Your IQ & Occupation

[Valentas]

There is a 52-question IQ test online that has a rather high reliability to professional tests. It mainly tests quant/visual abilities.

It starts easy and gets really hard.

The link is here: http://www.cerebrals.org/jcti/

WARNING: I did the test without knowing how many questions there are and hence got bored towards 30th question or so. There are 52 questions and it should make it easier for you to do it. There is no time limit, don't rush.

I'll start.

Index: 120
Occupation: software developer
How difficult college was: 8/10. I studied a lot to compete with other smart people in my degree. My scores were in range of 70-80% even with a lot of studying. I could not pass companies like Google Interviews.

 

[QuickTwist]

Yes, I have taken this test before, GREAT IQ TEST!

Results:

https://intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=343527&postcount=6

 

[Black Rose]

I do not have Adobe Flash.
Adobe Flash lets malware attack your computer.

I took the official test (WAIS 4)
I got 113
I am on Disability Income,
I took it free for diagnostic purposes.

 

[Valentas]

Yes, I have taken this test before, GREAT IQ TEST!

Results:

https://intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=343527&postcount=6

Nice. It is indeed a tough test. I tried to spend less than 45 mins on it and did not know how many questions there are so got frustrated and bored at number 40 or so. I think this indicates my brain got tired at this point and I personally think I am more of 115 IQ or so right now.

I have health issues and can never sleep well and am always brain foggy. If I could resolve that, maybe my IQ would rise because I would not take tests while being tired all the time.

However, you did not state your major and your occupation. I am interested in the sample of people and what they do. I especially wonder if doctors are indeed high on IQ scale because some official research seem to indicate very high minimum IQ of around 115 to be a doc. Could you edit your post with more info?

 

[Black Rose]

Average scores of Degrees

Bachelor's degree: 115
Masters Degree: 120
Doctorate Degree: 125

 

[Valentas]

Average scores of Degrees

Bachelor's degree: 115
Masters Degree: 120
Doctorate Degree: 125

Honestly sounds about right. I worked hard in my degree but certainly not as hard as I could have. In other words, I could get a Masters degree if I really put in the effort but PhD would probably be difficult. I actually never wanted to go PhD route at all which probably indicates that my brain is 'scared' of that.

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

This was definitely a test in patience more than anything. 124 with clicking randomly on the last 5 or so.

Occupation: applied-mathematician.

 

[TheManBeyond]

IQ: 666
Occupation: witch hunter

 

[QuickTwist]

Nice. It is indeed a tough test. I tried to spend less than 45 mins on it and did not know how many questions there are so got frustrated and bored at number 40 or so. I think this indicates my brain got tired at this point and I personally think I am more of 115 IQ or so right now.

I have health issues and can never sleep well and am always brain foggy. If I could resolve that, maybe my IQ would rise because I would not take tests while being tired all the time.

However, you did not state your major and your occupation. I am interested in the sample of people and what they do. I especially wonder if doctors are indeed high on IQ scale because some official research seem to indicate very high minimum IQ of around 115 to be a doc. Could you edit your post with more info?

My occupation is full time crazy person, literally. In other words, I am on SSI because I cannot hold a job down because I am mentally impaired in one way or another.

 

[AndyC]

What did you get for 23?

 

[QuickTwist]

What did you get for 23?

Jim Carrey.

 

[AndyC]

It's easy to overthink things, look for complicated patterns when the better approach is to conjecture something simple, more simple than you think is necessary, and it works!

 

[AndyC]

The good thing about these tests are, you can try different methods of investigation. My readings of "How to Solve It" have given me tools that make this test seem quite easy.

 

[AndyC]

Got 140 for reasoning index scale, but probably because I committed more than you guys.
If this had verbal, I probably would have received a much lower score.
Occupation: High School Prick.

 

[AndyC]

And confidence interval: 133-143 whatever that is

 

[QuickTwist]

It's easy to overthink things, look for complicated patterns when the better approach is to conjecture something simple, more simple than you think is necessary, and it works!

