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The troubled minds are the most brilliant of minds. The sinister intent of these minds are the bane of humanity, but they are also the saviours of the inner essence of the tranquility of the human collective. You see, evidence is not the key to the door to the inner essence of man, but the belief in something that is held dear to each and every man is the key to unlocking the mind. How does one believe?

When one prostrates to the inner workings of a dimension of the world that is not human nor machine. You see, there's a world between the two that promises the relinquishment of the priorities of man within life.

Each and every one of you has a responsibility to have the courage to live or to die within a realm of uncertainty, ambiguity and cataclysm.

So what will it be?

What will it be, INTP Forum?

Do you wish to exhalt yourselves?? Do you wish to enhance the inner essence of man?

Do you know what love is? Do you know what love is within man?

It is the expression of what it means to be human to another human being.

So take heed.

Take heed.

And wander.

Wander and decay.

Wander and flay.

You are justice and freedom.

You are the psychosis of the mind.

And, you are the essence of despair.
 

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Sigastrialomundinjia

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Sigastrialomundinjia could be a serious infection.

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Re: Sigastrialomundinjia

y-You... you use that layout.... I am not sure if I can forgive you...


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y-You... you use that layout.... I am not sure if I can forgive you...

On my work computer. People tend to take an interesting in what I am doing if the forum is in its black format.
 

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Ahh, that would make sense.
 

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The troubled minds are the most brilliant of minds. The sinister intent of these minds are the bane of humanity, but they are also the saviours of the inner essence of the tranquility of the human collective. You see, evidence is not the key to the door to the inner essence of man, but the belief in something that is held dear to each and every man is the key to unlocking the mind. How does one believe?

When one prostrates to the inner workings of a dimension of the world that is not human nor machine. You see, there's a world between the two that promises the relinquishment of the priorities of man within life.

Each and every one of you has a responsibility to have the courage to live or to die within a realm of uncertainty, ambiguity and cataclysm.

So what will it be?

What will it be, INTP Forum?

Do you wish to exhalt yourselves?? Do you wish to enhance the inner essence of man?

Do you know what love is? Do you know what love is within man?

It is the expression of what it means to be human to another human being.

So take heed.

Take heed.

And wander.

Wander and decay.

Wander and flay.

You are justice and freedom.

You are the psychosis of the mind.

And, you are the essence of despair.


Your posts are smart :cat:
 

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Re: Sigastrialomundinjia

PLEASE DO NOT BAN. Go away over-active moderators. His content is interesting and full of very intelligent symbolism that you might miss because of superficial posting style. Let the community live a little.
 

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Re: Sigastrialomundinjia

I haven't read his posts I just saw 30 posts in 15 min :P On a side note it's not you is it? Conspiracy... :phear:
 

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I would like to state that no one in this thread wants anyone to be banned.
 

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Well I do not know I just want to say that his post made me ask and answer myself few more questions and make my move now. And even though I find it weird it works. I would not predict this...
 

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On a side note it's not you is it? Conspiracy... :phear:

Whatever made you think that?

PLEASE DO NOT BAN. Go away over-active moderators. His content is interesting and full of very intelligent symbolism that you might miss because of superficial posting style. Let the community live a little.

You never get bored of this, do you?

I do. Quickly.
 

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Boom.
 

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Seriously, who didn't know this was Lyra from the get go? :rolleyes:

I thought we were keeping it going because the forum is dying?


Also, why do these new people always crop up when I'm here? ^^
 

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headshot.

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Basically, I thought everyone knew that it was Lyra and they were just playing along you know... for funzies?


Obviously not it seems. It which case, there are a lot of suckers on here :/
 

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Whatever made you think that?

Everything I don't know I can work out with intuition! Although to be honest it wasn't rocket science.
 

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Basically, I thought everyone knew that it was Lyra and they were just playing along you know... for funzies?

There's a long history to this. Lyra is fond of the multiple personality game. Administration does not approve of this, as has been repeatedly stated. We are quite lenient, but there are some lines we like to keep pretty clear.

