Worst kind insults

[Grayman]

It seems as if different types take offense at different things. What offends you? What insults are hurtful what are funny and what is just irritating?


Let me start...

I am supposedly INTP . I rarely take offense because it is hard to be angry at the truth and even harder to be angry at something that doesn't even exist.

Simple insults like "you are stupid!" are irritating because such things are not useful or productive to conversation. I feel that if someone has an issue with me they should explain it so that I can evaluate and consider changes to my perspective or actions. Criticism is good. Oddly, the most irritating thing is not that my intelligence was insulted but that I cannot understand how they came to their conclusion.

One of my shameful habits is that I tend to insult people I really know and are comfortable with my warped sense of humor.
If I think someone cannot handle my criticism I ask a question even if it makes me look ignorant in order to lead them to the goal.

Do any other INTP's experience this? How do you handle your blunt critical nature around more sensitive types?

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

What offends you? What insults are hurtful what are funny and what is just irritating?

How do you handle your blunt critical nature around more sensitive types?

The worst kind of insult is one based on ignorance.

I don't generally hold back...

 

[DelusiveNinja]

You asked for it.

I wouldn't have had an answer for this 4 weeks ago as I've only recently noticed how annoying it is to be complimented compared to being insulted. Most compliments I see as insults because usually compliments are made based off the person's low standards. I don't accept what I do as my best so I don't accept compliments that influence my self esteem, and encourage static behavior, especially, if it's done continuously.

Simple insults like "you are stupid!" are irritating because such things are not useful or productive to conversation.

For me, it is the exact opposite. Lately, there have been students coming to me for help, claiming that I am the smartest in the class. After this is said, I'm not only am curious about what their standards are for intelligence, but I also want to know what things they use as evidence to support this claim.

They say things like, "You sound intelligent. The things you said in Mr. InsertRandomName's class today, really made me think of you as an intellectual. What's your GPA and class rank? I want to be just like you." I think to myself, why? I want to be left alone and now I have people following me like disciples, asking my GPA because of the way I speak. I don't want to be burdened with the task of helping others right now either, especially when stuff is tough.

I'd rather them insult me on my clothing and unkempt shoes, but when I tell them to insult me, they tell me "There's nothing to insult." As if, intelligence (speech, articulation, and GPA in this case) negates all problems I have as a human being and, somehow, makes me perfect. Haha, they are blinded by numbers.

I feel that if someone has an issue with me they should explain it so that I can evaluate and consider changes to my perspective or actions. Criticism is good. Oddly, the most irritating thing is not that my intelligence was insulted but that I cannot understand how they came to their conclusion.

This is exactly why when I argue with my mom I get frustrated. She hates arguing her point and doesn't make an effort to justify her assumptions or conclusions. Ignoring me, she then decides to act passive aggressive towards me, talking about the situation behind my back, silently infecting others with her perception to make me seem like a horrible person. Why not explain your viewpoint to me instead of complaining about it to someone else? That's not a productive way of settling a dispute or disagreement, in my opinion.

I want to meet some kind of common ground or negotiation, but then again is there any negotiating with introverted feeling and introverted thinking (or whatever function I use to challenge her)? If there is, then I am going about this the wrong way and change in my approach style is necessary.

One of my shameful habits is that I tend to insult people I really know and are comfortable with my warped sense of humor.
If I think someone cannot handle my criticism I ask a question even if it makes me look ignorant in order to lead them to the goal.

Do any other INTP's experience this? How do you handle your blunt critical nature around more sensitive types?

No one (save maybe you guys) is comfortable with my awkward sense of humor. I conceal it, for the most part, but it leaks out when I listen in on a conversation. Sometimes, out of nowhere, I'll start covertly laughing at something I thought was funny and will look weird because no one else found it funny.

I ask questions if I have a comment about someone or something that needs to be verified as true or false. I'm often told that I'm "intimidating", and that I need to loosen up.