Occam's Razor.

 

[AndyC]

Yes, it is apparently quite valid when compared to other more popular tests. It's annoying I didn't finish the test given it's accuracy, I will have to wait at least 6 months to take it again.
Interesting test given my own processes, it very much depends on state of mind and methods of investigation. I'm sure one could improve their score if they have a good grasp of their own thought processes and are capable of updating them accordingly.
The test reveals a lot about intelligence that other tests seem to fail to do due to some unnecessary and distracting additions.

 

[Valentas]

Yes, it is apparently quite valid when compared to other more popular tests. It's annoying I didn't finish the test given it's accuracy, I will have to wait at least 6 months to take it again.
Interesting test given my own processes, it very much depends on state of mind and methods of investigation. I'm sure one could improve their score if they have a good grasp of their own thought processes and are capable of updating them accordingly.
The test reveals a lot about intelligence that other tests seem to fail to do due to some unnecessary and distracting additions.

Having been an objector to IQ tests for years, mainly due to my ignorance of actual real-world tests available, I found that IQ is one of the best predictors of life success. Knowing this information, wouldn't it make sense to test a school leaver's IQ, then they can make a decision of a profession based on evidenced intelligence. In other words, it makes sense to have reliable data compiled of IQs of various professions and then it makes sense to select fields where you would fall into upper quartile of professionals because you can then thrive in those fields due to being close to the top.

Happiness = Reality / Expectations. If you base your decisions on reality, then you have reasonable expectations that produce happiness. Would it make sense to see that physicists score 115 at the lowest but satisfactory success group is 130 and above? Would a teenager with 105 should still major in physics?

However, it also seems to me that once a person has intelligence to 'get' the subject rather easily, we then call such people talented or gifted in this field, thinking that it is some genetic variation that enables them to be good at something particular. While in reality, if that person excels in physics, he can also excel at computer science because average IQ scores are lower for this subject. However, since physics is more challenging (arguably), that person naturally gravitates towards what is more enjoyable to him. In other words, people probably sort themselves into IQ buckets quite efficiently without testing proposed at the beginning of this wall of test because we enjoy ideas and work where we progress. I think that a person 'infused' with better neural system instead of their own, i.e. with better nerve conductivity, larger grey/white matter areas associated with intelligence, would then find the subject they detest enjoyable because they start to make strides and progress and have relatively manageable effort vs. reward ratio put into the area of study or work.

 

[AndyC]

I would disagree, developing metacognition is a very powerful way to reach, perhaps, go beyond one's potential. The accuracy of IQ I am no expert on, there are others on the forum who would know more than I, but personally I don't believe IQ has much worth. Say I was wrong, and that IQ was in fact a good predictor, there is overwhelming evidence against its being a set quantity for any individual and there are many critical factors to one's success other than, that are just as necessary as IQ. My knowledge and reflections suggest that intelligence alone does not have much significance in predicting the future achievements of any particular person, but knowledge, mindset and hard work make up at the very least 80% of any possible outcomes.
As for giftedness, normally processes are favored towards particular subjects and not others. Smart people usually have an acute talent for a few fields, and the transivity of intellect is not a general phenomena. I think the kind of smart you're referring to suggests a personality, when this is not actually the case for the majority.

 

[QuickTwist]

Having been an objector to IQ tests for years, mainly due to my ignorance of actual real-world tests available, I found that IQ is one of the best predictors of life success. Knowing this information, wouldn't it make sense to test a school leaver's IQ, then they can make a decision of a profession based on evidenced intelligence. In other words, it makes sense to have reliable data compiled of IQs of various professions and then it makes sense to select fields where you would fall into upper quartile of professionals because you can then thrive in those fields due to being close to the top.

Happiness = Reality / Expectations. If you base your decisions on reality, then you have reasonable expectations that produce happiness. Would it make sense to see that physicists score 115 at the lowest but satisfactory success group is 130 and above? Would a teenager with 105 should still major in physics?

