What in life is worth living for?

[Black Rose]

warning: (existentialism)

It seems there is a threshold where the will to live gives up and nothing is left to live for. A person that has something to live for can overcome adversity and pain and agony because they hold onto a force the perpetuates them. If that force is lost they are let empty inside. This is a prolonged emptiness having to do with what is o be considered happiness and fulfillment.

Emptiness and fullness have a correlation in the brain. Both are states/feelings. Some people hurt themselves when sad, others being physically hurt makes it worse. Pain tolerance is a state. So there are a variety of states, thresholds, and defaults. The simplest reason for living is the act of holding on to something and not letting go. Emotion is involved because without emotion we cannot cling on to anything even our own lives.

We need attachments to survive. Emotional connection. We either receive it or induce it. Without it, there really isn't anything left.

 

[Cognisant]

I find it helps to have a purpose, something to chip away at bit by bit so even if you feel overwhelmed you can just focus on doing that one thing, making some progress however small it may be and over time that progress accumulates and you can look at what you've done and feel proud of how far you've come.

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step and every step of the way is just one more step.

 

[EndogenousRebel]

to create experiences that you cherish, create personal value in your life. I think the question shouldn't 'what in life is worth living for?' but should be 'what in life do I value?' once you answer that, you ask the question of how you get it, and like Cog says the journey goes from there.

I just so happen to value certain things and think in a peculiar way where I believe everything is connected, so I want to fix stuff, solve mine, people's, and the world's problems. Not only do I get the pleasure of fulfilling the "make the world a better place" complex, but I also get a kick out of solving the problems. It feels like I was meant to solve the problems and I'm getting better all the time. And if I get tired, I can alwasy retreat to a secure resting state.

Attachments are just beliefs that we don't wanna or are too complex to see at a glance. This emptiness you're referring to, everyone feels it on some level, and sometimes it's too overwhelming to bear. These days though, even when I do feel it, I know that it's mostly a lie, because I have so many things in my life that I am following, I have too much going on to be empty. I can feel hollow, but I know that soon that feeling will go away.

 

[buteco]

We need attachments to survive. Emotional connection. We either receive it or induce it. Without it, there really isn't anything left.

Yeah i think people are a web of connections which from the outside makes a whole, but looking closely there isnt a whole, Just a Lot of little knots and connections.
Those knots are not simply individual personality traits or function or whatever, they are the ground, the support for them. They are intuitive and immediate concepts, ideas that do not exist by themselves, but exist only on a web of connections. outside of that web they dont mean anything or dont exist.
eg reality only makes Sense within itself, outside of It os meaningless. A cat is Just a cat bc there are things that arent cats. IF all that existed was a cat, then cat wouldnt have the same meaning, or wouldnt have meaning at all. If reality didnt exist then the concept of nothing would be meaningless. Same with Men.
People only exist within a set of people that recognizes them as people and thus they recgonize themselves as individual bc they have a tribe that IS outside of them, which is actually outside and inside of them, construcitng the concept of being and the concept of not being.

 

[Black Rose]

I think that the serious effect of lack of meaning is a deficit in needs. Like love or food but in terms of neurochemistry. When you feel bad there is a reason for it. Like dehydration is caused by a lack of water. To go on living, psychologically a purpose is needed otherworlds it is like solitary confinement. Neurochemistry becomes unbalanced. Any psychological damage is neurological damage.

I caused a lot of damage to my brain but there are ways to fix it. A balanced brain will recover from strenuous activities. It all depends on what it can handle. Moderation.

Too much stress can spiral inward.
When life is easy it could be life is easier to live. You can hold on to things.

Stability is key.

 

[sushi]

life is trying to find meaning in randomness
since there is no meaning, your quest is abusrd

 

[Black Rose]

chemistry is not random, it follows the laws of physics, there are rules to what is meaningful and not. It is in the neurophysiology. The cyber loop of inside and outside.

 

[AntaresVII]

When you feel bad there is a reason for it.

Just a thought of mine:
It seems sometimes that this becomes a trap.
For me at least it just happens sometimes that I feel bad all of a sudden and I don't have a clue why, and I end up just standing there racking my mind trying to identify a cause that wont show itself.

Maybe its some of the overarching stresses coming through for some minor reason, but most of the time I end up deciding to just ignore it as best I can and keep on with whatever I'm doing until it gradually fades into the background or maybe away, I'm not sure since there's always some background stress anyway.

And basically until I reach the point of blowing it off I'm trapped in a fruitless search for cause where if there is one it's just beyond me.
Maybe at some point we find out the causes and problem solved, but until then it doesn't seem to do any good to dwell on the problems we have no hope of solving when there are others we damn well can and aren't bc we're obsessing over the fact that there are ones we can't.

Idk, it's never clear to me what I should be doing

 

[onesteptwostep]

For others .-.