What you hear is wrong.

[Helvete]

My taste in music is the best. Nobody has better taste than me because no one has experienced exactly what I have felt and listen to; therefore my taste is the best taste.

I don't care what artists you throw at me, it'll never amount to a better library to the one I'v accumulated.

I can say this about anything I enjoy and it'll be better than what anyone else enjoys.

Anyone can make this claim, they'd be 100% correct to do so. But I don't care as my tastes are better than anyone else's.

Opinions are irrelevant. But mine has to be the best opinion because it's the most irrelevant opinion.

 

[Latte]

Yeah, I agree, my music taste is the best.

Let us celebrate.

\o/ //o /o/ o// o/_ _\o \o\ \\o \o\ _o_ \o/

 

[Helvete]

Yeah, I agree, my music taste is the best.

Let us celebrate.

\o/ //o /o/ o// o/_ _\o \o\ \\o \o\ _o_ \o/

Yes, let's celebrate! We'll have to do it to my music though

 

[Cherry Cola]

my music taste is best because I have amplified my music experiences with better drugs than you hence achieving sublime experience topping regular sober listening easily

 

[Helvete]

my music taste is best because I have amplified my music experiences with better drugs than you hence achieving sublime experience topping regular sober listening easily

But I don't care. I already said this. Your experiences are your experiences and until I delve into what you've done it's all meaningless. In the meantime my taste still wins

 

[Hawkeye]

Are you a savant? I can't taste music.

 

[Helvete]

Are you a savant? I can't taste music.

No, unfortunately. You just have a faulty sensory system, you should get it refunded or something.

 

[Latte]

Are you a savant? I can't taste music.

I can taste music! Omg I'm a savant ep1c syn43sthes14 u can't control this.

That means my taste is indeed the best, just as Coolly Chera and Helvetica suggests.

 

[Cherry Cola]

You do not understand. Your experiences do not matter, they are confounded by your brain chemistry, thus limited mine is not. <- 100% objective

 

[Helvete]

I can taste music! Omg I'm a savant ep1c syn43sthes14 u can't control this.

That means my taste is indeed the best, just as Coolly Chera and Helvetica suggests.

Helvetica hey, sounds like someone with an awesome taste for music. Someone where the colours will wash the crazy thoughts of deluded lattessa away.

I hope irrelevance is brought back to the norm now, and my taste prevails

 

[Helvete]

You do not understand. Your experiences do not matter, they are confounded by your brain chemistry, thus limited mine is not. <- 100% objective

It's limited experience actually, it will bend the brain chemistry making for a more accommodating brain over time. No ones experiences matter. Not even yours cola; it'll only ever matter the the experiencee

 

[scorpiomover]

My taste in music is the best. Nobody has better taste than me because no one has experienced exactly what I have felt and listen to; therefore my taste is the best taste.

I don't care what artists you throw at me, it'll never amount to a better library to the one I'v accumulated.

I can say this about anything I enjoy and it'll be better than what anyone else enjoys.

Anyone can make this claim, they'd be 100% correct to do so. But I don't care as my tastes are better than anyone else's.

Opinions are irrelevant. But mine has to be the best opinion because it's the most irrelevant opinion.

That is why criticism is almost always subjective, and is far more applicable to the speaker, than his audience.

 

[Cherry Cola]

It's limited experience actually, it will bend the brain chemistry making for a more accommodating brain over time. No ones experiences matter. Not even yours cola; it'll only ever matter the the experiencee

Yes it does, my experience matters to me. As does yours to you. Mine just matters more to me than yours does to you because I cheated and amplified it. Therefore I win. Something being subjective is not the same as something not mattering.

 

[Latte]

Something being subjective is not the same as something not mattering.

http://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c

 

[Cherry Cola]

I am afraid you are being irrational please go believe in the afterlife somewhere else

 

[Helvete]

That is why criticism is almost always subjective, and is far more applicable to the speaker, than his audience.

Everythings subjective. To nearly every rule there's an exception, so what are rules for anyway? only guidelines should be used, or ideas. I think I'm agreeable here but still subjective

Yes it does, my experience matters to me. As does yours to you. Mine just matters more to me than yours does to you because I cheated and amplified it. Therefore I win. Something being subjective is not the same as something not mattering.

