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Why do you like science?

Agent Intellect

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Before watching video: Science challenges my brain and allows me to understand the world. Certain aspects of it mystify me and totally engage my mind. Others just make sense of the world and are incredibly comforting. It keeps me interested in life. Quest for knowledge = ultimate reason for existence.

After watching video: Yeah, basically that. Gives me even more to think about...
 
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*wipes away tear*
*adds to youtube favorites*

Couldn't have said it better.

On a personal level, it's where you find social permission to think and converse logically.
 

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It's interesting. Simple as that. And the ideas are most mind boggling. Special and General Relativity with their "crazy" view of time, space and light. Quantum Mechanics and Standard theory, allowing us to peek into the world of tiny particles which behave in a very non-intuitive way. The list can go on and on, but the bottom line: science is just extremely bloody interesting :)
 

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That was inspiring...

I can't remember ever having the "let's explore" mindset as a kid, not focused externally at least. I lived in a world full of stories and daydreams, so I wasn't the most 'hard science' oriented kid.

I guess you could say I was 'inhabited' by many words. I never wondered about the speed of dark myself because Neruda did it for me, along with the hardness of silence. I had the vague notion that the answers to that kind of question had to be felt, not thought.

I made many more questions about what I saw inside (dreams, perceptions) than about the outside world. In spite of that dreamlike orientation I always wanted my facts clear and my reasonings sound, and that's why I like science.

To me science is the model that points the way, but not the way itself. It's a training ground. The best way to hone your mind and the best way to stay truthful. It's the only way in which you can reconnect with the dreamlike states without losing yourself to lunacy. This is why I cannot respect a philosopher, a theologist or an artist who doesn't respect science.

The sciences that reached me in a way I could understand when I was a kid; that is, the sciences that reached me through the narrative of the scientists themselves, have stayed with me. I read the accounts of space flights by the Russian cosmonauts, and about seed migrations, and about the beginnings of microbiology. I still love biology and astronomy. I still can make sense of a mid level book in those fields. But I'm not a 'scientist'.

Yet I am, among other things, a social scientist in training. And I regret to say that the "mad" in my title doesn't always refer to a wish to throw a bunch of people with a piece of string into a Gesell chamber and see what happens.

I'm mad because social sciences are easy to rebuke. Because we have let them become cant. Because people won't work the hard way from theory to practice, back and again and establish decent models, and instead prefer to adopt fashionable ideologies.

Ultimately I love science because I wish we could, somehow, take the best of hard science -the systematicity-, and the best of social science -the adaptability-, and the best of art -the quest for the spirit-, and turn them into a huge, inmense way of loving and living the world.
 

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I've always been good at thinking of things on a very holistic model, thinking of all the interconnections of constituent parts, all the moving pieces working together to make a greater whole, but everyday experience is such a reduced view of existence.

To me, science has allowed me a much broader view - a point of view from above my own subjective experience. If existence is like an orchestra, then I'm just a cello player, only able to experience the grandeur of the orchestra from the point of view of a cello player. Science is what allows me to listen to the entire orchestra by showing me the entire thing.

I'll never experience a black hole (the pianist) with a spectrum of deep, looming menace, or the quick, high energy violence of a stars destruction. Nor will I be able to hear the slow, subtlety of evolution on a geological scale (the violinist) as each note is played with delicate care and a never ceasing, unrelenting motion that hovers between incoherence and stagnation. I'll never witness relativity (the french horns) on any meaningful scale, perceiving the universe from every octave and every note.

The universe operates on an elegant mathematical organization (the musical notes). I forget who said it (and I paraphrase) but the strangest thing about the universe is that we can understand it - at least on some level. Science is what allows me to walk away from experiencing the orchestra and sit in the audience, really taking it all in, experiencing how every note fits into place to create the grand whole - the Truth - that emerges from every subtle nuance, both known and unknown to us. Every piece has it's part to play, and each one is just as important as any other - the entire orchestra would crumble into chaos if each note was not played with pinpoint accuracy.

The only thing that excites me more then knowing what we know about the grand orchestra of the cosmos is the notion that it's being played on levels that we haven't even conceived of yet. Science, discovery, exploration, and understanding have time and again shown us that the universe operates on an echelon so much higher then our pitiful attempts to explain it - via religion, philosophy, superstition - and every time we think we grasp something, further exploration throws another wrench in the gears. Science has shown us that reality is even stranger then our myths, legends, and imaginations could ever possibly hope to be.