However, it also seems to me that once a person has intelligence to 'get' the subject rather easily, we then call such people talented or gifted in this field, thinking that it is some genetic variation that enables them to be good at something particular. While in reality, if that person excels in physics, he can also excel at computer science because average IQ scores are lower for this subject. However, since physics is more challenging (arguably), that person naturally gravitates towards what is more enjoyable to him. In other words, people probably sort themselves into IQ buckets quite efficiently without testing proposed at the beginning of this wall of test because we enjoy ideas and work where we progress. I think that a person 'infused' with better neural system instead of their own, i.e. with better nerve conductivity, larger grey/white matter areas associated with intelligence, would then find the subject they detest enjoyable because they start to make strides and progress and have relatively manageable effort vs. reward ratio put into the area of study or work.

How would you categorize myself? We scored the same number on the same IQ test, but as it turns out, you are much more accomplished than I am. In short, IQ only measures potential and is not a direct correlation coefficient.

In terms of what one CAN accomplish, IQ may be a valuable tool to finding that out, however, IQ is not the only variable for success.

 

[Valentas]

I would disagree, developing metacognition is a very powerful way to reach, perhaps, go beyond one's potential. The accuracy of IQ I am no expert on, there are others on the forum who would know more than I, but personally I don't believe IQ has much worth. Say I was wrong, and that IQ was in fact a good predictor, there is overwhelming evidence against its being a set quantity for any individual and there are many critical factors to one's success other than, that are just as necessary as IQ. My knowledge and reflections suggest that intelligence alone does not have much significance in predicting the future achievements of any particular person, but knowledge, mindset and hard work make up at the very least 80% of any possible outcomes.
As for giftedness, normally processes are favored towards particular subjects and not others. Smart people usually have an acute talent for a few fields, and the transivity of intellect is not a general phenomena. I think the kind of smart you're referring to suggests a personality, when this is not actually the case for the majority.

IQ has lots of worth according to the research I read. It is one of the most important discoveries about humans that we've made. The correlations between GDP per capita, individual major choices and income are significant and tightly corresponds to my experience of smarter people than me indeed gaining more success from the get go. You still need to work hard though.

If someone found a way to improve IQ, then that person would be rich right now. The only direction IQ can go and is proven to go is down as you age though. Surely, hard work, mindset, your health and energy to perform that hard work is crucial. But as the saying goes, hard work beats talent, until talent starts to work hard. If two people with 20 IQ points difference work hard, the 'smarter' one will simply get to the goal faster. This is the difference that I see between people, smarter humans can get to a goal faster.

Basically, your thesis is correct with regards to external efforts, but internal hardware is the enabler of groups of people to see through tasks faster than others. Less smart person can compensate by working longer and harder as you say though.

How would you categorize myself? We scored the same number on the same IQ test, but as it turns out, you are much more accomplished than I am. In short, IQ only measures potential and is not a direct correlation coefficient.

In terms of what one CAN accomplish, IQ may be a valuable tool to finding that out, however, IQ is not the only variable for success.

My wall of text focused purely of my pondering about effects of IQ. Here are other variables that influence so called 'success': your health - I know a guy who is a lot smarter than I could ever be but he has a disease that keeps him at a wheelchair. He is naturally limited to schools that he can attend because he'd need constant care. Another important characteristic is conscientiousness, how hard you work towards your goal. I lack in this trait to be honest because I tend to half-ass most of the things (do 80% of work in 20%, and then rationalize that to perfect the rest 20%, 80% of the additional time is not good cost-benefit). In addition, you could have grown up in a crappy family who did not support you towards educational goals and did not encourage you. Additionally, depression, mental illness or other physiological conditions such as insomnia can influence you to such a degree that you simply can't function at your full capacity due to lack of energy (this is my case, partially).

In other words, IQ is a the hardware that enables human being to achieve tasks but one also needs to start operating it efficiently to make use of that.

