimes I also like deep conversations about one’s emotional life, I like helping to others understand the picture.

18) What kind of things do pay the least attention to in your life?

Always what I should care about. Right now it’s university studies.

19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?

They think I’m mature, intelligent and sensitive, weird, maybe incalculable, and sometimes creepy a little bit. They would never say I’m unintelligent or well-organized.

20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?

Watching art films, reading books, thinking about strange ideas that pop into my ind, playing/talking with my friends. I also love to have a deep, creepy dream, I can feel it underneath my skin. I like writing down my dreams, and thinking about them, making theories what if they happened in a different dimension and so on.

More informations:

I love everything that's weird, creepy, unusual. I crave for surrealism. I'm amazed by anything disturbing. I like when something really interesting happens, I can spend a whole day analyzing and researching it. Although I think I'm quite logical, when I was younger, it was really hurtful to get any kind of critique. This has improved a lot. Although as a child I made lectures about topics I thought was important, and my parents got headache because I was quite assertive about my opinion, and very critical. I don't know can be an NT so enthusiastic about spiritualism or improving society. I'm not even sure wether I'm an Ni or an Ne user. Dayum.

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Your Borderline Personality Disorder likely greatly contributes to your confusion about yourself. Therefore, curing it may reveal your type. :)

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I think you reek of ENFP, given the difference between cognitive and social extroversion.
I have a Borderline Personality Disorder
Self-diagnosed or doctor?

http://personalitycafe.com/articles/25205-dominant-tertiary-loops-common-personality-disorders.html

And of course there's the good ol' functions test: http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm

Not always perfect, but usually helpful.

Reading through the OP... you remind me of a weird combination of Minuend and Speiss. Or an unusually morbid version of Speiss.
has a clone
:phear:
 
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I think you reek of ENFP, given the difference between cognitive and social extroversion.

Self-diagnosed or doctor?

http://personalitycafe.com/articles/25205-dominant-tertiary-loops-common-personality-disorders.html

And of course there's the good ol' functions test: http://www.keys2cognition.com/explore.htm

Not always perfect, but usually helpful.

Reading through the OP... you remind me of a weird combination of Minuend and Speiss. Or an unusually morbid version of Speiss.

:phear:

Thank you. Well, it was a self diagnose I told my psychiatrist who said she thought sometimes the same, then we agreed that probably that's the problem. If I didn't misunderstood. Anyways, I don't try to hide behind this "hi, I have BPD" mask, but I need a stable point about my condition.

Um, yeah. Usually my highest function is Ni then Ne on these tests. Here's the latest:

Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************* (19.4)
limited use
introverted Sensing (Si) ********************************** (34.7)
good use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ******************************* (31.9)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ****************************************** (42.8)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************** (26.8)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************* (25.6)
average use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ******************************* (31.7)
good use
introverted Feeling (Fi) *************************** (27.7)
average use
Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INFJ

Lead (Dominant) Process
Introverted Intuiting (Ni): Transforming with a meta-perspective. Withdrawing from the world and focusing your mind to receive an insight or realization. Checking if synergy results. Trying out a realization to transform things.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Extraverted Feeling (Fe): Building trust through giving relationships. Empathically responding to others' needs and take on their needs and values as your own. Checking for respect and trust. Giving and receiving support to grow closer to people.

If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENFJ, or INTJ

I'm totally confused.
Uh! I'm a morbid version of someone. I take this as a compliment.
 

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I agree with THD, you sound far more Ne than Ni oriented and likely NF. I am friends with many ENFPs and our friendships are usually built on the sorts of interests and idea exploring that you speak about.

Somewhere I also read that the ENFP personality is sometimes correlated with BPD (similar to INTPs tending to be schizoid, INFPs avoidant, etc.).
 
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Thank you. Well, it was a self diagnose I told my psychiatrist who said she thought sometimes the same, then we agreed that probably that's the problem. If I didn't misunderstood. Anyways, I don't try to hide behind this "hi, I have BPD" mask, but I need a stable point about my condition.
Um, yeah. Usually my highest function is Ni then Ne on these tests. Here's the latest:

Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ******************* (19.4)
limited use
introverted Sensing (Si) ********************************** (34.7)
good use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ******************************* (31.9)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ****************************************** (42.8)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************** (26.8)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************* (25.6)
average use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ******************************* (31.7)
good use
introverted Feeling (Fi) *************************** (27.7)
average use
I'm totally confused.

Uh! I'm a morbid version of someone. I take this as a compliment.
I like the manner in which the BPD thing came up. That's probably the best possibility ever, imho. Same with your use of it as a stable point.

