What is it like being a genious?

[QuickTwist]

I can't say I understand the dilemmas and struggles of the geniuses. I was under the assumption it was easy, so yesterday I started some propaganda that it is easier to be a genius that to be stupid err.. unintelligent. I made some comments and overall just tried to convey that the genius doesn't really know what real struggle is because they can basically solve any problem they come across. Most people probably don't even know that I was doing this which is typical that I would do something with a message and it would be completely lost on people because I suck at explaining stuff. I am just above average intelligence FYI, but if you're a genius you already know this.

So, whats it like being a genius? What are some of the struggles?

Also I spelled genius wrong on purpose.

 

[The Grey Man]

I wonder if anyone on this forum is vain enough to answer your questions. The word "genius" is typically a complement, reserved for other people in polite conversation, no?

 

[QuickTwist]

How about smarter than everyone else in the room. Does that clear things up?

http://youtu.be/QzX5cGKN6Eg

 

[The Grey Man]

You want a self-proclaimed smartest person in the room? In that case, Hugo Drax might want to retire from his ill-conceived eugenic fantasy land and contribute.

 

[Architect]

Anybody who answers probably isn't a genius, so in that case you'll have a false response. Anybody who actually is a genius won't answer, because they don't think they're a genius. Either way you won't find the truth.

Thinking you're a genius is a great way to kill your genius. Zero sum game.

 

[QuickTwist]

There are plenty of smart people here who know exactly what I am talking about. I want to hear from them.

I was going to post a clip of homer simpson being a genius but I can't find one that will do the job.

 

[QuickTwist]

Anybody who answers probably isn't a genius, so in that case you'll have a false response. Anybody who actually is a genius won't answer, because they don't think they're a genius. Either way you won't find the truth.

Thinking you're a genius is a great way to kill your genius. Zero sum game.

Shit, its one of those the truth is right under your nose type of things.

 

[The Grey Man]

There are plenty of smart people here who know exactly what I am talking about. I want to hear from them.

I was going to post a clip of homer simpson being a genius but I can't find one that will do the job.

Being a genius means producing written proof that God does not exist compelling enough for Ned Flanders to cover it up.

The struggle is when you become detached from and hurt your family. The solution is to shove the crayon back up your nose so that things will be back to normal when the next episode starts.

Thus, both your questions have answers, and then some. The Simpsons contains the meaning of life, if you look hard enough.

That show had its moments. Good times...

 

[Cherry Cola]

Come on you gotta have been the smartest person in the room at some point QT. I betcha most people here have been. It kinda sucks in the long run cause people don't get you and it makes you feel superior but lonely and it makes the things at which you are not superior to anyone else seem like achilles heels.

 

[QuickTwist]

I get no superiority rush. And yes, lol, I know there are plenty of forums where I would appear to be smarter that most, but I prefer to challenge myself, so I come here -where geniuses abound. I rarely if ever feel superior. I leave that to my best friend with Bipolar.

 

[Black Rose]

genius solve problems yes but they can not know everything all at once, they are limited also. if i had it all figured out i'd be God not a human being, we all get there at our own pace and its because of our programming because each of us has the potential not to be deprived of the social condition which tells us false identification is who we must be. neglected people don't develop there potential they atrophy. Even if my IQ is 112 i have broken the conditioning that tells me i must only think this way or that way. the scientific method allows me to go beyond IQ. the reason some people are considered genius is that they got past this barrier sooner. IQ 170 would not need to wast time on allowing themselves to do what society wants but what it needs. their minds have the clarity to mix the contents of their minds within themselves that society is understood for what it is and how to shape it. i can shape thing to some extent but it was because i imitated them not because i hold many ideas in my mind simultaneously although this is now my practice of doing so. to teach others is learning the others potential by letting them teach you your potential. The average person can be greater than the genius who wasn't raised by other geniuses.

 

[BrainVessel]

Going to disregard the word genius from the beginning because of its subjectivity.
I can of course never objectively say that I am the smartest person in the room because the smartitude spectrum is subjective and the people around me are almost certainly not displaying the full extent of their intelligence.

However, I can declare that 98.8% of the time I think myself to have the most rational opinion in the room(IRL, hardly ever know what's happening on the internet because I rarely care enough to keep informed and involved in places such as this)(disregarding the possibly unvoiced ones from other folk, of course) even though I hardly ever voice my opinions. Only ever do if I find the flawed logic coming out of an ENTJ's mouth(I find it entertaining correcting them because they're loud but still recognize logic and I actually feel productive when correcting them.[and also I find immense satisfaction in tearing down peoples arrogance and ENTJs tend to have it in abundance]) or it's a serious problem in which no one is considering the correct points. But for the most part I leave peoples' ignorance be. I gave up on trying to make the people around me comprehend logic and it's values years ago because when one reaps little result eventually frustration takes over, ya know. But like Cherry said

It kinda sucks in the long run cause people don't get you and it makes you feel superior but lonely and it makes the things at which you are not superior to anyone else seem like achilles heels.