Filling the place in derision and self-congratulatory "I'm better than you, twats" torrents of verbiage is not the way to "save" this forum from "dying". It's Lyra needs to find other places or forms of entertainment.
 

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There's a long history to this. Lyra is fond of the multiple personality game. Administration does not approve of this, as has been repeatedly stated. We are quite lenient, but there are some lines we like to keep pretty clear.

Filling the place in derision and self-congratulatory "I'm better than you, twats" torrents of verbiage is not the way to "save" this forum from "dying". It's Lyra needs to find other places or forms of entertainment.

I was being sarcastic about the forum dying. It isn't dying and anyone that thinks it is, is deluded.

Also, I am fully aware of Lyra's history with the forum as I was here before Lyra appeared as XIII.

From a rules perspective though, the banning of multiple accounts makes sense. So whilst amusing as I find people falling for it, the banning of the multiple accounts is inevitable.

Jolly good show.
 

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He made interesting posts. This forum is starting to get a censored feel... Don't like that

edit: lots of history im missing etc etc of course, nvm me
 

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Oh no you can get away with quite a lot here, I should know, but there are boundaries that shouldn't be crossed and by making multiple accounts with intent to use them simultaneously to deceive people is crossing one such line.

There are some people, myself for instance, who have created new accounts in an attempt to escape the personality associated with the old one, for a while I went by Artifice Orisit, which didn't get me banned (though I did get in some trouble) mainly because my intent was not to do wrong by the forum, whereas Lyra's was.
 

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I think Lyra just likes to probe people and make them consider their perspective. It's not necessarily a bad thing to do.

I've read some of the stuff posted and found it quite interesting although I don't necessarily agree with it. It's not like anyone is being forced to think a certain way or forced to read what is posted.
 

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This account just was not me. That's a fact. I liked the posts and they were unusually similar to my perspective but it simply was not me and my recent actions have not just been some kind of superiority trolling. They've been points about the limits and potential functioning of humans, and the use of models and ways of relating to identity on this forum.

Please research IP etc. information further, because I am right in this case.

@loveofreason @Fukyo please reconsider allowing the 'XIII III' thread to be closed, given that it was clearly having some kind of epiphany/positive impact on certain members, and given that it was above all making a point. I don't 'troll' or play games nowadays-- it's more that I am a different kind of human 'game', or pattern. One these models don't account for, and that I find I can use to give others some insight into the possibilities of life. I really think this sudden 'shutdown', locking my thread (the culmination of many months of work), and accusing random people of being me is a bad idea. It's also just factually wrong.

I have more that I want to write in that thread, and dor has more images and drawings she wants to post. What's the problem with us continuing to do so? It's art.

That @Kuu doesn't appreciate the art is fine, but I really think it's taking it too far for that lack of appreciation to be a basis for shutting down. This is a forum largely about human functioning, and I am making embodied/demonstrated points about it, and art in relation to it. It's not in standard format. It's not necessarily 'nice'. But it isn't just self-congratulatory bullshit. I put an immense amount of genuine dedication and work in, that sometimes others find informative; that work has included hugely in-depth research into all the models in the field, including visual reading, and my current work builds upon, combines, recombines, and makes a point about all of those deeply researched aspects. I really think this forum is at its best characterised by a more open attitude towards novel forms of information presentation and ways of approaching life, and that spirit extends to not forcing somebody into the personality moulds models here dictate (which simply don't fit me-- see Dor's note 'Lyra is unstable is his stabilities, Dor is stable in her instability').

The things I want to say, I simply can't say in the abstract. I have to be them first. Many will think I'm just bullshitting or whatever, but some get the message I want. Please allow for that process to happen naturally, and for me to be what I actually am, not-- which is the whole point-- what you already assume a genuine human to be. I just don't work like that.

Edit: so just to restate, as well, I haven't read most of the banned account's posts and they are not my words. I liked the few I read and could see a ban coming because of volume. That's the entire extent of the story, and I hope the person comes back or mods research more. There just cannot be any evidence to the contrary, because it is not the case.
 