And yes. Morbid is a compliment. :cat:
Both Minu and Speiss are badasses... :beatyou: :cool: :D
Because Si is so much higher than Se, I wouldn't see a problem claiming Ne-Si and Ne-dom. I've scored high on Ni and Fi in the past myself (which led this ENTP to think he was INTJ at the time... :kodama1:)

So now... is it Ti-Fe or Fi-Te? :confused: These seem too close to split; not even F is clearly greater than T. In the mean time; Things I'm looking at/cuing in on:

You were attracted to a classic Ne trap... and also seemed to spark up during the ENTP invasion (not restricted to this link, but in general).

Is the paranoia and suppression of expression you describe evidence of Fi, a judging feeling function?

Is the attachment of feeling to your "characters" an example of Fi? Fe should be influenced by the external environment, whereas Fi is internal and more immune to the external world.

"I really want to show people of unknown ways" reminds me of... me. Of me Ne. And does the rebellion described seem like a Ne-Te loop?
PersCafe Ne-Te loop example said:
The ENFP I described above may have been one of these types. They simultaneously desire to control and dazzle others with their extraordinary leadership and grandiose performances. For the ENFP, this tends to take the form of insisting on consistent, scheduled attention from others for his/her artistic or creative gifts, while for the ESTJ it tends to manifest itself in terms of indignation when others refuse to follow every detail of the user's "visionary" leadership style. This combination, ironically, makes the user extremely dependent upon others for meaning, never really finding a sense of internal balance, no matter how hard he works to create and delegate. While Te leads these types to desire structure and discipline, Ne continually contradicts it by insisting on impulsive displays of creative freedom. Often self-denigrating over the inability to control Ne's impulsive explorations, Te will go to any lengths to keep the user in a position of power and influence, where others must defer to his authority. If Fi/Si were doing its job, these types would recognize that what they're looking for cannot be found outside themselves--they must learn to sometimes live for themselves and only themselves, and forget about external results for a moment.
And this quote from the same link:
Ironically, this user's primary personality imbalance was poorly developed secondary Fi--it turned out she actually was an ENFP providing a perfect example of over-dependence on extroverted attitudes. She reported placing far too much emphasis on the approval of others and couldn't introspect enough to figure out which type was really her. Without a strong introverted function she was left a poor sense of individual self, and showed it through her dependence on the opinions of others to determine her type. She was looking everywhere but the right place--inside.
You're younger, right? As in like... younger than mid-20s?

Normally functional development is, first, the dominant, followed by the tertiary, and then the auxillary, which doesn't normally start until ones 20s. (TimeAsylums can expand on this. He's probably mentioned this somewhere... :o)
 
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1. Well, I'm not sure if is this an Fi-thing. Changing characters and stuff should be something totally different than Fi, shouldn't it? Sometimes it comes externally. I see someone or something, and my whole attitude changes immediately.

2. I could imagine the Ne-Te loop, but what I expect from people, and what I want to achieve is not something creative, artsy or "different". Maybe I read this way too literally, but I want people to stop being idiots, and try to think on their own, that's all. Maybe make criterias about who can have children. Okay, sometimes I like disturbing their ancient beliefs. Or dress in a weird way to shake them up a little bit. I find it funny.

3. Yes, I'm 20, and I think my first function may not so well-developed. I always had a problem with Fi. I mean, I need to analyze and get logical explanations about why is something so important to me. When I don't get it, I feel awkward and stupid. I'm really not this like/don't like type. This can be because of my INTJ friend. When I couldn't explain why was something important to me, I felt she's right, I can't have a decent logical conversation without this, and what's important to me doesn't really matter since it's way too subjective. The world won't get a conclusion when everyone shouts what do they like.

4. Yeah, I can't decide about Fi and Ti either. My goal in the end is about people, development and knowledge. I'm a humanitarian, but at the same time logic is way too important to me. More important than other's feelings. In a situation I usually decide based on logic, but sometimes I have to listen to my feelings. I really don't know.

But right now I'm quite sure I have a dominant/auxiliary introvert judging function (Fi maaaaybe Ti). Thanks to you, cheers! Just for fun, here's a conversation I had today.

- Do you want me to buy cream with your birthday cake?
- No, thanks. But if others want to eat cream with it, buy one.
- It's your birthday cake. (I didn't get this btw)
- This celebration is for them, not for me. We don't even like each other, they just need these family celebrations to have a stable point in their life, even if these connections in the family are dishonest.
- All right, I'll buy cream.

Thank you for the comment (and @r4ch3l), and for reading my posts to get an accurate picture about me. :cool:
 
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Still, no... I could see an ENFJ, maybe with a loop, but as I've seen IRL ENFJs, they are totally different than the description of an Fe-dom. I think it's way too idealized. Maybe I should try socionics description on types.

Anyways. Thank you for the comments, they were helpful!
 
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Anyways. Thank you for the comments, they were helpful!
It just seems so obvious to me as you're explaining things that you're using Fi and Te, even if what you're explaining is how you're not sure if you use Fi or Te. :D

I don't know what to say/do! :storks:

Fi and Te could very well be just like the ice cream. :cat:
 
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