It's ultimately isolating, believing oneself to have a higher intelligence than those around them. Feels like hardly anyone could ever venture to understand you and your thought processes.

In my experience, the raaaare occasions when I do open up to people a little they'll mention how they're intimidated/surprised by my intelligence and depth(and call me a creep or a freak in some weirdly endearing way I have yet to understand) and will agree with my points and mention how they "have never thought about it that way before" or something of the like. It just bolsters my idea of intellectual superiority which pushes me further into isolation.
I only am able to revere in the self-perceived superiority of my thought-processes when it is acknowledged by someone and it can enable me to share what I know more effectively via peoples' faith in me, so there really is no smug or satisfied rush of superiority for me.

This all sounds really bigoted buuuut I'm simply sharing my experience honestly so *explodes into a shower of kiwi feathers and Carl Sagan finger puppets*

 

[QuickTwist]

Being a genius means producing written proof that God does not exist compelling enough for Ned Flanders to cover it up.

The struggle is when you become detached from and hurt your family. The solution is to shove the crayon back up your nose so that things will be back to normal when the next episode starts.

Thus, both your questions have answers, and then some. The Simpsons contains the meaning of life, if you look hard enough.

That show had its moments. Good times...

Yes, this experience. this is what I want people to describe what is like.

 

[Hadoblado]

Anybody who answers probably isn't a genius, so in that case you'll have a false response. Anybody who actually is a genius won't answer, because they don't think they're a genius. Either way you won't find the truth.

Thinking you're a genius is a great way to kill your genius. Zero sum game.

This. Sort of.

When people start thinking of their own place within the thinking spectrum, they're falling for a red herring. It's the thought that counts, not the thinker. When ego enters the equation, people start conflating the quality of the thought with its origin, and logic is compromised.

IMO, genius as a term is only useful to describe thoughts that are unfathomable to you. By this reasoning, a genius cannot be legitimately self-proclaimed, as any thought a thinker has will be understood by themselves. This is why anyone who thinks themselves a genius is likely not someone you'd consider a genius.

Einstein was a genius because despite the numerous intelligent people around at the time, he was the only one able to think a particular thought without being taught it first.

 

[QuickTwist]

*snip*

Einstein was a genius because despite the numerous intelligent people around at the time, he was the only one able to think a particular thought without being taught it first.

Glad you brought up Einstein, he's a great example. So what would Einstein think of this thread? Can anyone say what the process is like to think of something before being taught it? I know a person who was reading complicated words at age 3. That is the type of stuff I think makes a person a genius IMO. Those are the type of people I want to hear from in this thread.

 

[Pyropyro]

I've worked with a lot of them in our university. They're not supremacists like most people expect but they do think weirdly. It's actually those who work with them that are mostly insecure and put on a lot of airs.

I think most of them are socially adjusted (being in their early 40's or late 30's) but still have difficulty with communicating their field to the uninitiated. It's probably like explaining quantum mechanics to a child.

Musical geniuses are a bit harder to read IMO (and therefore more intriguing). They're kind of mystical and temperamental at the same time. Probably it's because of my training though.

 

[dark+matters]

http://smile.amazon.com/TIME-Secret...F8&qid=1420022162&sr=1-1&keywords=time+genius

 

[QuickTwist]

That looks like a good book. I don't read books though

 

[Cognisant]

It's the thought that counts, not the thinker. When ego enters the equation, people start conflating the quality of the thought with its origin, and logic is compromised.

Genius.

You want a self-proclaimed smartest person in the room? In that case, Hugo Drax might want to retire from his ill-conceived eugenic fantasy land and contribute.

I don't know this Hugo Drax person but eugenics isn't essentially a bad idea, if we can selectively breed in/out certain traits in animals there's no reason we can't do it in people and creating different breeds of human may be quite advantageous, maybe we should breed theoretical physicists like racehorses

 

[QuickTwist]

Yeah I over looked that one so I guess what he just did there is what its like to be a genius. You aren't recognized as such until the time has past for you to be able to accept the praise of the thought which made you a genius in the first place.

 

[scenefinale]

It's a struggle.

 

[QuickTwist]

It's a struggle.

I take it you're not the mad professor type of genius. You are far too cold for that. You're more the, humor so dry it would cause lips to bleed type. What is the worst part of being a genius?