What i said was wrong, i didn't really mean it either. My point is yours but yours is only half right anyway. amplifying isn't cheating, even though mines the best it's still not a competition. All amplifying will do is enhance the experience. Until you do this you cannot say it's better, you can only assume so. To everyone else they only know the limits of their experience and that'll be the best for them, so will not care about other peoples. Or shouldn't care. At least I don't care.

Do you see what I mean? You cannot win, even when you have the best you still cannot win!

 

[Base groove]

I have mediocre taste in music but I find yours lacking even more.

 

[Helvete]

I have mediocre taste in music but I find yours lacking even more.

I think you'll find you have a mega advances taste in music, so advanced you'v actually got bored of it all, nonetheless you still think it's the best. But you'd be wrong even if that was the case, as mines still better.

 

[Base groove]

You actually have the worst taste of all but because you're at the bottom you just stood on your head to compensate.

 

[Helvete]

You actually have the worst taste of all but because you're at the bottom you just stood on your head to compensate.

Hmmm, the taste of ignorance reeks in this one. The lowest I'd fall on an average day is somewhere near around the toppest of the top that you'v only felt once or twice. Sweet euphoria, you're so beautiful.
One day you will learn, you will achieve and be where I am, then mild days will be awed upon by others.

 

[Latte]

I am afraid you are being irrational please go believe in the afterlife somewhere else

D-don't Cognisant(TM) me bro, or I'll Te you in the kneecaps.

Being afraid is an emotion. You are an F, therefore the rest of the sentence need not be considered, you magical Fairy.

It's me, not you, who smokes spock every day, I analyze the patterns in the music and evaluate them within an objective framework with objective standards set based on non-arbitrary values derived from insight into the workings of the human mind and the universe. You can't explain that. My binders are full of musics.

I'm the universe. Sounds for the sound God.

Playing fetch with cats.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Lissen you little shit, I have a very respectable Lastfm account with thousands of listens to brilliant musicians, I bet you listen to skrillex and avicii and taylor swift, probably because you're slow in the head. I listen to the real deal man. Even the sound of cityscape seeps through my senses in marvellous crescendos, I hear the birds and I can sense the cosmic soul, hear it breath. Inhale, exhale; tension, release, even when I masturbate one eyed Jack sings to me in a voice of old, he soothes like silk, splendor, subtle vibratos in the upper 4th octave and deep hummings in the first all at once. Such is my musical prowess.

I am afraid you must accept defeat you sniveling pig!

 

[Latte]

Lissen you little shit, I have a very respectable Lastfm account with thousands of listens to brilliant musicians, I bet you listen to skrillex and avicii and taylor swift, probably because you're slow in the head. I listen to the real deal man. Even the sound of cityscape seeps through my senses in marvellous crescendos, I hear the birds and I can sense the cosmic soul, hear it breath. Inhale, exhale; tension, release, even when I masturbate one eyed Jack sings to me in a voice of old, he soothes like silk, splendor, subtle vibratos in the upper 4th octave and deep hummings in the first all at once. Such is my musical prowess.

I am afraid you must accept defeat you sniveling pig!

Ditto on all of it. Plus one. Plus all you say in the future.

 

[nexion]

My taste in music is the best. Nobody has better taste than me because no one has experienced exactly what I have felt and listen to; therefore my taste is the best taste.

I don't care what artists you throw at me, it'll never amount to a better library to the one I'v accumulated.

I can say this about anything I enjoy and it'll be better than what anyone else enjoys.

Anyone can make this claim, they'd be 100% correct to do so. But I don't care as my tastes are better than anyone else's.

Opinions are irrelevant. But mine has to be the best opinion because it's the most irrelevant opinion.

I have no reason to doubt these assertions, but don't you think it at all possible that there does exist other music not in your collection that would certainly add to it? Is your taste in music the best because it is complete or because it is yours? If the latter, then where could be the harm in listening to new music? If it is subpar compared to the rest of your collection, you merely discard it and move on, but there is always the possibility that it makes your music taste even more perfect.

 

[Helvete]

I have no reason to doubt these assertions, but don't you think it at all possible that there does exist other music not in your collection that would certainly add to it? Is your taste in music the best because it is complete or because it is yours? If the latter, then where could be the harm in listening to new music? If it is subpar compared to the rest of your collection, you merely discard it and move on, but there is always the possibility that it makes your music taste even more perfect.

