World Council for Gifted and Talented Children

[Black Rose]

https://youtu.be/6vxskJWNOco

 

[Black Rose]

I reversed the equation I found on Wikipedia to find my mental age.
I used my (g) score rather than Full Scale IQ

(mental age ÷ Physical age) × 100 = IQ
mental age = physical age × (IQ ÷ 100)

my mental age is 36.4
I am 28 physicaly

 

[Tannhauser]

I can only feel sorry for the kids who have their future "predicted" by these close-to-senile IQ-cult idiots.

 

[Urakro]

I reversed the equation I found on Wikipedia to find my mental age.
I used my (g) score rather than Full Scale IQ

(mental age ÷ Physical age) × 100 = IQ
mental age = physical age × (IQ ÷ 100)

my mental age is 36.4
I am 28 physicaly

Putting my parameters in, the answer concluded that I'm just about the right age of going senile.

EDIT: !? How did tannhauser ninja my senile term???

 

[Black Rose]

I can only feel sorry for the kids who have their future "predicted" by these close-to-senile IQ-cult idiots.

(g) is more important than Full Scale.

The video does talk about kids not being assessed properly.

 

[Tannhauser]

(g) is more important than Full Scale.

The video does talk about kids not being assessed properly.

So they replace IQ with this Holy "g". What a great win.

I have much better system: take the IQ score, and subtract the level of your confidence in measuring intelligence with numerical values.

Most Mensa members would end up well within the "mildly retarded" category.

 

[Black Rose]

So they replace IQ with this Holy "g". What a great win.

I have much better system: take the IQ score, and subtract the level of your confidence in measuring intelligence with numerical values.

Most Mensa members would end up well within the "mildly retarded" category.

It seems you would show those same emotional qualities as them.

That is what you do when you have insecurities and a mocking nature.

 

[Black Rose]

Putting my parameters in, the answer concluded that I'm just about the right age of going senile.

EDIT: !? How did tannhauser ninja my senile term???

is your (g) bellow 100?

You seem too be above your age physical to me.

Even if you are exactly at your age level.

edit: i get the joke now, you think you are as wise as a person who is 100

edit: is it a joke?

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

more damage than good is done through making councils for "gifted" children imo
for starters i think it would put pressure on the kids to maintain a facade of intelligence/prominence that is damaging in the long run

edit: btw...whats a g score?

 

[Tannhauser]

It seems you would show those same emotional qualities as them.

That is what you do when you have insecurities and a mocking nature.

Mensa members don't know how to mock. That can be shown by how they mocked themselves by calling their club "Mensa" ("mens" means "mind" in Latin, "mensa" means "table").

If I would have insecurities, I would have founded a club where we could stroke each other's egos for our "intelligence".

 

[Black Rose]

more damage than good is done through making councils for "gifted" children imo
for starters i think it would put pressure on the kids to maintain a facade of intelligence/prominence that is damaging in the long run

But that is not what it is for. I would cry allot because I thought I was not smart. I did not know if I was dumb or not. Facades are just for people who already know they don't have those problems and just want to wade it over everyone. It really is whether you become a balanced person or not. Unbalanced gifted children have problems just like everyone else.

edit: btw...whats a g score?

creativity

tests scores by themselves don't measure that too well that is why the woman in the video says you need to understand what the scores mean and to help the child express themselves.

 

[Black Rose]

Mensa members don't know how to mock. That can be shown by how they mocked themselves by calling their club "Mensa" ("mens" means "mind" in Latin, "mensa" means "table").

Does that make you better than them?

 

[Jennywocky]

...I always thought it was amusing how close "mensa" is to "menses."

* * * * *

I was friends at one point with two older people who met at Mensa long enough to date and marry. They said it was nice as an activity group -- they had a subgroup of friends from there who they would do regular things with (for example, taking dance classes) -- but not really a place they went to for serious discussions on the whole.

Just thought it was interesting.

 

[Tannhauser]

Does that make you better than them?

At least different, I hope.

 

[Yellow]

Oh my goodness, I had blocked out that part of my life. Well, it was called TAG (talented and gifted), then changed to GAT (gifted and talented). There was also OM (Odyssey of the Mind) and Young Mensans.

Those programs are for the parents. I mean, they are designed to give parents bragging rights over other parents.

 

[Pyropyro]

I prefer to enroll my future children at Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters TYVM.

 

[Urakro]

is your (g) bellow 100?

You seem too be above your age physical to me.

Even if you are exactly at your age level.

edit: i get the joke now, you think you are as wise as a person who is 100

edit: is it a joke?

It was a joke, but I was targeting it at this notion of IQ in the first place. According to the score, I'm considered way above my actual age, but honestly if I take a good objective look, I think I'm just average intelligence. I'm not any better or lower than the rest of people in college level education.

As for typical people go, I think our brain's are just as capable and efficient as anyone else's. But people use their brains for different things. If you ask your brain "Brain, make it seem like I'm stupid", you're brain will do an incredible job of convincing you of this. "Brain, make me loud and boisterous", and voila, the brain sifts, filters, errs and learns until it's optimized.

Rambling on, the brain doesn't respond to commands, but to beliefs. So I'm saying that people with working brains are intelligent, but they allocate the brain's tasks with different things, not necessarily math, logic and critical thinking.

 

[Alias]

I think Hogwarts is a better idea for children.

 

[Pyropyro]

I think Hogwarts is a better idea for children.

Ravenclaw or bust!

 

[DrSketchpad]

I was in what they called GT at my school through elementary school (didn't care about the last "test" when I hear the higher grade's gifted classes weren't as interesting) and it was a nice experience. I'm not sure if it was helpful for me overall though. My GT teacher made sure that no one thought it was for "smarter" kids, but for people who were just bored with the regular classes and did well in them. Even though my GT teacher tried to keep that public image, everyone *did* still think the class was a sign of some cognitive superiority. Me noticing this categorization, I think, caused me to put less effort into actually working with and toward better problem solving skills because "I'm smart. I can use that to carry me through everything, right?"

So now, after trying to define intelligence, I only think that it's something that shouldn't be my metric of self worth. This is mostly because, even more than a great deal of word-concept associations out there, what "intelligence" actually *is* is a very fuzzy idea. The clearest definition I have for it based on what I think other people associate it with and are trying to convey with it is this:

"The ability to understand things/concepts/whatever." Though understanding is a very subjective thing, so I'm not sure on anything anymore. Good night.


PS: Do I get some medal for giving my mandatory definition of intelligence?

PPS: As a side side note, in GT, one year we learned about philosophy and their philosophers. After learning on this later, I realize that (surprise) I didn't understand squat from it. I think it gave me some unconscious framework of understanding to learn it later though, maybe. Seriously, we were being thought Platos' forms in like 3rd grade or whatever.