What's your 'Art'?

[Words]

What's art to you? Care to show a sample?

 

[Sparrow]

 

[Words]

What's this?

 

[Pythia]

To me, art is a form of expression that uses symbolic language, and through which feelings are transmitted.

A random example:

 

[Ermine]

In my opinion, art is seeing someone's unique perspective, organized in an aesthetically pleasing manner. Some of my art is in the Art Gallery thread, and here's some more recent art I have made.

 

[Words]

Expression, Symbolism and Feelings? So what are the feelings that are expressed in that example? I see boredom btw.

 

[Pythia]

Well, I used the first example I found, and the painting is actually titled "No walk today", so yes, sort of like boredom.

I like Ermine's examples.

 

[Words]

@Ermine
Unique Aesthetic Perspective. Its interesting how even if you try to express your own perception through those pictures, others will still make their own. So how can I form the same perspective? I see those pictures as a tiny creature in a huge colorful vast world. Individual then size, then colors.

 

[Ermine]

@Ermine
Unique Aesthetic Perspective. Its interesting how even if you try to express your own perception through those pictures, others will still make their own. So how can I form the same perspective? I see those pictures as a tiny creature in a huge colorful vast world. Individual then size, then colors.

I don't think it's necessary to have the same perspective. In fact, I think the interesting part of art is formulating your own perspective on something (making the art), showing it to people, and seeing what their perspectives are. To some degree, it's not about the art, it's about the thought process.

 

[shoeless]

...art is whatever you make of it. i have a really difficult time defining it.

but honestly, i can see art in damn near anything (which is why i love photography so much).

it's all a matter of personal perspective. so if you call something art, and you genuinely believe it is art, then it is art, regardless of what someone else says.

something that elicits some sort of emotional response. i agree with "expression, symbolism, and feelings".

i dabble in photography, poetry, and your usual drawing/painting type stuff. i wish i was better at crafting stories, but alas...

 

[Words]

...art is whatever you make of it. i have a really difficult time defining it.

but honestly, i can see art in damn near anything (which is why i love photography so much).

it's all a matter of personal perspective. so if you call something art, and you genuinely believe it is art, then it is art, regardless of what someone else says.

something that elicits some sort of emotional response. i agree with "expression, symbolism, and feelings".

i dabble in photography, poetry, and your usual drawing/painting type stuff. i wish i was better at crafting stories, but alas...

I can definitely see expression and symbolism in literature...but feelings?

 

[shoeless]

are you kidding me? what literature doesn't have some serious emotional undercurrents?

 

[Words]

I guess its because I've mostly only read Textbooks. Would you mind sharing a short "artful" sentence from literature that you know?

 

[shoeless]

...uhhh. you could just go read a poem, or a short story, or hell, even pick up a novel. i can't really pick one "artful" sentence off the top of my head or anything.

 

[Agent Intellect]

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YouTube- Jupiter sounds (so strange!) NASA-Voyager recording

YouTube- sounds of saturn

 

[Words]

somehow reminds me of extraterrestrial lifeforms, aliens, and universal 'voice". I really can't capture it. How is this art?

 

[Agent Intellect]

somehow reminds me of extraterrestrial lifeforms, aliens, and universal 'voice". I really can't capture it. How is this art?

How is it not?

 

[Words]

What I mean was...I couldn't capture the "essence" or meaning or go through its flow .

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Its Art to you but how would you describe it as? How do you describe your art?

 

[Anthile]

Unfortunately, I'm not much of an artist. However, I do some performance art here on this website.
It's not much but, hey, better than nothing, no?

 

[Words]

Performance art? What sort? Theater? ...Art on the forum?

 

[shoeless]

he was making a funny.

tee-hee.

 

[Agent Intellect]

What I mean was...I couldn't capture the "essence" or meaning or go through its flow .

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Its Art to you but how would you describe it as? How do you describe your art?