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Uh-Oh Spaghettios

Look at the paranoia you've caused :D
 

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Sorry. Not interested in your games.

I think we went over this some what, years before? Yawn.

:rip:

*Braces self, multi-identity whining imminent.

Sigastrialomundinjia is permabanned for being Lyra.

So I'm reviving this thing so that certain people don't go whining.
There probably will be lots of whining anyway. Sigh.

Look, this isn't whining. You banned somebody in error and closed a thread I put a lot of work and art into over a long period of time. I think it's fair for me to respond to that without it being immediately dismissed/refused the possibility of merit as 'whining'?

My intention was to let the whole culmination that thread represented to stay in that thread, in an understated kind of way. There's no risk to the forum generally, most of whom won't notice. No multiples or whatever. All I was going to do there was continue telling the same story for those interested in listening.

I do work via a very fractured and track-jumping and hierarchical kind of identity-structure, but this account was not me and that does not mean that because of events in the past that structure is inherently to do with trolling now. It's just the kind of being I am, and any story or investigation or intellectual synthesis I undertake to present has to be via it for it really to be accurate and my art. A lot of what you mistake for dishonesty is just that I'm not able to constrain myself to this one-body/one-normally-functioning-identity kind of game in precisely the same way as might be natural to you. It doesn't make all my posts facile or empty or about self-congratulation.

Also given the level I've been playing at for months, just creating another account would be facile and distracting by comparison. Every half-assed troll does that. In this case I did not.

@Fukyo @loveofreason @Kuu @Cavallier
 

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Not that my say means anything in light of recent events.

Whilst I agreed that multiple accounts should be banned (which in this case may not actually apply), locking the thread was unwarranted as it wasn't causing harm to anyone.

Being bored or disinterested in a topic does not justify its closure as these opinions are subjective.
 

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This account just was not me. That's a fact. I liked the posts and they were unusually similar to my perspective but it simply was not me and my recent actions have not just been some kind of superiority trolling. They've been points about the limits and potential functioning of humans, and the use of models and ways of relating to identity on this forum.

Please research IP etc. information further, because I am right in this case.

@loveofreason @Fukyo please reconsider allowing the 'XIII III' thread to be closed, given that it was clearly having some kind of epiphany/positive impact on certain members, and given that it was above all making a point. I don't 'troll' or play games nowadays-- it's more that I am a different kind of human 'game', or pattern. One these models don't account for, and that I find I can use to give others some insight into the possibilities of life. I really think this sudden 'shutdown', locking my thread (the culmination of many months of work), and accusing random people of being me is a bad idea. It's also just factually wrong.

I have more that I want to write in that thread, and dor has more images and drawings she wants to post. What's the problem with us continuing to do so? It's art.

That @Kuu doesn't appreciate the art is fine, but I really think it's taking it too far for that lack of appreciation to be a basis for shutting down. This is a forum largely about human functioning, and I am making embodied/demonstrated points about it, and art in relation to it. It's not in standard format. It's not necessarily 'nice'. But it isn't just self-congratulatory bullshit. I put an immense amount of genuine dedication and work in, that sometimes others find informative; that work has included hugely in-depth research into all the models in the field, including visual reading, and my current work builds upon, combines, recombines, and makes a point about all of those deeply researched aspects. I really think this forum is at its best characterised by a more open attitude towards novel forms of information presentation and ways of approaching life, and that spirit extends to not forcing somebody into the personality moulds models here dictate (which simply don't fit me-- see Dor's note 'Lyra is unstable is his stabilities, Dor is stable in her instability').

The things I want to say, I simply can't say in the abstract. I have to be them first. Many will think I'm just bullshitting or whatever, but some get the message I want. Please allow for that process to happen naturally, and for me to be what I actually am, not-- which is the whole point-- what you already assume a genuine human to be. I just don't work like that.