Nothing is ever perfect or complete and it would bore me so fast if I find out I'm wrong. I say my collection is the best; this is because my opinion is subjective and I cannot experience other peoples experiences first hand and vice versa.

I experience something wonderful, the best thing I'v ever had and someone else experiences something even better. My expectations of the other persons experience are only as good as the best I'v had, as I don't know any better, I can only imagine what it's like but will never really know until I do it. I used the subject of music as an example but anyone can say this and apply it to anything. It's the best because it's the limits of that persons experience, so even though it may not actually be the best (but that's subject to perception), it's the best that persons perceived and will only get better when the mind perceives something better.

So it has nothing to do with me believing my music taste has reached a state of perfection and wholeness, as that's ignorant and absurd. People like that sicken me. You can ignore all of this though, it's just my opinion.

 

[nexion]

Nothing is ever perfect or complete and it would bore me so fast if I find out I'm wrong. I say my collection is the best; this is because my opinion is subjective and I cannot experience other peoples experiences first hand and vice versa.

I experience something wonderful, the best thing I'v ever had and someone else experiences something even better. My expectations of the other persons experience are only as good as the best I'v had, as I don't know any better, I can only imagine what it's like but will never really know until I do it. I used the subject of music as an example but anyone can say this and apply it to anything. It's the best because it's the limits of that persons experience, so even though it may not actually be the best (but that's subject to perception), it's the best that persons perceived and will only get better when the mind perceives something better.

So it has nothing to do with me believing my music taste has reached a state of perfection and wholeness, as that's ignorant and absurd. People like that sicken me. You can ignore all of this though, it's just my opinion.

I suspected that music was merely a microcosm for all subjective experience, but I was unsure if the viewpoint you were expressing was a realistic subjectivism that encourages personal growth, one that emphasized the primacy of subjectivity to the exclusion of all else, or perhaps even a satire of the latter by hilighting its absurdities through something mundane such as music, rather than a more abstract concept such as metaphysical truth or epistemological possibility. The last position would have been a very interesting one to take, a sort of Devil's Advocate argument designed solely to show the inadequacies in its own view rather than show the adequacies of an opposing view.

We are in agreeance on this subject, though.

 

[Hawkeye]

The best piece of music I've heard doesn't exist. It was a mangled perception brought on by mind altering stimuli.

Nothing has come close to it, or maybe it has, but my warped memory of a warped experience has biased my opinion. The piece of music could be utter trash to my sober mind.

 

[Base groove]

The piece of music could be utter trash to my sober mind.

Was it the Flaming Lips or Phish?

 

[Void]

depends, what is your definition of 'best taste in music'.

 

[Helvete]

depends, what is your definition of 'best taste in music'.

Did you read any of the comments?

What's your definition for it?

 

[Void]

Did you read any of the comments?

What's your definition for it?

some, most, lost my attention somewhere.

AFAIK there is no such thing as a 'best opinion', which is what taste in music is, an opinion. Best is absolute, opinions are not (mostly), at least not taste in music.

If you define 'best' as 'best for me' (however phrased), you are right, because it is your taste. Which is your point in the OP. However, you said best, and not best for me, hence my posts.

Cannonball.

 

[Josteen]

Well what you're saying is right for your own concept but not necessarily the right for others, even the arrangements of atoms in our body differs greatly from part to part even if you're related.
Some people enjoys to eat candle, plastics or any other things that I find inedible for me, and whatever they do to advertise that preferences won't make me want to do what they do because even if I tries eating that weird stuff I won't have the same feeling as they do and there is nothing I can do to make them dislike eating those stuff because they don't feel what i feel about those things.
Therefore sir you are being irrational by forcing your preferences to others and believing other who don't feel like you do as inferior.
If you truly held that belief that means everybody else can say the same to you which in the end become meaningless and irrational in all sense

 

[deadpixel]

My taste in music is the best. Nobody has better taste than me because no one has experienced exactly what I have felt and listen to; therefore my taste is the best taste.

I don't care what artists you throw at me, it'll never amount to a better library to the one I'v accumulated.

I can say this about anything I enjoy and it'll be better than what anyone else enjoys.

Anyone can make this claim, they'd be 100% correct to do so. But I don't care as my tastes are better than anyone else's.

Opinions are irrelevant. But mine has to be the best opinion because it's the most irrelevant opinion.