 

[just george]

The most devastating insults are made when you notice something about someone that is secretly bothering them, and then bring it up in a scathing way. Then they develop a complex that lasts for a few years.

I was really good at that, until I decided not to do it anymore a couple of years ago.

Sometimes, those sound kind, until they figure it out.

 

[Minuend]

Insults are generally not the deciding factor. The motivation and attitude of the person in question is.

I guess part of it is that you are let down with humans in general because they are just that thick. We have this vast source of knowledge and wisdom to explore and we'll still be stuck with individuals who hold back progress of humanity as a whole because they occupy themselves with petty, small things. If the majority was wiser, we'd have a paradigm shift. As we shifted our focus, we might be able to accelerate the development of medicine and technology. It would benefit all humans.

We could have a vast different society that benefited us on a completely different premise than what we have today. Knowledge, technology, exploration of own abilities. But we can't because people preoccupy themselves with the horror, gasp, of this girl in america that wants to be topless. Come on, they are boobs, not holocausts.

Tangent /nevermind.

Edit. Oh, it's in the type section. As for type, the ones with most knowledge on the topic once estimated my type to be ENFP.

 

[doncarlzone]

Let me start...

I am supposedly INTP . I rarely take offense because it is hard to be angry at the truth and even harder to be angry at something that doesn't even exist.

I actually think that INTPs can be quite sensitive and this forum is evidence of that. On this forum INTPs frequently get a taste of their own medicine and it can get quite heated sometimes. Nit picking is usually the root cause ^^

Perhaps the difference being that they are not as sensitive in areas where most people are.

One of my shameful habits is that I tend to insult people I really know and are comfortable with my warped sense of humor.
If I think someone cannot handle my criticism I ask a question even if it makes me look ignorant in order to lead them to the goal.

Do any other INTP's experience this? How do you handle your blunt critical nature around more sensitive types?

I can see myself in that. One of the main issues I have is that I think people will understand things just by telling them. Most psychologists know exactly where their clients go wrong pretty early on, but they obviously don't just tell them straight away. Sometimes the only thing you achieve by telling people the harsh truth is to make them hate you.

 

[NormannTheDoorman]

People stating the obvious to me.

 

[Grayman]

I want to meet some kind of common ground or negotiation, but then again is there any negotiating with introverted feeling and introverted thinking (or whatever function I use to challenge her)? If there is, then I am going about this the wrong way and change in my approach style is necessary.

Feelers need validation before you can use logic. You have to learn to VERBALLY accept their feelings even if they don't make sense to you. When they understand that you care about their values, even if you disagree with them, you can reason out the situation and they are ready to listen. They will NOT listen to you until then and if you continue to not validate their feelings they will look elsewhere for validation. The more mature feelers need less validation due to higher levels of confidence.

 

[BigApplePi]

Off hand, any negative feeling from a feeling person because I don't know how to handle them.

 

[Grayman]

I actually think that INTPs can be quite sensitive and this forum is evidence of that. On this forum INTPs frequently get a taste of their own medicine and it can get quite heated sometimes. Nit picking is usually the root cause ^^

Perhaps the difference being that they are not as sensitive in areas where most people are.

I think INTP's perspective is a large factor. At least for me, I can see many possibilities to a persons intentions. The other is what you said. I view it as having less attachments or having a small list of subjective values.

 

[Grayman]

People stating the obvious to me.

Obviously, people! What else would it be?

On a more serious note, why? Is it situational? How do you account for things you think are obvious but not obvious to others?

 

[Trebuchet]

I find it hard to forgive someone who calls me unprofessional, or calls my integrity into question. If it is to my face, I can handle it, but not behind my back. A very senior employee once tried to torpedo me by complaining to my boss (falsely) that I was "conspiring against her" and I had to apologize. I still haven't forgiven her.