Edit: so just to restate, as well, I haven't read most of the banned account's posts and they are not my words. I liked the few I read and could see a ban coming because of volume. That's the entire extent of the story, and I hope the person comes back or mods research more. There just cannot be any evidence to the contrary, because it is not the case.

The problem with only using IP addresses is that you could be using a different computer or an IP randomizer that would make it appear that the accounts were coming for two different places.

However the massive number of post in a small time frame and you quick endorsement along with your checkered history make is seem very unlikely that this is some random dude that come off the street and posted 30 posts. especially since many of them were negative in nature meant to cause a fuss.

This is my opinion and I am not a moderator so I don't have any say. I am just saying if you only defense is an IP address then your defense is a bit shallow.
 

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The problem with only using IP addresses is that you could be using a different computer or an IP randomizer that would make it appear that the accounts were coming for two different places.

However the massive number of post in a small time frame and you quick endorsement along with your checkered history make is seem very unlikely that this is some random dude that come off the street and posted 30 posts. especially since many of them were negative in nature meant to cause a fuss.

This is my opinion and I am not a moderator so I don't have any say. I am just saying if you only defense is an IP address then your defense is a bit shallow.

I don't have a 'defense' for God's sake, as no evidence has been presented. The fact is that it isn't me. 'Checkered history'? Please look into basic legal procedures and why these kinds of things aren't allowed to be presented.

This is absurd.

Ban that account or whatever anyway. I'd have liked to have the person around but I don't care that much. I really just want to be able to continue posting my art/creation to that thread, and talking to people who find it interesting.
 

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I don't have a 'defense' for God's sake, as no evidence has been presented. The fact is that it isn't me. 'Checkered history'? Please look into basic legal procedures and why these kinds of things aren't allowed to be presented.

This is absurd.

Ban that account or whatever anyway. I'd have liked to have the person around but I don't care that much. I really just want to be able to continue posting my art/creation to that thread, and talking to people who find it interesting.

Where not in a legal court room here. The person don't need to be found guilty beyond a reason of doubt. Being banned form this sight is not like going to prison or the death penalty. It not even as harsh as small claims court were they can use your history to help with a verdict.
 

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To summarise:

Sigastrialomundinjia could be an altogether different person. One was on Mac OS and the other was on Windows. a virtual machine could fake this I suppose.

Lyra would like Sigastrialomundinjia to be unbanned, but is not particularly fussed about this. I mean if it isn't Lyra, then a person has been banned technically wrongfully as they didn't break any of the forum rules.

XIII-III thread should be unlocked irrespective of multiple account accusations as the only reason it appears to have been locked is due to subjective disinterest.
 

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Honestly I think it's Sparrow or own8ge. Only other guess I can make, given Pod'Lair references and tendency to flip out, is Nyxyia, but that would be insane and it's not an accusation I'm making.

But either way things like the following are not my style and I did not say them. I just didn't, never have, and wouldn't enjoy doing so:

'Everyone in this thread should eat their own feces. /thread.'
'Everyone migrate to that forum. This forum is trash.'
'I didn't take the test, but I knew it was stupid. Don't take these tests. Don't waste your time. Or, rather, waste your time. The more time you waste, the smarter I become. Idiots.'
'Video games are for degenerates. For everything else, try online Poker.'
'Fuck that cunt. She isn't even human. I hope she rots in hell, that demented fucking cunt with not an atom of compassion, passion, nor humanity.

She is a reptilian cunt.'
'It ain't useful because INTP is bullshit. Zai'nyy is the way to go. Or Ti-Ne, but no the Auburn way. He's a disenchanted fool who is always a million steps behind the enlightened fellas of the world.' (<Not my writing style).
'He's a turd. Won't miss him.

He's an arrogant prick. Some will miss him.

He's a foolish old turd. Most will miss him.

He's a decrepit punk. Everyone will miss him.

IS THIS THE STATE TEH WORLD IS IN? IS IT'
'Eyeseecold, acquire some taste, you turd. Screamno dreamo, aaaaaaaaaaaaaah.!'

