What is the connection of Heavy Metal and INTP Subculture

[birdsnestfern]

Ok, how can a heavy metal listener (generally I consider heavy metal to be devil worshippers) yet, most here also claim to be Christian? Wtf?

They have two Gods maybe? This music is about dark emotions and violence. Is that really what this group is about? Is it a brotherhood of sorts?

It appears to be a think tank, but deep down it might be something else maybe? Hmm.

I keep seeing music choices like this from people who claim to be Christians. Its confusing, I know I don't fit in to this subculture.
Never was this extreme in mind, and I just think the concept of heaven and hell splits people, its all the same continuum inside you.
Heaven and Hell are within you. All you need to know is to navigate emotions by making them slightly better than they are and transcend them up continuously using logic and thought
and then heaven is within just as much as the other place. We all must go to hell and back again a million times a day. Its just your own power to transcend.

Anyway, I don't really get the heavy metail thing, I have enjoyed Deep Purple in small amounts, but its too rough in general, so I don't endorse it.
Thank you for letting me rant.

But what does it do for you?

The Social Psychology Of Heavy Metal & Rock Music: Research On Metalheads - Cognition Today

This article is an overview of the social psychology research on people who listen to heavy metal music. What is the psychology of metalheads? Find out here. Contrary to popular belief, listening to heavy music or rock music is good for you!

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[ZenRaiden]

I like good music period.
I learned to listen to heavy metal, because my brother used to listen to it.
I don't really see a problem.
Don't know what heavy metal is about devil though.
This is one of the first and most favorits of metal, but its orchestral style and it has nice tune and melody.
I also like Nightwish, and Apocalyptica.
I really cannot be arsed with heavy for sake of heavy though.
I prefer some at least small substance to a song.
I am not very picky about music though.

 

[ZenRaiden]

I think this first album I listened to when I was about 12 years old.

 

[Black Rose]

energy

I think that the word heaviness says it all.

People want to be anchored and grounded, it is the root chakra the physical body.

To decompress one must be compressed.

To absorb one must be bombarded.

Like a hot shower with heavy drops.

To become strong one needs resistance.

To resist is to become stronger.

So we need weight, to feel strong.

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But when there is too much weight we feel weak so we need to feel light.

So it is a way of absorption. of resistance and non resitence.

Sometimes you want heavy blankets sometimes none.

A burden or exaltation.

Sometimes both. To feel powerful and or energetic.

 

[birdsnestfern]

Wow, lots of insights here, appreciate that, thank you, it does help to understand it.
And, I did like the softer versions of it, in the samples above. Ok. I will peace out now.

 

[Cognisant]

I like good music period.

I don't, my taste in music is fucking atrocious.


Lol I like death metal, anything that gets the heart pumping.

 

[dr froyd]

i never really understood the deal with ppl who listen to metal, grow long hair, and wear black clothes etc. For moody teenagers, yes, but grown-ass men? I don't get it, but i guess its like with any type of culture – ppl dress a certain way and develop tastes for certain styles of art/music as a part of a socializing process - to become a part of a group, to create an identity.

 

[ZenRaiden]

I don't, my taste in music is fucking atrocious.

Yeah, but some songs, as Zizek puts so bad you just have to listen to them.

 

[Cognisant]

Yes fantastic

 

[Drvladivostok]

I can't speak about the religious aspect since I'm not a christian.

I don't necessearily hear heavy metal, I like hard rock, but its as energetic as I can get, for me, strong and memontous emotional energy ought to be flowed to a certain systematic and digestable maner, less like a screaming match and more like a choir.

I find national Anthem with Patriotic undertone to be much more energetically moving than Rock Music, Hard Rock Music is raw energy, but a purposeless one, like a gallon of gasoline burning, but Patriotic Anthem as less explicitely Energetic but there is a systematic maner in which the energy is diverted toward, like burning gasoline inside an internal combustion engine. If that makes sense.

For Example when I hear Sliplnot and Metalica, the energy is there, there's screaming, there jumping, but what does it MEAN, what do I do whit this energy:


But When I'm listening to for Example "Marcha Real" the Spanish National Anthem, and understand the historical context, this music makes me envision myself as a Nationalist Spanish Soldier in the Civil War, perserving the Spanish Tradition, and Beyonetting degenerate Communists.