I also don't like being treated rudely. I volunteered to help out a class that didn't have any other parent volunteers, for an expensive, volunteer-supported program the school has. When I showed up at the scheduled time, the teacher - who had forgotten about it - acted like she was doing me a favor by allowing me this privilege, failed to provide any support to my role, and when I was done, instead of saying "thank you" like the other teachers, or at least "goodbye," she pretended I wasn't in the room. I had done a substantial amount of preparation and then work for her. See if I ever help her again.

 

[NormannTheDoorman]

Obviously, people! What else would it be?

On a more serious note, why? Is it situational? How do you account for things you think are obvious but not obvious to others?

When I am performing a task in a non-orthodox manner.

 

[Lot]

I hate being called creepy. I'm weird, but I'm not creepy. Creepy assumes malicious intent. When I'm weird or awkward, I don't mean harm. It's something that has always hurt my feeling. Especially if a woman says it. Feels bad man.

Of course there is context when being called creepy is funny. Even then it still take me a second to get over it. One of the leading causes of my previous depression.

 

[Grayman]

I hate being called creepy. I'm weird, but I'm not creepy. Creepy assumes malicious intent. When I'm weird or awkward, I don't mean harm. It's something that has always hurt my feeling. Especially if a woman says it. Feels bad man.

Of course there is context when being called creepy is funny. Even then it still take me a second to get over it. One of the leading causes of my previous depression.

I can see that. My wife calls me creepy when I have a mustache growing. Says I look like a rapist. Not sure what a rapist is supposed to look like but that's the feeling she has created for herself of what a rapist looks like.

 

[BigApplePi]

Here is a quick answer. The insults that bother me and can floor me are those that hit me right in the vanity. They let me know I am full of some kind of hot air I didn't know about. They can be bad in the present because I'm knocked out of whatever I was on about. They can be good if I learn something and return (sooner or later) stronger.

Not sure but doesn't the Bible say pride is the worst of the seven deadly sins?

 

[Mia]

Jabs at my insecurities and being felt sorry for. In the second instance, people feel like they're doing me a favour or showing kindness... Tbh, I think it's twisted. I hate people trying to sympathise with mewhen they obviously don't understand, it's offensive to have my experiences compared.

 

[Grayman]

Jabs at my insecurities and being felt sorry for. In the second instance, people feel like they're doing me a favour or showing kindness... Tbh, I think it's twisted. I hate people trying to sympathise with mewhen they obviously don't understand, it's offensive to have my experiences compared.

It seems this sentiment is common in INTP. I don't find it insulting anymore but I can remember what it was like.

 

[chi-moon]

It seems as if different types take offense at different things. What offends you? What insults are hurtful what are funny and what is just irritating?


Let me start...

I am supposedly INTP . I rarely take offense because it is hard to be angry at the truth and even harder to be angry at something that doesn't even exist.

Simple insults like "you are stupid!" are irritating because such things are not useful or productive to conversation. I feel that if someone has an issue with me they should explain it so that I can evaluate and consider changes to my perspective or actions. Criticism is good. Oddly, the most irritating thing is not that my intelligence was insulted but that I cannot understand how they came to their conclusion.

One of my shameful habits is that I tend to insult people I really know and are comfortable with my warped sense of humor.
If I think someone cannot handle my criticism I ask a question even if it makes me look ignorant in order to lead them to the goal.

Do any other INTP's experience this? How do you handle your blunt critical nature around more sensitive types?

Same with me. I really take offense when someone accused me of doing something illogical and unreasonable things without giving myself any chance to explain.

I don't really hesitate much when it comes to blunt critics to my friends. Although they are F-type people, they always value my critics and even try to get my opinion on many things.

 

[Cherry Cola]

The ones which you can tell are custom crafted with the intention to cause maximum hurt from their content and the manner in which they are delivered (calculated rather than upset). In turn the worst and also best (my Ni is dominant so stfu) of these are the ones that show you novel ways in which you fundamentally suck on the spot, ways you hadn't thought of yourself already.

 

[Polaris]

"I love you"