What shall ye choose?

[Rook]

Your ex is crazy, and hates your guts.
Due to this he/she has liberated a nuclear warhead from the russians, and is now threatening to luanch it on a small city. A million people will die.
There is a way to stop this, though.
If you kill yourself, your ex will cease and desist.

 

[The Gopher]

Sigh I assume faking my own death and going into hiding while she is captured isn't an option? I wouldn't as I would assume it was a bluff. That said I am again changing the scenario.

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

My life is the most important thing for me.
Also, it is not my problem than some people would die. Not me would kill them.

[should I write: not me or not I ?]

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

A milion people I will never know.

A milion people that will never get to know me.

In any scenario, we miss each other completely, we were in a different dimension from the beginning.

Relatively neither I or they exist. So I can exist for myself for all that not matters.

 

[Jennywocky]

Why can't I just kill him instead?

Or confuse him with logic? ("Suicide is too good for me, it will put an end to my suffering ; but I'd feel horrible for the rest of my life if you died. Please please don't kill YOURSELF... I don't know how I'd bear it!")

 

[Base groove]

If you kill yourself, your ex will cease and desist.

If you kill your ex she will cease to exist.

Problem solved.

 

[Base groove]

Oh I suppose it's more like a Bond movie where she's set it up that I have no choice but to die a slow horrible death of multiple drownings and heart attacks or launch the warhead myself while she watches behind bulletproof glass in a completely white room and a siren is loudly blaring, and the warehouse lighting alternates between dull red and completely dark while a hundred workers in lab coats frantically run around organizing the event, and a clock counts down the final minute of my life.

I guess I will have to think about this scenario all day and vote later.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

If you kill your ex she will cease to exist.

Problem solved.

Where is the drama then? You kill one unjust person to save the milion, simple and clean.

We need more drama here.

 

[BigApplePi]

Due to this he/she has liberated a nuclear warhead from the russians, and is now threatening to luanch it on a small city. A million people will die.

That's okay. Fortunately it's only a threat.

There is a way to stop this, though.
If you kill yourself, your ex will cease and desist.

That's an option, but there are others.[/QUOTE]

Your ex is crazy, and hates your guts.

Send her to the INTP Forum. We treat crazy people here. 100 percent* success rate.

*

Spoiler

or less

 

[The Void]

kill the ex.
Launch the nuclear poop and let the millions die.
Then kill myself.
No man no problem-Stalin.

 

[Spirit]

Report ex to CIA.

It's their problem to save those people. I am not qualified to disarm a nuclear device and I cannot get my ex to stop the missile launch because I cannot know for certain she will not press the button after I die.

At this point in my life I would not sacrifice myself for something I do not have direct control over.


She is my ex I cannot trust her.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Good one BAP.

1 Million wouldn't live up to the Stalin "greatness", 1 million is nothing compared to his achievements in that field.

 

[Jennywocky]

kill the ex.
Launch the nuclear poop and let the millions die.
Then kill myself.
No man no problem-Stalin.

I would like to revise my earlier answer.

"Kill The Void first, to save humanity.
Then kill my ex.
Then sit down with a bottle of Jack Daniels and a bag of ice and watch the stars."

 

[Pyropyro]

I'll just probably notify the government of said small city about the threat so that they can evacuate their citizens or at least prepare countermeasures. The current nuclear superpowers might also like to have a word with my ex. No need for me to spill my blood at all.

Besides, I assume that the situation means that I'm not equipped with weapons and minions needed to subdue someone who has the capability to rob nukes. If I were so equipped then I probably won't waste time sending notifications and instead disable her myself.

 

[Cognisant]

Any woman that ties me up and gives me the opportunity to destroy a city full of people without legal ramifications is clearly my soulmate.

 

[EditorOne]

I'm pretty sure the world is a figment of what I'll call my mind.

 

[BigApplePi]

Your ex is crazy, and hates your guts.
Due to this he/she has liberated a nuclear warhead from the russians, and is now threatening to luanch it on a small city. A million people will die.
There is a way to stop this, though.
If you kill yourself, your ex will cease and desist.

Another choice:

I would email (or text) her that I love her. Would she save the bomb so we can sell it to South Korea for $1,000,000? This would work if she were crazy enuf to believe I loved her.

Desperate situations require desperate measures.