When I listen to 'Rhodesia Never Die' I sort of can empathize toward the Brave men and Woman who fought and die for Rhodesia.


Sure, Heavy Metal is more 'Complex' but I can Complexity with Classical. I don't know weather this makes me a boring person or one who's easily swayed by state propaganda, or both.

 

[ZenRaiden]

According to wiki heavy metal a subgenera called trash metal has nihilistic motives such as Slayer. Used to listen to them, but I listen to almost everything.

Regular heavy metal is pretty normal.

 

[Hadoblado]

Metal is not an ideology or belief. The aesthetic of metal is often about extremes not often explored, and one such extreme is devil worship. But I would be surprised if more than a few percent of metal musicians have any genuine worship of the devil. It's cosmetic, and most metal gimmicks can be boiled down to "you can't tell me not to".

For me, like dance music, metal makes your body want to move. But unlike dance music, it doesn't make it want to move in lockstep with others, but discordantly. It's galvanising in an aggressive and selfish way that other music isn't. There are still patterns and even choreography, but it's more about the personal release and recklessness.

Metal can also be very creative, taking what other musicians would consider a limit, and seeking ways to surpass it.

 

[ZenRaiden]

Metal can also be very creative, taking what other musicians would consider a limit, and seeking ways to surpass it.

Good point.
90 percent of music is about connection and love or lose of it.
Its not bad to hear those songs once in a while, but if you hear something all the time it loses meaning.
Especially I find it devalues the actual meaning of love. Since love is pretty unique and more rare experience than say having a flat tire or having a stressful day at work.
I think it makes sense since love is primary source of stress and also joy and probably from obvious natural point the most important bench mark for having kids propagating the species.
So the fact people put so much value to it, and sing about it as its peak emotion for humans and probably inspires and drives people.

However in reality this means lots of themes in life take backseat in music.
I find that kind of weird since even if love is defining thing for people its not exactly the only thing that defines life.

I therefore find genera that explore other topics or fringe topics or simply give alternative view of something interesting, be it crazy or melodic variations or combinations or simply weird for sake of weird.

Dark themes, thrillers and tragedy are pretty effervescent in all art anyhow.
Be it ancient ballads, Shakespeare, all the way to modern day stuff like metal.

 

[Black Rose]

There are still patterns and even choreography, but it's more about the personal release and recklessness.

Sometimes for me, it gets too violent and too vulgar.
But there are different levels to this. Like movies.
Some people would say what I listen to is satanic but it is lollipops to what I consider satanic.
To me the show "law and order" is satanic but my aunt watches it all the time. I told her why do you go to church if you watch this crap? You're a satanist, not a real Christian! It would be like playing songs about raping your mother and the crying sounds being played on the church auditory system. My aunt is retarded.

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

satan infiltrates everything (especially religion) and has a flavour for everyone. heavy metal emerged as a counterpoint to the upbeat plastic pop industry, appealing to those whose more burdened souls were disaffected by it and the rest of the mainstream cult(ure). meanwhile, in the realms of "science" and "education", satan had long been at work undermining biblical truth and convincing the world that he was just a myth, a cool symbol of the spirit of rebellion against irrational tyranny and the oppression of religions (which he actually caused lol). whether the musicians were merely deceived fools or knowing agents of satan was irrelevant as both perpetuated satan's agenda and normalised satanic symbolism and "worship" as cool and harmless

more insidious however are the occulted satanic themes which have always been present in the pop and other music genres which have led the mainstream to the very same destination. now that we are in the end times the mask is truly off and even the pop music is rife with open satanism. see for example: billie eilish - all the good girls go to hell/bury a friend, lil nas x - montero (call me by your name), arca - prada/rakata, sam smith - unholy (grammys performance), bjork - ancestress. these are just a few off the top of my head; they are legion. see also madonna's eurovision song contest 2019 performance and the london olympics 2012 opening ceremony which are both satanic ritual revelations of the covaids plandemic. witchcraft in plain sight

the end is near and satan isn't messing around. believe in Jesus and be saved <3

Spoiler: the devil's choir

Spoiler: satanic music industry exposed

 

[The Grey Man]

the end is near and satan isn't messing around. believe in Jesus and be saved <3

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