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  1. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Whoa whoa! These threads need to be separate as I have to be a different person to talk in the other thread mentally. It is the difference of being in Plato's cave in his allegory vs. me being outside of the cave in full awareness. When I'm yelling from outside, I am no longer a philosopher. I...
  2. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Re: I'm going to yell at you from outside of the cave Ahha! Now were on the same page!
  3. Milo

    I am stupid

    I am intrigued. I wish every time a woman saw me, they would kiss their dog.
  4. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Re: I'm going to yell at you from outside of the cave Nope. High on life! Going to look at cars! Come join me in the sun!
  5. Milo

    The purpose of this subforum

    Acknowledged. Sorry about that.
  6. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Re: I'm going to yell at you from outside of the cave A cave of beautiful women that like my statuses and awkwardly my parents!
  7. Milo

    Hey all!

    Is Elegia your real name? It sounds like some sort of Pokemon.
  8. Milo

    Hey all!

    Welcome! My threads are the best. Don't be fooled by these impostors.
  9. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Re: I'm going to yell at you from outside of the cave ^He gets it! I think. Just a little confused by mixed messages contained in those emoticons. Hey! Someone just liked my facebook status!
  10. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Re: I'm going to yell at you from outside of the cave Stop watching TV. Don't believe the hype! It's melting your brain. The sun is where it's at! Hey little squirrel. I want to pet you. *Starts chasing squirrel around to exhaustion*
  11. Milo

    I am stupid

    I can run really really fast! Refer to my thread "Get out of the Cave!" http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=15870 Also, my comment is me yelling at you from outside the cave. Nonetheless, this is relevant to your soullessness.
  12. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    I'm going to yell at you from outside of the cave Hey everyone! Come outside in the real sun! Stop looking at the wall! You're all sad because the wall is boring! Come out here! You can do anything! Look! I can run really really fast!
  13. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    With the definition of instinct being as it is, you can't use instinct to go against instinct. You can act exactly the same if you are in either mindset, the difference is your attitude towards life. Do you watch parks and recreation ever? Funny show. It's on netflix. The difference between your...
  14. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instinct "Instinct or innate behavior is the inherent inclination of a living organism toward a particular complex behavior. Any behavior is instinctive if it is performed without being based upon prior experience (that is, in the absence of learning), and is...
  15. Milo

    kodama

    Nice! I didn't even recognize it before.
  16. Milo

    INTP Anonymous

    You bastard! Lol jk
  17. Milo

    INTP Anonymous

    Do whatever you want. It's your life. Don't let others tell you something is wrong with you. Their judgement is out of ignorance of your situation.
  18. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    That is exactly what I want. Your amusement is working in my interest. I don't want any contradictions here, so perfect. As for the question, then you'd be acting instinctually. Only you can know your exact instincts in each situation. The one's I've provided are just the common ones that...
  19. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    You must understand fully the definition of knowledge and understand that because of the definition, you can't possibly know anything about reality. Knowledge is in your mind and the only bit of reality you can experience is through the senses. This could be the matrix where anything can...
  20. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Boredom is of the mind. Helping others can be instinctual. We are a social species. You'll find that I'm not talking only of "euphoric pleasure." Helping others has a sort of satisfaction that I could not describe. Probably the same satisfaction I get from trying to help people gain clarity as I...
  21. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    You must know that your instinct is all that should be followed. It is your motivation, and being directed by it is what will fulfill you. There is nothing else that can make you happy. In knowing this, you can finally be content and once understood, you may be compelled to help other people...
  22. Milo