Because of gaining an understanding of science, just simply walking down the street has been enriched beyond expectations. I can just picture the air molecules vibrating away from my feet as they hit the pavement. These waves of energy reach my ears, and a grand symphony of reaction potentials, synaptic firings, and ion channels can interpret these fine vibrations into something meaningful to me.

I look up at the sky and picture the intense sunlight hitting the oxygen molecules in the ozone, the blue and indigo wavelengths being scattered in every direction, creating the blue dome of a sky, and the illusion of a yellow sun.

I can think about some other part of the universe five billion light years away, and know that it exists under the same physical laws, and that if some being there looked in our direction, they wouldn't even see our planet yet. I can think about the fact that when I move relative to that planet, nothing is happening simultaneously with me - my slow gait, at such a distance, is creating a time difference on the order of hundreds of years compared to when I stand still (I'm moving through that planets past and future with a simple change of direction).

I can look around at the trees and animals and bugs and understand the delicate balance of their existence. Each one of them is catalyzing billions of DNA transcriptions and translations, billions of chemical reactions (esterification, hydrolysis, photosynthesis, transesterification, protein folding etc). Each gene expresses itself in one individual way that by itself is almost meaningless, but as a whole a living, breathing, thinking organism emerges, which fits it's own niche in an ecosystem that's constantly shifting and differentiating alleles in a ruthless, unrelenting, yet elegant process of natural selection. We get but just one infinitesimally small sample of this entire process, yet with a scientific understanding I can see it happening before my very eyes.

Personally, I don't know how anybody could not be interested in science, or why anyone would want to deny themselves of the universes magnificence by mainting a narrow point of view or ignorance of such a colossal masterpiece of intricately woven, masterfully dynamic, and strangely understandable (in some cases) natural splendor. Science has, in my opinion, revealed the intrinsic exquisiteness of the universe that ideological ignorance and superstition had once (and still often does) covered up like a Burqa over a beautiful woman.

Anyway, I'm done rambling (as if anyone read it after seeing how long it was).
 

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Anyway, I'm done rambling (as if anyone read it after seeing how long it was).

No no, it's pretty, carry on.

(This kind of speech would greatly benefit non-science oriented people)
 

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I've been thinking about this for a few minutes, and I've decided I don't like science itself, I like the aims and the means of science, i.e. the aims of explaining or improving the world, and the systems and processes used to reach those aims.
 

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I read it all and thought that it was masterfully said, AI.

Science is a new frontier for me and I mourn the years I've spent utterly ignoring it. Growing up in an American evangelical Christian environment conditioned me to always trust God over anything a scientist might say. If God and the scientist agree, hooray for science, but if they disagree, it is the scientist who is wrong, never God (as if I understood the wrong's and rights of what God said in the first place). This makes science subjective to theology and "divine revelation", which is an absolute absurdity when you really think about it.

Now I'm playing catch up, trying to grasp the many difficult concepts presented by physics, biology, etc. I usually feel inept when it comes to science (that's why I don't get involved in the discussions much), but I have had a tremendous appetite for it over the last year and spend a great deal of time reading about it.

Honestly, I don't see how anyone can say there is no mystery left to be discovered. Mysteries are all around us. There is a thrill in not knowing ......... yet.
 

Cassandra

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That video is inspiring.

I feel very thankful that my parents never limited what I could have a question about, even if it made no sense, they would try to answer or help me find an answer. We did experiments to see if objects could fall up. We did experiments to see if a plant really needed air, or if they could last longer than insects under a cup with limited air. We did experiments to see if dense liquids lost heat slower. It is why I love science. When I was in 9th grade, I still asked questions that my sister told me not to ask (she said it would make me seem stupid). I asked how water went up a tree, and for the first time learned about xylems and phloems.

"It is important that students bring a certain ragamuffin, barefoot irreverence to their studies; they are not here to worship what is known, but to question it." ~ J. Bronowski

Agent Intellect-- what you wrote is worth being put on a golden plaque in every school and lab in every country.
 

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Although science only have Instrumentalist value to me, it is fascinating nontheless because of the logical structure and the use of creativity in induction.
 

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Short answer:
Because we'd still be sitting on trees.
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Long Answer:
"Physics is the study of the world, while mathematics is the study of all possible worlds."
I like the thought of knowing what's possible and what not.

(Ok, this answer isn't much longer, but 'deeper' IMHO)
 

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I love science because it lets me explore the world and actually understand some of it. I want to understand how everything works. How could I do that without science?

Also, AI, that was a beautiful explanation.
 
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