Who would you hire first?

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http://andrewferguson.net/2007/01/26/who-would-you-hire-first/

 

[A22]

lol nice

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Well, now I have hope for my future.

 

[ObliviousGenius]

heh, ditto to that cheese. I always think about how my laziness would get in the way of my future but then I think how many other people are just like me and how "efficient" I am I think there's hope for me yet. Not only that it gives me a good argument for laziness lol.

 

[Nawyrus]

I work as the cited lazy genius. Always innovating with the main motivation being to do less effort.

 

[EditorOne]

Civil War army Lt. Gen. Ulysses Grant looked for the same qualities in a regimental adjutant. He said he wanted an intelligent, lazy man. Such a man, he said, would be smart enough to know all the hundreds of things necessary to get a regiment ready to fight and do all the things it had to do. And because he was lazy, he would see to it that good, industrious people were set to work doing those things, rather than trying to do it all himself, which Grant saw as a path to failure all by itself, let alone if the adjutant became incapacitated.
The Grant insight, unfortunately, is rare among employers. If you are lucky enough to work for someone who "gets it" like Grant got it, you'll have a wonderful time. Most employers, however, are uneasy unless your head is bent over a list of figures, unless you are shouting commands into chaos, unless you are visibly working your ass off. They may say "work smarter, not harder," but they only say that because it's the flavor of the week. It didn't really "take" deep in their ES little minds.
Such employers, having already demonstrated that their priorities are inimicable to the success of their ventures, are best avoided. Unfortunately that's hard to do. You'll last three years at such a job before the intensity of your contempt radiates past your containment vessel of smiles and small talk.

 

[Nawyrus]

Most employers, however, are uneasy unless your head is bent over a list of figures, unless you are shouting commands into chaos, unless you are visibly working your ass off. They may say "work smarter, not harder," but they only say that because it's the flavor of the week. It didn't really "take" deep in their ES little minds.
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In my experience, ESs tend to have an urge to show off whatever they do in work, so all that matters is people seeing it as good, not the quality of the job itself. This in my view, may be a strong problem in competence, but industry is full of this facade, anyway. In a few words, these people work to show work.

I'm the exact opposite, I'm only preoccupied about doing my responsibility in the most competent way. But in result of prefering to work alone and quietly, even when doing a lot, I felt my really innovative good work was never recognized. However, it seemed certain industrious sensors were praised, even when constantly banging their heads against the wall.

 

[Words]

eh...Bullshit. If "industry" or the "method of work" depended on the quality of being a "genius", then the genius, lazy or not, would only consider doing "ingenious"(i.e. Efficient) methods/industry. Efficiency and Multi-tasking are out of the story.

Also, The idea of "lazy" is senseless, meaningless and refers to nothing. 'lazy' is primarily a social construction that's imposed too often. The willingness of a person entirely depends on the person's motivations. Anyone, absolutely anyone, would do any work if they cared enough for that activity/work.

 

[pjoa09]

I'd hire my friends and family first. Yeah, its all in for loyalty.
Everyone does that.

The possibility of being Industriously Lazy?
Work so damn hard just so that the next time you do it would be a whole lot easier to just realise the whole system changed?
That is industrious,lazy, and at times, idiotic.

A lazy genius could put all his efforts on fucking up the company to steal money so he could live his lazy life.


Now we can throw a couple of quotes to screw up the definition of genius and idiot.

Besides an industrious genius could understand the value of time and end up pursuing similar things with more vigour.

How idiot is idiot? If you knew he was an idiot why did you make him CFO? I mean like fuck, you can make him salute everyone and that would still be better than the lazy idiot.

But in short too many factors are to be considered with their extents before we can come to a conclusion.

 

[EditorOne]

"The idea of "lazy" is senseless, meaningless and refers to nothing. 'lazy' is primarily a social construction that's imposed too often."

Oh, good. My Celtic ancestors who came to America were regarded as lazy because they preferred to let their pigs loose in the woods to grow, then herd them to market once a year, spending most of their time singing, dancing, drinking, fighting and fornicating. I don't see that as lazy. I see it as having your priorities right. :-) I'm considering an oddly similar line of work, although it doesn't involve pigs. More later for everyone if it works out. I know INTPs and work as it's constructed in 2011 often are a bad fit.

 

[Dapper Dan]

Also, The idea of "lazy" is senseless, meaningless and refers to nothing. 'lazy' is primarily a social construction that's imposed too often. The willingness of a person entirely depends on the person's motivations. Anyone, absolutely anyone, would do any work if they cared enough for that activity/work.

I actually see this as being part of the point. If the work needs to be done, and the motivation is there, then it will get done, lazy or not. And if the work's getting done anyway, what's the point of hiring a workaholic? Why not hire someone who's naturally inclined to improve the process itself?

The reason is that working hard usually looks better than working smart. If someone's running around busy all day, surely they're getting more done, right? RIGHT?

Well... maybe not.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Everything Editor has said

@the topic
It really depends on the job for which you're hiring. If you need a ditch dug and aren't looking to spend any money innovating; it's best to go with the industrious idiot.

 

[Dapper Dan]

@the topic
It really depends on the job for which you're hiring. If you need a ditch dug and aren't looking to spend any money innovating; it's best to go with the industrious idiot.

It still applies. And "industrious" person is likely to just start digging, giving no heed to where the dirt lands. They're also probably more likely to do something like throw out their back or get dehydrated. I think a "lazy" person is probably more likely to stop and consider these things before diving in.