What type of animal is the ENTJ?

[Perseus]

What type of animal is the ENTJ?

Don't forget to vote before you look at the vote results.

 

[murkrow]

Here's the issues I've been having with associating an animal to the ENTJ:

eagle: ENTJs are one of the more foresighted types with their eye always on the full picture, yet with the ability to focus and reason through specific issues. This trait seems to be captured in the "eagle eye" and also the high perch of an eagle. The fact that ENTJs rarely (not yet in my case) consider any obstacle impassible is also an argument for flight, especially high flight. The problems with the eagle come in with the solitary element of the animal, ENTJs are mobilizers, they are known for their ability and willingness to make difficult decisions effecting others quickly and without remorse.

Lion: Lion seems to match perfectly in every way except for the lack of flight, which is no small flaw. In the lion is found competition and the quest for a self made paradise in the life of a male. In the lioness we find excecutive decision making, strategy and resourcefulness. Do these links overcome the lack of flight?

Elephant and bull I see very little ENTJ in.

Whale... hm. Sort of a stupid, mysterious and often vegetarian creature... Maybe an orca, but I don't really know too much about them. All in all I think lion and eagle match better.

Really the ENTJ is a Gryphon.

 

[Fleur]

I`m just curious... Why do you want to know?

 

[murkrow]

I`m just curious... Why do you want to know?

Wow, that's a weird thing to read on this forum.

 

[Ogion]

No, i don't think it is weird to ask. At least not especially with this question. I mean, do we agree, that characterising und applying 'animals' to personality types is something of opinion, not of objective analysing? See, i would very probably characterise cats and horses very different from most of you, because my parents have both (ok cats are more commonplace, but my parents have by now some 45 horses...). So i have different experiences with them and would describe them differently. So, the task of choosing 'animals' for personality types is subjective and the above poll, with prechosen answers is a bit useless.
It would be much more useful, to start a thread where everyone defines and characterises *his* 'animal'-descriptions.

Ogion

 

[Fleur]

I`m asking it because it seems that all, what this Perseus is posting, is about these animal types.

 

[Perseus]

The INFP Questor will ask questions? It is type habitual.

The edge of the map says "Dragons are there"

When I wake up in the morning I am a Dragon and turn into an Eagle (INTP) as the day goes on. This is the Perseus Animal Type Mythology. You are welcome to design your own. I am not about to Bully you into accepting my scheme of things.

Dragons may be hurt by excessive criticism. It says so somewhere.

 

[Perseus]

In England the Gryphon is known as the Griffin. I did not recognise the name at first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin

This Griffin is a right powerful creature, almost a God methinks. A super-type, multiple morph-shifter.

 

[Perseus]

I am still undecided about the animal allocations

see

http://soredragon.blogspot.com/2008/07/mooladhara-chakra.html

All NTs have the possibility of Eagle status. Which is the most deserving?

 

[Aphasia]

Well, so is a dragon.

Anyway, murkrow likes being able to fly, so let him be a whale (doesn't make sense at all, even to me) (Orcas are a species (or was it genus?)more closely related to dolphins, not whales).

On topic: Elephants are gentle herd animals, until you endanger (or seem to endanger) their young, at which point, they'll trample you. :1 Not much like ENTJs. Many species of hawk and eagle are quite shy. Male lions are lazy brawlers (really). Lionesses are better examples of ENTJ-ness, but the poll isn't about them, it's about the popular males. I don't know about bulls, so I'm not making a desicion on them, and I can't thnk of something that'll quite suit ENTJs, so... not voting right now.

EDIT: INTX :P

 

[Perseus]

I have put down ENTJ as the Griffin, flightless one.

 

[murkrow]

A flightless griffin?

Isn't that just a less effective lion?

 

[Dissident]

Hey, if you are Eagle you get this song as motto, worth considering

YouTube- Stratovarius - Eagleheart [Repair]
Eagleheart by Stratovarius

 

[Perseus]

The ENTJ is not known for flights of the imagination. Grounded (not flighty) in reality. Has the talons though, so a lion with talons. Best I can do for now, working on other things.

 

[murkrow]

This whole project is in serious need of an NTJ.

 

[Perseus]

This whole project is in serious need of an NTJ.