 

[QuickTwist]

My wall of text focused purely of my pondering about effects of IQ. Here are other variables that influence so called 'success': your health - I know a guy who is a lot smarter than I could ever be but he has a disease that keeps him at a wheelchair. He is naturally limited to schools that he can attend because he'd need constant care. Another important characteristic is conscientiousness, how hard you work towards your goal. I lack in this trait to be honest because I tend to half-ass most of the things (do 80% of work in 20%, and then rationalize that to perfect the rest 20%, 80% of the additional time is not good cost-benefit). In addition, you could have grown up in a crappy family who did not support you towards educational goals and did not encourage you. Additionally, depression, mental illness or other physiological conditions such as insomnia can influence you to such a degree that you simply can't function at your full capacity due to lack of energy (this is my case, partially).

In other words, IQ is a the hardware that enables human being to achieve tasks but one also needs to start operating it efficiently to make use of that.

I think we more or less see eye to eye on this.

 

[HDINTP]

Having been an objector to IQ tests for years, mainly due to my ignorance of actual real-world tests available, I found that IQ is one of the best predictors of life success. Knowing this information, wouldn't it make sense to test a school leaver's IQ, then they can make a decision of a profession based on evidenced intelligence. In other words, it makes sense to have reliable data compiled of IQs of various professions and then it makes sense to select fields where you would fall into upper quartile of professionals because you can then thrive in those fields due to being close to the top.

Happiness = Reality / Expectations. If you base your decisions on reality, then you have reasonable expectations that produce happiness. Would it make sense to see that physicists score 115 at the lowest but satisfactory success group is 130 and above? Would a teenager with 105 should still major in physics?

However, it also seems to me that once a person has intelligence to 'get' the subject rather easily, we then call such people talented or gifted in this field, thinking that it is some genetic variation that enables them to be good at something particular. While in reality, if that person excels in physics, he can also excel at computer science because average IQ scores are lower for this subject. However, since physics is more challenging (arguably), that person naturally gravitates towards what is more enjoyable to him. In other words, people probably sort themselves into IQ buckets quite efficiently without testing proposed at the beginning of this wall of test because we enjoy ideas and work where we progress. I think that a person 'infused' with better neural system instead of their own, i.e. with better nerve conductivity, larger grey/white matter areas associated with intelligence, would then find the subject they detest enjoyable because they start to make strides and progress and have relatively manageable effort vs. reward ratio put into the area of study or work.

Though I see where you are coming from I would try to disagree since I believe most people can achieve anything other's can (which is my problem really). On more serious note though I think when you leave high school (Did you mean it like that?) to be tested and figuring out say you have an IQ of 105 but you wanted to major in physics but you won't because you probably would not be in upper quarter so you presume that person would not be happy? But why. I mean that person could be willing to try and do what he/she is interested in without necessary ambition to be up there. And what if he gets better as time goes by? Say you would let him go whereever he/she wants to go and then after they successfully graduate you would test them again. Maybe you would be surprised...?

I am of the opinion that IQ tests managed to ruin many people's self-esteem already plus if I recall correctly they were not supposed to meassure "upper capabilities" originally. It was rather deficits. You would get some probability I guess but still. You know what they managed to come up with in my country few years back? The Idea that students would get tested in 5th grade and by results they would be sorted to groups and have options so they could not go to "elite" schools anymore. I do not know if it passed eventually but it was complete nonsense anyway.

So I do not see how person would be happy in different occupation they did not want to do but would theoretically thrive in? Are most people like this? Maybe that is just my not-understanding of humans in general... ?

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

I did first 30, then my patience run out. I was really frustrated by this test.
Result: 118

 

[Black Rose]

I hen peck when I type on my computer. I use both index fingers but none of the others. I was in a typing class for one year in high school. because I had to use all my fingers I never finished the assignments on time, my fingers hurt and I had so much mental stress I had trouble in my other classes.