The meaning? That's sort of the point - it has no meaning. It's ordered chaos, images and sounds being created by the interactions of independent inanimate objects. There is no purpose - only silently moving, violent upheaval on an astronomical scale that holds a mirror up to our own hubris to show how insignificant and futile it is. The universe does not reveal it's secrets to us because it owes us nothing, it will continue in meaningless beauty in our absence. We are not entitled to live here, and that makes the wonder and awe of the vastness of existence so much more grand because we are lucky enough to be here and experience it, against all odds. Art made by human hands pales in comparison to the meaningless beauty of the cosmos, only able to portray the ugliness of our own ego - the idea of existence as a totality, a complete positivity, an utter plenitude, and an elegant truth is art at its finest, and all we as humans can do is catch but minuscule facets of the grand entirety.

And now you've made me destroy the arts self-evidence with silly words.

 

[intuitivet]

 

[Da Blob]

My personal definition of 'Art" is the expression of one's humanity. Therefore, all the Humanities are art forms. I no longer perform music - but I still write and play with photoshop. I learned how to do youtube videos a couple of weeks ago, but I have found the experience to be disappointing so i probably won't do many more.When I first joined the forum, I mistakenly (?) thought that the Forum itself was a new type of art form, so i played around alot with colors and sizes of fonts etc. Unfortunately most forum members saw my post(ers) as annoying more than anything else (I wonder if that has changed? ...lol)

Anyway here's one my recent photoshop efforts

[bimgx=700]http://www.intpforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1013&stc=1&d=1263844243[/bimgx]

 

[BigApplePi]

Art? Visual art would have something to do with creating a world either externally or suggesting a part of an abstraction with some meaning conscious or unconscious. It need not be beautiful but must somehow be successful. Here is something appealing to me I didn't work hard on finding:
http://subproduto.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/275px-lilith_john_collier_painting.jpg

 

[intuitivet]

My personal definition of 'Art" is the expression of one's humanity. Therefore, all the Humanities are art forms. I no longer perform music - but I still write and play with photoshop. I learned how to do youtube videos a couple of weeks ago, but I have found the experience to be disappointing so i probably won't do many more.When I first joined the forum, I mistakenly (?) thought that the Forum itself was a new type of art form, so i played around alot with colors and sizes of fonts etc. Unfortunately most forum members saw my post(ers) as annoying more than anything else (I wonder if that has changed? ...lol)

Anyway here's one my recent photoshop efforts

[bimgx=700]http://www.intpforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1013&stc=1&d=1263844243[/bimgx]

I like this alot, it's like leaves in space or manta rays in the ocean, could be many things, many possibilities!

 

[BigApplePi]

My personal definition of 'Art" is the expression of one's humanity. Therefore, all the Humanities are art forms. I no longer perform music - but I still write and play with photoshop. I learned how to do youtube videos a couple of weeks ago, but I have found the experience to be disappointing so i probably won't do many more.When I first joined the forum, I mistakenly (?) thought that the Forum itself was a new type of art form, so i played around alot with colors and sizes of fonts etc. Unfortunately most forum members saw my post(ers) as annoying more than anything else (I wonder if that has changed? ...lol)

Anyway here's one my recent photoshop efforts

[bimgx=700]http://www.intpforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1013&stc=1&d=1263844243[/bimgx]

You see, Da Blob, that is something that has appeal, but I want to know why. The shapes and colors appeal but it's also a cross between order and randomness ..... and that's without looking hard.

 

[FusionKnight]

And now you've made me destroy the arts self-evidence with silly words.

Well I got it...

 

[Words]

The meaning? That's sort of the point - it has no meaning. It's ordered chaos, images and sounds being created by the interactions of independent inanimate objects. There is no purpose - only silently moving, violent upheaval on an astronomical scale that holds a mirror up to our own hubris to show how insignificant and futile it is. The universe does not reveal it's secrets to us because it owes us nothing, it will continue in meaningless beauty in our absence. We are not entitled to live here, and that makes the wonder and awe of the vastness of existence so much more grand because we are lucky enough to be here and experience it, against all odds. Art made by human hands pales in comparison to the meaningless beauty of the cosmos, only able to portray the ugliness of our own ego - the idea of existence as a totality, a complete positivity, an utter plenitude, and an elegant truth is art at its finest, and all we as humans can do is catch but minuscule facets of the grand entirety.

