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Why do teens use sex to further advance themselves in a social structure?

NormannTheDoorman

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The whole idea of sex seems trivial and mundane to me.


I have a friend who is raised in a Christian home, and unsurprisingly, his parents are against the idea of sex before marriage. He said this to me once.

"People keep saying staying a virgin before marriage is a challenge. I think not getting a girl pregnant and having sex is a greater challenge than being a virgin."

or something along those lines but what the fuck....


A condom is all that is needed to prevent pregnancy.


Giving into your primal desires seem far from challenging.


Not sure if what I am about to write qualifies as an act of social engineering but here I go.


1.) Tamper with a shipment of condoms to a certain state or country.
-holes large enough for semen to pass through but not noticable

2.) Teen pregnancy goes up and pregnancy in general
 

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If I remember correctly it went something like this when I was in highschool.

If you were a guy the more sex you had, especially if it was with a "popular girl", the more popular it made you, and the more popular you were the more respected you were. The more popular you were the less likely you were to be an "outcast" or "uncool", and being an "outcast" or "uncool" in highschool is a really stressful thing to have to deal with.

If you were a girl in highschool and people found out you engaged in sex with the popular guys it also made you popular but it also put a label of "whore" on you and you were prone to ridicule for the rest of your highschool days.

The school system in the America today is totally fucked, kids are worried about everything except what they are actually supposed to be there for.
 

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The school system in the America today is totally fucked, kids are worried about everything except what they are actually supposed to be there for.


Basically it's a public forum to them where they can find their "friends".
 

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Basically it's a public forum to them where they can find their "friends".

Yep, and the obnoxious extroverts tend to make it a living hell for the ones who actually want to learn.
 

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It would be great if they divided the classes to cater to each personality type. Everybody has a different learning style and they have this shitty "one size fits all" system.
 

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I think it's just how society wants them to behave, a sort of controllable rebellion. Basically, having sex is a relatively easy means of acquiring your "Adult" badge. Why bother with being a productive and responsible individual when you can show off your virility instead? Besides, major corporations can earn more profit from teens desperate to prove themselves than those studying/working to improve themselves.

Bedding someone is really easy once you know which behaviors to manipulate or who to pay. Being on a relationship with someone, well that's a bit harder.

I really suggest not doing that. After visiting an orphanage, I really don't want to see more abandoned children just because their immature parents gave in into a fit of passion.
 

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I think it's just how society wants them to behave, a sort of controllable rebellion. Basically, having sex is a relatively easy means of acquiring your "Adult" badge. Why bother with being a productive and responsible individual when you can show off your virility instead? Besides, major corporations can earn more profit from teens desperate to prove themselves than those studying/working to improve themselves.

Bedding someone is really easy once you know which behaviors to manipulate or who to pay. Being on a relationship with someone, well that's a bit harder.

I really suggest not doing that. After visiting an orphanage, I really don't want to see more abandoned children just because their immature parents gave in into a fit of passion.

Have you ever seen that show teen mom on mtv? its horrible, these girls are in such a hurry to fuck their lives up bc they think its cool to grow up fast in the most irresponsible ways they can think of.
 

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Have you ever seen that show teen mom on mtv? its horrible, these girls are in such a hurry to fuck their lives up bc they think its cool to grow up fast in the most irresponsible ways they can think of.

I've read the synopsis at Wikipedia and let's just say that I become much happier with my decision to remain the crazy/cool Uncle to my niece and nephew for a longer time.
 

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I've read the synopsis at Wikipedia and let's just say that I become much happier with my decision to remain the crazy/cool Uncle to my niece and nephew for a longer time.

I had my child when I was fairly young, about 20. But some of these girls... like 15 and shit, smh.
 

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I had my child when I was fairly young, about 20. But some of these girls... like 15 and shit, smh.

It's okay to have children in your 20s since you're a bit more mature by then but 15? They have barely left their childhood that time.
 

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On that topic, should vasectomy be standard procedure (like vaccines kind of standard) around the age where puberty starts?

Even in cases where it's irreversible, extraction of semen and artificial insemination is easy in countries that are somewhat economically advanced.

Further, would it be at an expense or at economic gain for a society to do this? Would it result in a massive future drop in the % of society that are productive in the future?

Apologies if this is annoyingly tangential.
 

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On that topic, should vasectomy be standard procedure (like vaccines kind of standard) around the age where puberty starts?

Even in cases where it's irreversible, extraction of semen and artificial insemination is easy in countries that are somewhat economically advanced.

Further, would it be at an expense or at economic gain for a society to do this? Would it result in a massive future drop in the % of society that are productive in the future?

Apologies if this is annoyingly tangential.

Tempting but as much as I'm annoyed by such behavior, I don't think restricting the younger generation would be a good idea. It would simply weaken their resolve to grow and learn the hard way. Our job is to guide them and make them strong enough to face the world, not lock their potentials out of fear then hiding under the facade of economy and productivity.

And what of the fertile females? Locked as cattle for the enjoyment and breeding programs of the older generation? Either way, I think both sexes would suffer from such system.

If you think AI is easy then I suggest milking a boar. Fun stuff. :D
 

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Tempting but as much as I'm annoyed by such behavior, I don't think restricting the younger generation would be a good idea. It would simply weaken their resolve to grow and learn the hard way. Our job is to guide them and make them strong enough to face the world, not lock their potentials out of fear then hiding under the facade of economy and productivity.

We would do them an educational disservice because much less can be learned "the hard way" than the easy way.