Strictly speaking, it is a Perceiving issue. Other opinions wanted. Not even thought about Judgement Day. Intuition is so unreliable that alternative opinions are required. Six months should sort it for the preliminary investigation. Twenty years in the medium term. Judgement in half a millenium. Quick method.

Way back in Babylon.

 

[Ogion]

You know, Perseus, one problem i have with you or your project is, that most of the time, for me, you seem to speak in riddles. I mean, you last post:

Strictly speaking, it is a Perceiving issue. Other opinions wanted. Not even thought about Judgement Day. Intuition is so unreliable that alternative opinions are required. Six months should sort it for the preliminary investigation. Twenty years in the medium term. Judgement in half a millenium. Quick method.

Way back in Babylon.

The only thing i can take from that is that you think the beginning of your theory has to be made in 'perceiving mode'/observation. The rest i can't bring sense into. "Quick method"? Babylon?

No offence intended.

Ogion

 

[Perseus]

You know, Perseus, one problem i have with you or your project is, that most of the time, for me, you seem to speak in riddles. I mean, you last post:



The only thing i can take from that is that you think the beginning of your theory has to be made in 'perceiving mode'/observation. The rest i can't bring sense into. "Quick method"? Babylon?

No offence intended.

Ogion

A INFP trait. I admitted to speak in eataphors and they said it is all metaphors. I really do not know how to explain in any other way?!

The real life events involve attempted murder and intimidation frrom ESFJ adversaries.

Biblical references. I do not know my Bible, but this is ESP (a INFP trait).

Some people think in English, some Mandarin and some metaphors. Then we try and translate. basic INFP, but we all have to have INTP (thinking component added because the cultural memes vary).

Intuitives clash worse than personalities.

Andy
http://soredragon.blogspot.com/

 

[Kuu]

That is precisely why I asked on another thread (like Fleur asked here) the reason for his animal types, and why he polls us... He seems to "speak in riddles", and everybody has a hard time understanding. Communication is only effective when a language is shared, and he posts in his cryptic metaphors and personal references, without explaining anything... so how does he expect us to understand, and to respond?

The point of posting in a forum is communication... what is the point of posting something incomprehensible, of speaking in a language only you can decipher?

 

[Dissident]

Besides the forum is so flooded with threads and polls about this animals thing that it looks like its the big project of the whole forum, and its not even an INTP thing.
He signs as Andy, the blog he constantly links is owned by Andy Horton, this respectable guy:
http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Andy.htm
(I dont think this is Perseus)

 

[Perseus]

Metaphorical speaking is INFP Dragon mode. To qualify for INTP Eagle mode requires the expedient of extra thinking about the translation. Or Intuition (the Jungle) refined to Sensing (each individual animal in the jungle).

More later.

 

[Fleur]

... and Perseus seems to avoid to answer directly.

 

[Ogion]

And if he answers he speaks in riddles, or does anybody understand what he wants? I think i am near to give up understanding him.

Ogion

 

[murkrow]

I understand everything he says.

You aren't missing anything.

 

[Dissident]

I had it easier understanding Yozuki

 

[Ogion]

Oh sure that. I mean, Yozuki just distorts grammar (leaving out verbs and such), but Perseus mostly makes grammatically correct sentences, but they don't just make sense for me.

Ogion

 

[murkrow]

He speaks pig logic.

 

[Dissident]

Pig logic, I had to look that up. You mean this?:

Pig logic is basically someone finding an example of something and using that example to apply to everything. For example, someone sees a couple of black people committing a crime and therefore saying that all black people are criminals. Basically not unlike making generalisations.

 

[murkrow]

Oh... no.

I meant that it's like pig latin/pig german.

If you have absolutely no knowledge of the real thing then you could mistake the pig version for the real one.

I don't think that definition you quoted really applies to what I mean because it uses the term pig in the sense of "racist pig" or "misogynist pig".

 

[Ogion]

You mean "pidgin"? But ok, i understand what you mean.

Ogion

 

[Wisp]

Yeah, at least Yozuki was actually cool. (THough I did get a bit short with him once) I looked him up on DeviantArt and read some of his stuff.

 

[loveofreason]

Back to the topic:

what about the sulfur-crested white cockatoo?

 

[Perseus]

Back to the topic:

what about the sulfur-crested white cockatoo?

Close. Comes under Budgie (INFJ common variant) or Parakeet