 

[robott]

The only when I would think of saving people, would be if it was my entire family + wife + children + all people I respect. But still I don't know whether I would choose their live or mine. Would be easier if I was old and sick. If talking about some random billions of people, I easily choose myself.

 

[The Void]

kill the ex.
Launch the nuclear poop and let the millions die.
Then kill myself.
No man no problem-Stalin.

You deluded bro,
do you remember you are almost asexual,
you will probably never have a girlfriend, and you think of ex, lol?
relationshit is not for you brother.
you are a dead matter, there is no you in you, you are just a machine, a program, nothing more,

and if you change and become normal, then you will be not you anymore.

Well the basics of the thread is probably:
Will you sacrifice yourself for saving the lives of others?

May be I will, (depends on the mood at the actual moment of choice)
life and death are no matter to me, I have emotional attachment to none,
it is merely my instincts that makes me prefer life,

I am a parasite anyway, may be to satisfy my ego, I will kill myself,

There is no act that is without selfishness, even doing good, even sacrificing,
is just for the reward mechanisms within the brain, just ego worship, all ego worship,

the only self less acts appears when you turn to a dead void, dead matter, like me.

detached stranger to the world, nothing matters anymore anyhow.

 

[The Void]

I would like to revise my earlier answer.

"Kill The Void first, to save humanity.
Then kill my ex.
Then sit down with a bottle of Jack Daniels and a bag of ice and watch the stars."

The void cannot be killed, because there is nothing in the void,
the void is already dead or in worse words transcends death and life.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Sacrificing untold numbers of people and resources for personal gain/survival; I'm pretty sure that's the core cause of many of society's gravest ills. I'm not that attached anyway, I wouldn't mind dying all that much, especially since it's on my own terms. I'd do the same for ten or one, but I suppose the number of people at risk really makes no difference to the mentality. It seems a bit irrational to me to be so biased to the self.

I wonder if anyone would change their mind if the decision was public knowledge. I doubt you can be directly responsible for the death of a million people without one of their grieving relatives coming to put a bullet in your head.

 

[Jennywocky]

Any woman that ties me up and gives me the opportunity to destroy a city full of people without legal ramifications is clearly my soulmate.

+50 for one of the most honest and appropriate answers in the thread.

The void cannot be killed, because there is nothing in the void,
the void is already dead or in worse words transcends death and life.

How do you get rid of a void?
Fill it.

So I fill you, echthroi.
Be filled.
Be.

(And if love doesn't work, I'll use a hell of a lot of pingpong balls and styrofoam peanuts. Even candy circus peanuts.)

...I wonder if anyone would change their mind if the decision was public knowledge. I doubt you can be directly responsible for the death of a million people without one of their grieving relatives coming to put a bullet in your head.

Way to up the stakes.

Maybe you can just hope they're all having family picnics that day, so none of the relatives make it out alive.

 

[Variform]

Difficult question. The whole question is...questionable. But I'll bite.

A million people is not s small city, that is one thing. A million less consumers, yet the devastation of a wide swath of land, urban as well as country side around it, the consequence of wind blowing radioactive material all around the world...hurting flora and fauna. Surely that is to be avoided.

Tomorrow there is a summit in The Netherlands, The Hague on these issues. Dirty bombs, you know... nuclear material safety.

Yet, a million less consumers is quite an achievement. Many of who would reproduce, spawning new consumers, that help destroy the natural resources of the finite world.

But life is not scarce. Should one succumb to this type of emotional blackmail?

I guess we all have a martyr-streak in us. But we all want to live. And then our ego comes in, how dare she put us in this position. And so we resist, our self-importance saves us. At what cost?

I think this question is based on the idea that one can ferry between self-importance and righteousness and that one can stand only on one bank at any given time.

I cannot vote in this poll.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

If the ex is crazy I can't trust them to not nuke the city after I'm dead. Either way I'd want some resolution and ask what did I do to make her so mad.

 

[Base groove]

If the ex is crazy I can't trust them to not nuke the city after I'm dead. Either way I'd want some resolution and ask what did I do to make her so mad.

I have exes that are that mad.

 

[Anktark]

How do you get rid of a void?
Fill it.

So I fill you, echthroi.
Be filled.
Be.

(And if love doesn't work, I'll use a hell of a lot of pingpong balls and styrofoam peanuts. Even candy circus peanuts.)

Stop. You can't touch this.