I might talk arrogantly but it's never like that, and I did not say those things, and I want everyone to know that I did not say them. Actually, reading them (I only read his more interesting posts before, by chance), I don't care at all about the banning and support it. It's just clutter. It reminds me of own8ge (who I also tried to get unbanned, if you remember, before it just became abusive/irrelevant nonsense).

Anyone who knows me knows I just don't say things like 'turd' or insult people in that kind of way. It's not in my vocabulary and it was not me. Whoever it was made references to me 'dark materials' etc., but there's nothing I can do about that.
 

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Case A. Lyra dupe > Ban.
Case B. Obnoxious Lyra associate / human proxy > Ban.
Case C. Sparrow dupe > Ban.
Case D. Unrelated, clearly obnoxious third party > Ban.
 

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Case A. Lyra dupe > Ban.
Case B. Obnoxious Lyra associate / human proxy > Ban.
Case C. Sparrow dupe > Ban.
Case D. Unrelated, clearly obnoxious third party > Ban.

Sure, that's fine. Like I said, I support the ban. But that doesn't cover the main points made here, about the closing of the thread.

That is not called for at all, and the only reason you gave was your personal disinterest. Others were interested, it was developing, art was being posted by members other than myself, a point was being demonstrated/made (even if it wasn't one of interest to you), and I was building upon months of research into personality and its potential/limits/functioning.

You've made clear you conflated it with the other 'condescending' 'verbiage' being spewed over the forum (not by me). But that's not what it was, and that you didn't see that doesn't mean it's without value.
 

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Honestly I think it's Sparrow or own8ge. Only other guess I can make, given Pod'Lair references and tendency to flip out, is Nyxyia, but that would be insane and it's not an accusation I'm making.

But either way things like the following are not my style and I did not say them. I just didn't, never have, and wouldn't enjoy doing so:

'Everyone in this thread should eat their own feces. /thread.'
'Everyone migrate to that forum. This forum is trash.'
'I didn't take the test, but I knew it was stupid. Don't take these tests. Don't waste your time. Or, rather, waste your time. The more time you waste, the smarter I become. Idiots.'
'Video games are for degenerates. For everything else, try online Poker.'
'Fuck that cunt. She isn't even human. I hope she rots in hell, that demented fucking cunt with not an atom of compassion, passion, nor humanity.

She is a reptilian cunt.'
'It ain't useful because INTP is bullshit. Zai'nyy is the way to go. Or Ti-Ne, but no the Auburn way. He's a disenchanted fool who is always a million steps behind the enlightened fellas of the world.' (<Not my writing style).
'He's a turd. Won't miss him.

He's an arrogant prick. Some will miss him.

He's a foolish old turd. Most will miss him.

He's a decrepit punk. Everyone will miss him.

IS THIS THE STATE TEH WORLD IS IN? IS IT'
'Eyeseecold, acquire some taste, you turd. Screamno dreamo, aaaaaaaaaaaaaah.!'

I might talk arrogantly but it's never like that, and I did not say those things, and I want everyone to know that I did not say them. Actually, reading them (I only read his more interesting posts before, by chance), I don't care at all about the banning and support it. It's just clutter. It reminds me of own8ge (who I also tried to get unbanned, if you remember, before it just became abusive/irrelevant nonsense).

Anyone who knows me knows I just don't say things like 'turd' or insult people in that kind of way. It's not in my vocabulary and it was not me.

Fair enough with this type of evidence I may find it harsh to ban you. However, you were not banned and maybe you were not this guy. However, form his comments I don't see why he wouldn't be banned.

To be honest I am assuming you are quite intelligent therefore I still wouldn't put it pass you to make this guy up. However, I don't think banning him and not you was uncalled for. If the Admins had more evidence they might actually try to ban you but form your observation I would doubt that the IP addresses don't match. So to be fair it may not be you.