    REALLY long dreams

    I once took some melatonin and had a dream where I was stuck in a well for what seemed like hours. I scratched at the walls and tried to climb up. I could have sworn it was real pain. Nothing longer than that though.
  23. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Now I have to describe to you what is right in terms of what is not real (Ideas or "Forms" as Plato described) and is only of your mind. You must understand that these are only ideas of things. I'll quote the things that aren't real. It is "virtuous" because following one's instincts is what...
  24. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Perhaps the type does, but do not use it to label yourself because it can direct you off your own instinctual path because you have an idea of what that type is supposed to act like. I didn't say love was for saps. Love is instinctual from multiple intimate encounters with someone. That is...
  25. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    No. Nature = one's instincts. " A virtue is a positive trait or quality deemed to be morally good and thus is valued as a foundation of principle and good moral being." If something is morally good, you should do it. So it is morally good to do what you instincts want.
  26. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Also, don't let your type define you or anything because that is only an abstraction of your mind. You are creating identities that don't actually exist. All you have to do is trust your instincts and use your mind as a tool to secure what your instincts want. If I ever met a woman and knew...
  27. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    I believe this is the closest philosophy to what I am talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynicism_(philosophy) "Their philosophy was that the purpose of life was to live a life of Virtue in agreement with Nature." I would define nature as acting in accordance with your instincts and...
  28. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Yes you may view reality as such, but doing this indicates that you are still relying on your mind instead of your instincts to act in reality. One can only sense reality, not know it. Knowledge is of the mind and only comes in the form of memories of reality, we get an idea of what something...
  29. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Also, I do not agree with Malsow's Hierarchy of Needs other than the bottom row with love being instinctual after sustained sexual intimacy with the same person. He studied successful people who are only successful because they are motivated by things that are not real (variations of pride)...
  30. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    And to answer your question, yes. You can only know yourself and what you want (instinctually). Reality could change at any moment. Societies opinions are constantly changing already, so there's no hope of ever getting that right anyway.
  31. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Sorry, reread what I put. I edited it all. I was unclear the first time.
  32. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    I am an ISTP through further inspection. Possibly IXTP. EDIT: I am sorry I mixed up two different kinds of love. Let me reexplain. There are two different kinds of love. The love that you idolize and the love that is instinctual. The love that is idolized is chasing love because you think it...
  33. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    My main point is that everything above the first level of Maslow's Hierarchy are optional and require you to use your mind. The second level is wise because it helps you secure the first level. If you didn't choose to even secure the first level, you could just live entirely through instinct...
  34. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    I'm talking about the feeling of victory in pride. Remembering the past to reminisce in fond memories and holding onto them as if they are still real will only hold you back from the present. Keep looking forward and keep your core values as I've posted. Use your memories for facts to help you...
  35. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Also, that feeling you get if you win a competition. Yeah, that is your mind playing tricks on you making you think you've gotten an award when you've earned nothing at all. You've been conditioned to think that is another form of happiness, but again it is empty and only makes you idolize...
  36. Milo

    Philosophical questions from a young age.

    I was indoctrinated pretty heavily as a kid unfortunately which kept me from asking real questions. I would always ask if things were okay in a religious sense to do. I remember asking if technology was bad. Only when I stopped believing did these philosophical questions occur to me.
  37. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    I didn't see this edit before. Not sure if I already answered this question but "sinning" would matter because it means one's values are outside of one's instincts and eating or masturbating in excess could mess with one's homeostasis and make them emotionally and or physically unhealthy/unstable.
  38. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    The reason for having the things I mentioned in the OP as your core values is because they will allow you to retain homeostasis and have a healthy body and mind as well as healthy expectations to find contentment that aren't false promises believed by your mind. Also having values of the mind...
  39. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    It is important to note that Plato's implications for the allegory of the cave were for justice or "The Good" and Diogenes's definition of nature is not the same as what I am implying. What is natural would be defined as one's natural tendencies to do something. Eat because you are hungry vs...
  40. Milo

    Still in the process of writing that book?

    Still in the process of writing that book?
  41. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    I would define sin as having the wrong values. Valuing pride and wealth instead of just your bodies natural tendencies and urges. Masturbating because you have sexual tension would not be a sin. Eating a lot of food because you were really hungry wouldn't be a sin. Masturbating because you were...
  42. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Well if you figure out the Truth and are 100% sure, you're probably going to be dogmatic about it. Haha. The truth of this is found inside of you, so if you have clarity you just know it. It's not even a thing where you are supposed to have faith to know it like people try to do with the...
  43. Milo

    Get out of the Cave!

    Well I suppose you might need to believe these words to redirect you into not believing any more of them. It's all about what you value. Don't let anyone's words direct you away from your natural tendencies. The ones I've listed in the OP.
  44. Milo

    This is a way clearer view of what enlightenment actually is. I was still in disillusionment...

    This is a way clearer view of what enlightenment actually is. I was still in disillusionment when I wrote that thinking I was right. http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=15870 I'm 100% sure I have clarity this time though. Lol
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