Filling requires space- there isn't any in the Void. We can't even think of the Void or ask what it is. Even the term "Void" is a paradox, an illusion. Ultimately, you cannot get rid of what isn't, much less the Void.


On topic:

I would ridicule my ex and tell her that that's one of the reasons why we broke up. Also, s/he is delusional/misguided if s/he thinks that such a threat attempt is gonna affect me negatively. After a personal insult I tell him/her not to contact me with trivial nonsense or I will taunt her a second time.

 

[redbaron]

I can't really justify sacrificing millions of others for my own sake. It's nice to think of oneself as being special and important relative to others, but I think that just comes down to inflated ego/cognitive dissonance in the end.

I wonder if anyone would change their mind if the decision was public knowledge.

I wonder too.

 

[Spirit]

I wonder if anyone would change their mind if the decision was public knowledge. I doubt you can be directly responsible for the death of a million people without one of their grieving relatives coming to put a bullet in your head.

I can't really justify sacrificing millions of others for my own sake. It's nice to think of oneself as being special and important relative to others, but I think that just comes down to inflated ego/cognitive dissonance in the end.



I wonder too.

I do not see myself as special. I just don't trust my ex. She'd laugh at me dying and still blow up the place because she did all the work of setting it up.

Crazy people are ...


crazy.

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

Your ex is crazy, and hates your guts.
Due to this he/she has liberated a nuclear warhead from the russians1, and is now threatening to luanch it on a small city2. A million people will die3.
There is a way to stop this, though.
If you kill yourself, your ex will cease and desist.

So,
1:
Why the stereotype of the evil russians?
Cold war child much?

2:
A nuclear warhead is usually never pointed towards a small city,
as it does not make much sense to wipe out a small city with a weapon of mass destruction.
(luanch is not an appropriate english word)

3:
Again, you are contradicting yourself.
A small city with a million inhabitants is not a small city.

 

[SpaceYeti]

If she's crazy enough to do such a thing, she cannot be trusted to not kill people with the bomb after I've died.

 

[Rook]

So,
1:
Why the stereotype of the evil russians?
Cold war child much?

2:
A nuclear warhead is usually never pointed towards a small city,
as it does not make much sense to wipe out a small city with a weapon of mass destruction.
(luanch is not an appropriate english word)

3:
Again, you are contradicting yourself.
A small city with a million inhabitants is not a small city.

Who said the Russians are evil? Wether it is stolen from them or the Americans, it doesn't make any one of them evil. I was born in 1995, long after the end of the so called "Cold War".
Presumptions, presumptions.

My knowledge of nuclear weapons is limited.
One may be able to wipe out a million with one of them, yes?
I recognised the small city error, but was simply to lazy to correct it.

All else aside, even though there are mistakes in the set scenario, the scenario only exists for the asking of the question in the poll.

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

Who said the Russians are evil? Wether it is stolen from them or the Americans, it doesn't make any one of them evil. I was born in 1995, long after the end of the so called "Cold War".
Presumptions, presumptions.

My knowledge of nuclear weapons is limited.
One may be able to wipe out a million with one of them, yes?
I recognised the small city error, but was simply to lazy to correct it.

All else aside, even though there are mistakes in the set scenario, the scenario only exists for the asking of the question in the poll.

Sorry, sometimes i split hairs out of pleasure.
Can't help it.

But, to the topic:

Where is the city located in time and space?
What are the qualities of the people living there?

 

[Helvete]

Let the million people die and let her face all the consequences; emotional and physical.

Once/If she spirals into a guilt fuelled depression, I may kill myself just for the lols. The drawback here though is that I won't be able to witness the outcome.

So if anyone else is in this situation before me, mind if you'd do as I do? And let me watch?

 

[Base groove]

I would do both as long as nobody is watching.

 

[covelent]

Exactly what kind of nuclear warhead does she have?

 

[Jennywocky]

Stop. You can't touch this.

Filling requires space- there isn't any in the Void. We can't even think of the Void or ask what it is. Even the term "Void" is a paradox, an illusion. Ultimately, you cannot get rid of what isn't, much less the Void.

Awwww.... I'll give you a circus peanut if you try. *holds out tantalizing fluffy candy*

Exactly what kind of nuclear warhead does she have?

Hopefully one of the ones where she doesn't have the command codes to set it off.

 

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