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Does this sound like an INTJ or INTP?

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These are a few descriptions of the poet Emily Bronte by people who knew her:

"She should have been a man – a great navigator. Her powerful reason would have deduced new spheres of discovery from the knowledge of the old; and her strong imperious will would never have been daunted by opposition or difficulty, never have given way but with life. She had a head for logic, and a capability of argument unusual in a man and rarer indeed in a woman... impairing this gift was her stubborn tenacity of will which rendered her obtuse to all reasoning where her own wishes, or her own sense of right, was concerned." - Her French instructor, Constantin Héger

"My sister's disposition was not naturally gregarious; circumstances favoured and fostered her tendency to seclusion; except to go to church or take a walk on the hills, she rarely crossed the threshold of home. Though her feeling for the people round was benevolent, intercourse with them she never sought; nor, with very few exceptions, ever experienced. And yet she know them: knew their ways, their language, their family histories; she could hear of them with interest, and talk of them with detail, minute, graphic, and accurate; but WITH them, she rarely exchanged a word." - Charlotte Bronte (Emily's sister)

Based on the previous descriptions, do you think that Emily was an INTP or INTJ.
 

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INTJ...

The strong sense of "right" described by the instructor, hindering ability to see all perspectives and bigger picture, and also the ability to talk in "detail" about all family members, are both evidence for the INTJ diagnosis.

An INTP would probably garner a more objective characterization by an instructor, and would tend to be more oblivious to the minute details of his/her family members' lives.
 

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INTP.



INTJ...

The strong sense of "right" described by the instructor, hindering ability to see all perspectives and bigger picture, and also the ability to talk in "detail" about all family members, are both evidence for the INTJ diagnosis.

An INTP would probably garner a more objective characterization by an instructor, and would tend to be more oblivious to the minute details of his/her family members' lives.

I wish I had the patience to help you through this.
 

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you guys/gals are only guessing INTP because you can relate with the generally accepted positive traits listed; you're not really paying attention to what separates the introverts apart from each other; I can be pretty sure of the J part; since INFJ was not a choice, I did not consider that yet, but it also could make sense.
 

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-Goku said:
The strong sense of "right" described by the instructor, hindering ability to see all perspectives and bigger picture, and also the ability to talk in "detail" about all family members, are both evidence for the INTJ diagnosis.

Not really.

My mum is INTJ, and I can speak in detail about my family members more than she can, and I'd say it's common for INTP's to be viewed as the, 'gifted but misguided' student by their teachers and/or peers.

An INTP would probably garner a more objective characterization by an instructor, and would tend to be more oblivious to the minute details of his/her family members' lives.

Not really. INTJ's typically become rather talkative as they develop their auxiliary Te - especially when they're in an environment of familiarity or discussing a topic they know about, INTJ's can even be hard to shut up. They're also not that much of a stickler for minute details, whereas INTP's can be, if the topic is of interest to them - primary Ti-Si loop.

I can be pretty sure of the J part.

Considering all 16 types have a J function as primary or auxiliary, I'm pretty sure on the J part too.
 

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you guys/gals are only guessing INTP because you can relate with the generally accepted positive traits listed; you're not really paying attention to what separates the introverts apart from each other; I can be pretty sure of the J part; since INFJ was not a choice, I did not consider that yet, but it also could make sense.

Actually, I have guessed INTP because the character type-description is extremely similar to the introverted thinking type, as described by Jung, so similar in fact that I can confidently state there is a match.

You, are guessing INTJ based on basic, primitive, unreliable, worn out stereotypes you have picked up/formed to fill in large gaps in your understanding of the MBTI and cognitive functions. Particularly, you seem to have a fixed stereotype that Ti types (or at least INTP) are not prone to falling victim to such things as

"Falling obtuse to all reasoning, where [their] own wishes or sense of right are concerned",

Although Jung makes clear reference to this behaviour in Types. I am not up for quoting it at this time, but you know well enough that I won't hesitate further if you keep up with your distasteful stereotyping instead of "being open minded".

You're so fixed on MBTI dichotomies that it forms the sole basis for your application of typology. Sorry, but, that won't cut it, you can't hide your lack of knowledge just by pretending. I have noticed that our interactions tend to resort to picking apart each other's behaviour but perhaps you could think about the relevant discussion itself, when you reply?? (as I have at least made an attempt at the same)

There is also ample mention of inferior Fe from the excerpt of her sister, sort of a twisted depiction of somebody who feels the "push and pull" feelings so characteristic of this type. A feeling of repressed benevolence coupled with overt detachment are hallmark traits of the Ti-Fe struggle.
 

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I'm guessing INTP. I don't think INTJs would only settle to be a poet in his/her lifetime.
 

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@Cyon, note that she was a Sunday School teacher for about half of her life. She also became a general School Teacher for about a year, but she quit.
 
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