I have high scores and I have low scores on my IQ subtests. Like my typing ability some activities as just headaches. I need to hen peck when doing them to not hurt myself. Some people I know can type with all their fingers and do so super fast. This is what I can do on certain subtest of IQ.

I was in the gifted program in school, for you to qualify for gifted programs you must have an IQ of 130. But schools are not allowed to give IQ tests so students must be tested in different ways. I guess I qualified because I did well in many school activities. I realize now that I still had deficits. But my high abilities in other areas helped me do what I needed to to get in.

But even now I sometimes still hurt myself. And I do not know how to be productive because I cannot tell when I need to hen peck and what it is I can do that I am at super high levels. I am so confused by my abilities. I quit school many time because I got stuck. If I knew what I could do well then I would only do that instead of hurt myself. It hurts so bad when a small thing stops me. I remember crying when I made mistakes in arithmetic in 5th grade. I do have highly advanced abilities, I wish I could use them to do fun work and solve problems. I hate the stress of small problems that stop me.

 

[redbaron]

133

barista - i make the smartest coffee

spatial stuff is my weakness when it comes to IQ tests though, i prefer the language watchimacallits

 

[Haim]

You make IQ far more than it is, it is just a test that test(poorly) one tool of the mind.What you want to learn is far more important, your creativity.
Not that every person have the same potential, but IQ can not test it.A mind can be good at certain tasks, for example ant pathfinding, IQ is one number!without even considering time which is other dimension(actually more than one) there are many tasks the brain can be good or bad at, the brain has huge huge amount of dimensions, just that part that let me recognise the letter 't' has far more data than iq's 200ish range, that is like trying to create a 3d model of New York when the only data you have on the city is the number 156774, does not help at all.

There are some simple websites that slow down my mid-high end PC , there was a computer with less computing power than a calculator, that computer took us to the moon, it is what you do with the tools you have.

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

that is like trying to create a 3d model of New York when the only data you have on the city is the number 156774.

I like this analogy.

Other than that, it's quite obvious these tests can be gamed. It's a particular skill that can be improved upon just like everything else.

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

I heard this one trader once say that your only real "business card" is the card you put into the ATM. I think IQ is the same. The only thing that matters is the tangible results your produce with your brain. All this IQ stuff is just fluff, it's jerking off into thin air. It's fun for entertainment sometimes, but ultimately a completely useless thing.

 

[Valentas]

I heard this one trader once say that your only real "business card" is the card you put into the ATM. I think IQ is the same. The only thing that matters is the tangible results your produce with your brain. All this IQ stuff is just fluff, it's jerking off into thin air. It's fun for entertainment sometimes, but ultimately a completely useless thing.

Completely agree. You could be smart, but if you are lazy, unmotivated or just don't care to strive hard for your goals, then you will not produce anything tangible. I merely understand this as a potential you have. Ability to solve difficult problems pays in this world but if you don't work hard to get to the position to do so, then being smart is useless.

 

[QuickTwist]

I did it again for LOL's and got 125.

 

[QuickTwist]

What did you get for 23?

That was one I guessed on. I guessed 3 *shrug*

 

[ZenRaiden]

114
I work at McDOnalds lol
My official IQ is average though so not sure this measures anything like IQ. Its online so I am really skeptical.
I dropped out of college. I studied chemistry. I can learn the same stuff at home while not under stress of upcomming test. I expected college to be different from high school, but its pretty much the same thing. College is business. Buying books that you dont need and basically employing lot of professors that no one needs.

However I am inbetween jobs. I dont want to make a career out of McDOnalds. So I am there just for now until I figure out what better to do. Which I already have and intend to educate my self in that direction and find a job in that way.

 

[k9a4b]

Score on test: 125

Occupation: warehousing and labouring

Gave up around 3/4 through. I was thinking too hard and getting tired

These tests are more a measure of knowledge than logic in my experience. Thinking hard won't get you a high score. What will get you a high score is relaxing and trusting your intuition