And what of the fertile females? Locked as cattle for the enjoyment and breeding programs of the older generation? Either way, I think both sexes would suffer from such system.

If to be someone who bears children is to be "cattle," then mandatory vasectomies would not harm women because by the above definition they already are "cattle"; the vasectomies would only change how semen is transferred.

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We would do them an educational disservice because much less can be learned "the hard way" than the easy way.

And who are we to judge that our easy way is the better way? I can't speak for the females but this "easy way" (via helicopter parents) has made a lot of emasculated "kidults" already (or Nice guys if you prefer) in our generation. Should we add more? Might as well kill the human spirit of innovation and adventure while we're at it.

If to be someone who bears children is to be "cattle," then mandatory vasectomies would not harm women because by the above definition they already are "cattle"; the vasectomies would only change how semen is transferred.

Nope you don't get it. By castrating the young males, you make the females as cattle. It's just like how forced prostitution reduces both the entertainers and their clients to something less than human. Anyways, my point here is that the older generation shouldn't fear the young as if they're animals that are out to get them.
 

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The whole idea of sex seems trivial and mundane to me.
So is eating food, breathing, or riding a bicycle.
A condom is all that is needed to prevent pregnancy.
What if condom will break? Or have very small hole? What if somebody don't like sex with condom and use other methods? What if a girl you are sexing, will make hole in condom, to force you into marriage? What if a girl you are sexing, will be impregnated by other man and she will say it's yours?
Giving into your primal desires seem far from challenging.
Even bacterias eat. Why are you so low level? You act like a fish or bacteria, you eat. You are so primitive. Oh wait, human eating is much more complicated and on higher level than bacterias? So is human sex.
What is so bad about sex need? Why eating food or riding bicycle is not bad?
Also sex != going drunk to random clubs and fucking random drunk whores in toilet. You can find quality girl and have some more romantic sex.
 

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why sex is prestigous should be pretty obvious no? it is so even for adults generally speaking

when it comes to hormone overloaded teens ofc shit gon hit the fan; look at culture, much of its about youth and much of its about sex

this started with jazz and then elvis and then it went headin to were we are now

not saying its bad or anything but it has drawbacks, sex is more fucked up in america than sweden though, that weird combo of prudity and scaredy cat'ing round nudity and humans being sexual beings in themselves all the time not just when they fuck combined with whats in yo movies n shit.. its weird and it makes things difficulty for adolescents im sure
 

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Sex is cool. Thus, having sex is a cool thing to do.

Also, it's good fun.

Note; I do not advocate sexy young people having sexy fun, I merely acknowledge that it's cool and sexy and fun.
 

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^It's one of those things that wont ever change, too heavily anchored in our biological origin primal like few things else, and also connected to alpha status. And when you start thinking about how we express our sexuality constantly and not just when fucking it's even more obvious, that goes for women too, sure they don't want to fuck like men but apart from that their sexuality is one the same level, it's just more sophisticated and subtle (though not so subtle when it comes to a considerable percentage of young girls). It being different than male sexuality doesn't mean it isn't sexuality, far too often -in fact almost always- sexuality is described only in male terms; an unfair monopoly on what sex entails is nearly universally prevalent; thereby, allowing brusque, physiol to run rampart disguised as vitality and individualism to permeate popular culture; it hinders understanding of both male and female sexuality (which are by no means completely distinct, but different to a considerable enough degree). The common man is indeed quite oblivious of female sexuality owing to the aforementioned monopoly.

Boys need to be taught about how stupid a lot of them become when they hit sexuality, how so much of their idiot behavior as testosterone laden, hormone pumped teenagers is really quite disruptive. Cause currently its quite a big issue in school. If the teacher is unable to radiate enough self confidence, displaying authority then no student will cause a ruckus in his classes because there's no loss of prestige in letting someone powerful enough not to be challenged have control. If the teacher can't do that however, then you get ruckus, loud boys striving to establish a decent rank in the hierarchy of their class and in their school; thereby, ruining lessons dragging everyone else down. I doubt they are conscious of it, it's something instinctual. If they were provided with an understanding of how they function post puberty I think they would be much better at coping with it, such behavior would also be less prestigious if it transparent and easily spotted.

Also, we must not forget that history is full of attempts to control sex, be it by means of religion, or an unwillingness to see it for what it is. The same thing goes for love. There is nothing that can invoke disgust like that which has to do with sex. A picture of two men having sex will make most males uncomfortable, including a lot of those who aren't in the least bit homophobic. This must be understood before we can fully accept the diversity of sex. When you know that the disgust you feel is an irrational knee-jerk reaction you have all the more reason to deal with it instead of adding to the stigmas that cause so much suffering to those who deviate from the norm; those who don't deviate are hurt as well, false expectations lead to failed relationships, unrealistic expectation pressure causes anxiety as ones ability to live up to the presumed perfomative requirements is shrouded in doubt.

Part of what I wrote sounds really conservative, but it is not. People should fuck as much as they want, they should just understand what it entails. And no culture should blanket its nature, archaic origin as if though it were forlorn: transcended, turned remnant following civilization with all its formality and rationality granted ontological primacy. Bygone days are seen like fairy tales. Ignored is the fact that the same humans which populate the earth today as thousands of year ago. We should look to them and study them like we did chimps. Just look at those examples of people who were lost and grew up in the wilderness alone, they make it quite obvious what animals we really are.
 

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Because teens are human.

All humans that aren't inhibited by social conventions use sex as a form of social currency.
 

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Anyway, speaking of teens and sex.
Do you know where to find some teens? Would like to meet some sexy teens.
 
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