However, I could make 10 different account form the 8 different IPs that me and my wife own with out even haven't to get a program to change or mask my IP. We own 4 different lap tops. 2 old ones and 2 new ones. My wife has a tablet. We both have smart phones hers is a iPhone and my runs on Android. My wife also owns an android tablet and we have a smart tv that has internet access (I have never used this feature yet but I assume that I could if I wanted to).

We may have more internet access points then the normal home but I am sure most home have at least 3 or 4 these days.

Let it be known that I believe it possible that someone also made this account other then Lyra. However who ever made the account made sure they couldn't be linked to a different account. I am sure it is someone who currently or previously has had an account because they reference other material that were common an the forum up to about a week ago. Arburn hasn't posted in over a week form what I can tell.

It is a bit more forward then Own8ge normally is. Also a bit more thoughtful then his normal posts. However, may it was him I don't know.
 

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Whatever. You can go make art again but don't forget you're not the owner of the canvas. I ain't touching this again. I'll leave it to the others to reach their own conclusions and decisions.
 

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Whatever. You can go make art again. I ain't touching this again. I'll leave it to the others to reach their own conclusions and decisions.


Sorry for being off topic but I just realize that you are form Jurassic Park. How do you like it and are you going to be in the 4th movie when it comes out?
 

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Re: Sigastrialomundinjia

If it only posted unconstructive spam would a deletion be better than just a ban? To remove the clutter I mean.
 

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Please amend the ban announcement 'Sigastrialomundinjia is permabanned for being Lyra.' to reflect the strength of your evidence and the actual reasons for banning. I did not insult the members s/he insulted and it shouldn't be stated as proven fact that I did.
 

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The troubled minds are the most brilliant of minds. The sinister intent of these minds are the bane of humanity, but they are also the saviours of the inner essence of the tranquility of the human collective. You see, evidence is not the key to the door to the inner essence of man, but the belief in something that is held dear to each and every man is the key to unlocking the mind. How does one believe?

When one prostrates to the inner workings of a dimension of the world that is not human nor machine. You see, there's a world between the two that promises the relinquishment of the priorities of man within life.

Each and every one of you has a responsibility to have the courage to live or to die within a realm of uncertainty, ambiguity and cataclysm.

So what will it be?

What will it be, INTP Forum?

Do you wish to exhalt yourselves?? Do you wish to enhance the inner essence of man?

Do you know what love is? Do you know what love is within man?

It is the expression of what it means to be human to another human being.

So take heed.

Take heed.

And wander.

Wander and decay.

Wander and flay.

You are justice and freedom.

You are the psychosis of the mind.

And, you are the essence of despair.

*sigh* Where's the logic?

-Duxwing
 

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Re: Sigastrialomundinjia

Please amend the ban announcement 'Sigastrialomundinjia is permabanned for being Lyra.' to reflect the strength of your evidence and the actual reasons for banning. I did not insult the members s/he insulted and it shouldn't be stated as proven fact that I did.

*laughs* Pfft. Lyra, you've said yourself that you see this forum as nothing more than a plaything and an opportunity to experiment with different personalities. And I've read your "Dark Materials": you see posting as a way to make 'art' with 'symbolism' that we 'superficial' posters cannot understand without being as totally and completely 'enlightened' as you are. So when a new Ni-dom arrives with an introit thread talking about exactly your ideas and floods the forum with posts in your style, we logically conclude that you've decided that neither rules nor reason will stop you from doing what you want when you want to do it. The jig is up, so confess.

-Duxwing
 

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it was me
 

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Re: Sigastrialomundinjia

Uh... that sounded wonderful Dux, but, funnily enough, it actually just wasn't me. Nothing more I can really say on that. And they weren't my ideas, really. Certainly not my style. I also don't see why it's more like me that it is like own8ge or whoever (or anybody) giving an off me impression.

Dormouse was with me the whole time, and, not that she'd be believed, also knows it wasn't me.

This is tiresome. Given that this actually wasn't me, I really didn't intend for or desire this absurd drama.
 

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:rolleyes: If so, then you give the best Lyra impression that I've ever seen.

-Duxwing

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