And now you've made me destroy the arts self-evidence with silly words.

I thought it had no meaning.

 

[merzbau]

The meaning? That's sort of the point - it has no meaning. It's ordered chaos, images and sounds being created by the interactions of independent inanimate objects. There is no purpose - only silently moving, violent upheaval on an astronomical scale that holds a mirror up to our own hubris to show how insignificant and futile it is. The universe does not reveal it's secrets to us because it owes us nothing, it will continue in meaningless beauty in our absence. We are not entitled to live here, and that makes the wonder and awe of the vastness of existence so much more grand because we are lucky enough to be here and experience it, against all odds. Art made by human hands pales in comparison to the meaningless beauty of the cosmos, only able to portray the ugliness of our own ego - the idea of existence as a totality, a complete positivity, an utter plenitude, and an elegant truth is art at its finest, and all we as humans can do is catch but minuscule facets of the grand entirety.

AI, that was amazing. i've often thought the exact same thing before, but i could never articulate it. thanks.

i might also add that the natural world has enfolded within it the form of the implicit order (the golden mean, and fibonacci sequence being two examples) and this shows us the hyponoic aspects of existence, which speak to some deeply buried part of us.

 

[Da Blob]

I like this alot, it's like leaves in space or manta rays in the ocean, could be many things, many possibilities!

The title of that image is "Coming to the Surface", if that helps...

Hmmm? two people like something i did - what are the odds of that? actually i think my photobucket account has had like a quarter million 'hits' this past year.

Well if anyone from the forum would like to save any of my stuff for a screensaver or whatever, just drop me a PM and I will email a high resolution version...

 

[Chronomar]

Art is that which conveys meaning. Words are art. This is art: ""

Really, under such a broad (and subjective) definition, I could make anything art. Which, as some might say, makes "art", as a word, lose its value.

However, just like the dictionary, I have multiple definitions for the word art. One is how I view it (the definition already listed). The other is a workable definition based on how society views art. This society-approved definition states that art is anything created by a human being which, through its aesthetics and content conveys meaning through any one of the senses.

That definition takes the word "art" and shrinks its application down a notch.

But is an idea not art? Are things in nature not art?

Art, it is true, is made by humans. But the maker of the art is not the hands that sculpt or the violin which plays, but rather the individuals who add the meaning.

In this way, one physical piece of art is created again and again each time someone new experiences it.

 

[flow]

Anything by my man, Banksy. A sample would be my new display pic. But if you want some mo'...

 

[BigApplePi]

I like this alot, it's like leaves in space or manta rays in the ocean, could be many things, many possibilities!

You see. intuitivet said of Da Blobs work what I could not.

To add, it abstracts something appealing about motion with a light enhancement. So ..... what is that appeal?

 

[BigApplePi]

Flows post. Art versus aesthetic appeal? Art if it shows the impossible is possible and you believe it.

 

[purpledog]

www.micheledeveze.com.au

 

[JUN]

Art is the work of the artist, and artists are those who create art.

Simply put, "art" lies on the eyes of the observer, much as love does, and all art is justifiably art, for example, one might stumble upon the scribblings of a child or a dead cat on the side-walk and find some deep understanding of the world in it, that same person might see Pablo Picasso's Guernica (globally publicized as art) and go "heh, I suppose that's nice..." There is really no point in discussing the subjectivity of art, art is everything you want it to be, simply put.

The only limitation there is to art is existence VS. non-existence, if it doesn't exist then it's not art, by non-existence I mean something that truly doesn't exist, some fact beyond our grasp, not things which haven't been created.

No matter what the intentions of the artist are... People will always see different things in every single "work of art". Hm... No matter how hard an artist tries to express a feeling or thought, someone somewhere will totally misinterpret and someone somewhere will, perhaps, get it completely right.

Hm, basically, these thoughts are why I decided to quit the subjective and pointless world of art, I do not seek to express myself publicly if I'm not going to be fully understood.

 

[Anchorite]

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Art is anything that makes somebody feel something. The instant somebody feels something from a particular thing, it becomes art. Until that something has done that though, I don't believe it can honestly be called art.