Basically your reality is the only reality that matters, because someone else's reality is going to be completely different than your own reality. Therefore, someone else's reality is insignificant to your own reality and vice versa because they are different realities.

This concept can be applied to anything.

 

[nexion]

Well what you're saying is right for your own concept but not necessarily the right for others, even the arrangements of atoms in our body differs greatly from part to part even if you're related.
Some people enjoys to eat candle, plastics or any other things that I find inedible for me, and whatever they do to advertise that preferences won't make me want to do what they do because even if I tries eating that weird stuff I won't have the same feeling as they do and there is nothing I can do to make them dislike eating those stuff because they don't feel what i feel about those things.
Therefore sir you are being irrational by forcing your preferences to others and believing other who don't feel like you do as inferior.
If you truly held that belief that means everybody else can say the same to you which in the end become meaningless and irrational in all sense

Basically your reality is the only reality that matters, because someone else's reality is going to be completely different than your own reality. Therefore, someone else's reality is insignificant to your own reality and vice versa because they are different realities.

This concept can be applied to anything.

http://intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=430257&postcount=25

Y'all mothafsckers should read moar.

@Josteen, he also isn't forcing his preference onto others, note that though he says his music taste is the best he is implicitly relativizing that statement within his own frame of reference.

I really don't see how this concept is irrational or how its universality could diminish its value if any way.

 

[Helvete]

I suspected that music was merely a microcosm for all subjective experience, but I was unsure if the viewpoint you were expressing was a realistic subjectivism that encourages personal growth, one that emphasized the primacy of subjectivity to the exclusion of all else, or perhaps even a satire of the latter by hilighting its absurdities through something mundane such as music, rather than a more abstract concept such as metaphysical truth or epistemological possibility. The last position would have been a very interesting one to take, a sort of Devil's Advocate argument designed solely to show the inadequacies in its own view rather than show the adequacies of an opposing view.

We are in agreeance on this subject, though.

You'd be right in your assumption here.

As for my viewpoint however, there wasn't a specific viewpoint in particular. From what you said though it would fall into the first two; as it encourages personal growth but in a near nihilistic way. Emphasizing the subjectivity of everything in a way that shows nothing anyone thinks really matters, as it's all subjective anyway. A way to 'exclude' or ignore other peoples waffle to think about what you like and form your own opinions without having others forced upon you.

some, most, lost my attention somewhere.

AFAIK there is no such thing as a 'best opinion', which is what taste in music is, an opinion. Best is absolute, opinions are not (mostly), at least not taste in music.

If you define 'best' as 'best for me' (however phrased), you are right, because it is your taste. Which is your point in the OP. However, you said best, and not best for me, hence my posts.

Cannonball.

Best for me is still just best as my OP was expressing an opinion about what I thought was best. But it's all still subjective so I can call it what I like and so can anyone else.

I get what you're saying but was that hair really worth splitting?

Well what you're saying is right for your own concept but not necessarily the right for others, even the arrangements of atoms in our body differs greatly from part to part even if you're related.
Some people enjoys to eat candle, plastics or any other things that I find inedible for me, and whatever they do to advertise that preferences won't make me want to do what they do because even if I tries eating that weird stuff I won't have the same feeling as they do and there is nothing I can do to make them dislike eating those stuff because they don't feel what i feel about those things.
Therefore sir you are being irrational by forcing your preferences to others and believing other who don't feel like you do as inferior.
If you truly held that belief that means everybody else can say the same to you which in the end become meaningless and irrational in all sense

Go do some re reading. It's not about persuading or being persuaded to like things. Nothing to do with that.

Basically your reality is the only reality that matters, because someone else's reality is going to be completely different than your own reality. Therefore, someone else's reality is insignificant to your own reality and vice versa because they are different realities.

This concept can be applied to anything.

Bravo.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Would I hear right in hearing that I hear wrong?

 

[Hawkeye]

I think wrong is the wrong word for the title.

You'd probably be better off using something similar to a Roy Walker phrase:

It's good, but it's not right.

 

[Helvete]

maybe but you'd be in a state of such paradoxical confusion you wouldn't even know.

 

[Helvete]

I think wrong is the wrong word for the title.

You'd probably be better off using something similar to a Roy Walker phrase:

LOL. I think the titles fine, I put more thought into the title than the actual thread. It's a controversial opinion that can be easily disproved, or maybe not so easily. I wholeheartedly conclude it's the best thread title for this particular thread.