 

[ZenRaiden]

I am not a genius, but I can imagine what it is like. The issue is that being a original thinker or being ahead of others or thinking differently and not being able to share your own mental world fully with others can be a problem. Take for example INTPs. We have a world of our own and no one understands us. We are one of the MBTI type that dont take it for granted that someone actually gets us to the point where we can feel ourselves being around them. We just want to be ourselves for most part and when we can not afford to be such we are hidding our true feelings and thoughts. Its not only hard, but its taxing in such a way that we end up avoiding much of the people even when we wish that we could talk to them or a have a pleasant conversation or even be friends. Instead we are hemrits or schizoids or odd guys, nerds, or idiots.

 

[computerhxr]

Everyone is capable of genius. Genius labels are anchored to genius-killing expectations. Some people need the ego boost, and others need to be left alone so that they can work.

Personally, I dislike being called a genius. When someone calls me a genius I wonder where I went wrong... I prefer the term eccentric but I'm not rich enough to be one of those.

 

[QuickTwist]

LOL. Thank God for comical relief.

 

[thoughtfully]

If someone says you are they want to bask in your imagined glory. If you believe you are you want to bask in your own imafgined glory.

 

[Grayman]

IDK

Intelligence seems to cause more pain than the average person suffers due to the removal of ignorance. Perhaps with wisdom one can withstand the pain of knowledge. Primarily the question is what is the genius a genius off?

 

[nanook]

i've read something in a facebook picture about intelligence without responsibility (and a right to be receive/take responsibility over something) turning into automatic self-destruction. probably true.

 

[computerhxr]

Primarily the question is what is the genius a genius of?

In order of significance...

Intellectual Genius.
Creative Genius.
Literary Genius.
Musical Genius.
Fart Genius.
Super Genius.
Super-Duper Genius.
Cats.

 

[nanook]

heh, and the ruler of all cats is mega genius kim dot com

 

[Black Rose]

eighth place?
a nice place to be on the toten pole

 

[thoughtfully]

Why would one want to be a genius if they don't have intelligence? If they have intelligence on somthing they are most likely intelligent. If they are intelligent they know how to avoid pain.

 

[computerhxr]

eighth place?
a nice place to be on the totem pole

Yes, reverse hierarchy... Cats are most Genius!

 

[somebodiesfool]

always bigger fish in the sea

 

[Reluctantly]

I don't know, but I imagine it's a lot more fun being a rich genius than a poor genius. Actually, it's probably fun either way, even if you're stupid. I just want $$$

 

[QuickTwist]

I want to be a cat. They don't take no shit from no one and make everyone their biatch.

 

[Reluctantly]

^ I don't know why cats get that rep. The two cats I've had for pets have been sweet as hell to me. The last one I could chase and she'd give me these playful meows and jump on a table or window to get attention. I think she was afraid that she'd get stepped on or something; it was cute. I could cradle her like a baby and she'd completely relax and purr while I rubbed her scalp. Cats get this rep as creatures that manipulate to get what they want, but mine have always been affectionate. Then again it might partly be a reflection of how I am with them.

 

[QuickTwist]

You didn't have an unnuetered male cat that was indoor/out door then.

Also it was a complete joke

 

[Reluctantly]

That's true. I've seen a show where an indoor male cat was psycho because it wasn't neutered. They neutered it and suddenly it calmed down almost completely. I guess it really wanted to fuck. Seemed really weird to me.

 

[QuickTwist]

Are we having an actual conversation without being creative?

 

[Reluctantly]

 

[QuickTwist]

 

[Grayman]

Has anyone ever called any of you a genius with an aura of full integrity?

 

[computerhxr]

Cats get this rep as creatures that manipulate to get what they want, but mine have always been affectionate.

Affection is a manipulation tactic.

 

[computerhxr]

Has anyone ever called any of you a genius with an aura of full integrity?

Who has the aura of full integrity? The genius or the person calling someone a genius?

 

[Grayman]

Who has the aura of full integrity? The genius or the person calling someone a genius?

The person calling the other person a genius.

 

[Grayman]

Affection is a manipulation tactic.

Influence, not manipulation unless your affections are selfish likeyour affection toward vodka. The poor vodka never had a chance. But thats more desire than affection.

 

[computerhxr]

Influence, not manipulation unless your affections are selfish likeyour affection toward vodka. The poor vodka never had a chance. But thats more desire than affection.

The desire to affect is inherently selfish.

 

[Grayman]

The desire to affect is inherently selfish.

How do you personally define affection?

Mine is caring and caring for another at the expense of self is more selfless than selfish. One can argue anything is selfish if one wanted to as cynical as that.

 

[computerhxr]

How do you personally define affection?

Mine is caring and caring for another at the expense of self is more selfless than selfish. One can argue anything is selfish if one wanted to as cynical as that.

Middle English: via Old French from Latin affectio(n-), from afficere ‘to influence’.