What are you studying this term?

[Minuend]

So I'm going for biotechnology, I think. My subjects are:

Introduction course to biotechnology and chemistry (mostly lab work).
Cell biology
General microbiology

These are pretty much required to take more advanced lessons. Since I have an interest in science, I expect it to go well. This summer I read about the human cells in a human physiology book, so I have some grounds.

Examen philosophicum
Some math course

The norm is 30 points half a year, I'm taking 35. I kinda want to take 40, but I am new to this uni and need some time to get adjusted. I also want to use this semester to see how much is required- if I have time to take more subjects.

I'm excited ^^

 

[xbox]

Oh man I remember those classes when I was doing med. Sooo glad I don't have to do them anymore. No offense.

My classes start next week though.

Calculus 2
Physics 1 with Calculus
Piano
Guitar

(Pre-engineering classes with a minor in music.) I actually want to take some english/speech/literature/debate classes as well.

I dont know. So much stuff to learn.

 

[ApostateAbe]

Physical oceanography, acoustics, directed research.

 

[Words]

I'm glad that your glad about this, Minuend. Hopefully, the people will contribute more than the book.

I'm studying something about propo logic. Not enjoying it because its expressed logic. Expressed logic, I find, are too conventional and too presumptuous. And my teacher is way too conventional, so my ideas aren't well interpreted by his context.

 

[EditorOne]

Public insurance adjusting. It may be another of those little understood occupations peculiarly suited to INTPs, with a core body of knowledge to be mastered and then an infinitely diverse universe of situations to deal with. I'll keep everyone posted. Right now I'm mastering the core body of knowledge.

 

[Dormouse]

My classes for this semester are as follows.

Section/Course Title

01/Sex Life of a Daffodil
19/False Enthusiasm 101
01/Linear Algebra
01/The Course Everyone has been Warning you about for the Past Year
04/Introduction to Irrational Debates
16/Over-Analysis: Dead Poets Issue

 

[Ozymandias]

This thread depresses me. Was supposed to start philosophy in Oslo about now, but didn't get in due to shitty grades. Now I have to work for one more year, ugh.

I saw that exact study of yours was available at restetorget but I don't have physics from vgs so I'm gonna do that now as a privatist and apply for some engineering stuff next year.

 

[dark]

My classes are:

- Practical Reasoning - PHI 100

- Twentieth Century Philosophy - PHI 330

- Metaphysics - PHI 350

- Ethics Bowl - PHI 388

- Classical Political Theory - PHI 551W

I am excited about these classes. I would have taken another class but decided to keep 15 credit hours so I can take time and get used to the university since I just transferred here and making a couple friends seemed more important than one more class.

 

[Agent Intellect]

CHM 260+261 - Organic Chemistry + Lab.
BIO 121+122 - Human Anatomy and Physiology + Lab.
PHI 207 - Contemporary Moral Choices. (Needed for humanities credit).
CO 101 - Computer Applications. (Because I'm a computer retard).

 

[Latro]

More chem than I want to take, to be perfectly honest:
Instrumental analysis lecture
Instrumental analysis lab (a SIX HOUR LAB )
Inorganic chem lecture

And two of the following:
Abstract algebra
Modern applied mathematics I
Atmospheric chemistry

Still haven't decided on which two, but I'm thinking abstract algebra and atmospheric chemistry at the moment. I'm a math/chem major; came in as a chem major, intended to be a math minor, did more math than I probably needed to for a while, then became a math major in spring 2010 to be in a research program. Now I like math more than chem but don't think it's reasonable to drop chem entirely, even though there are math classes I'd like to take and I plan to go to graduate school in math. =/

 

[ApostateAbe]

This thread depresses me. Was supposed to start philosophy in Oslo about now, but didn't get in due to shitty grades. Now I have to work for one more year, ugh.

I saw that exact study of yours was available at restetorget but I don't have physics from vgs so I'm gonna do that now as a privatist and apply for some engineering stuff next year.

Because of your crappy grades, you just saved the rest of your life from the precipice of poverty that follows a liberal arts degree. Congratulations!

 

[ApostateAbe]

My classes are:

- Practical Reasoning - PHI 100

- Twentieth Century Philosophy - PHI 330

- Metaphysics - PHI 350

- Ethics Bowl - PHI 388

- Classical Political Theory - PHI 551W

I am so sorry.

 

[dark]

I am so sorry.

No worries, I know I'll be poor as hell, but at least I will be happy doing what I want to do instead of what everyone else wants me to do.

 

[ApostateAbe]

No worries, I know I'll be poor as hell, but at least I will be happy doing what I want to do instead of what everyone else wants me to do.

If you start now, then you can be well-prepared to work night shifts.

 

[dark]

Yeah I should be mopping floors in about 6 years after I get my PhD

 

[ApostateAbe]

Yeah I should be mopping floors in about 6 years after I get my PhD

Stop screwing around on the Internet and build your mind and your resume to compete with the thousands of other grad school applicants.

 

[dark]

Already ahead of you on that. I am about 5 books in ahead of where I should be already. My exgf thought I was crazy for reading and buying all those philosophy books, but hell I am sure it will help. Though I am completely unsure how resumes work and how I can make one now... I do know that last semester I volunteered community service to feed people, and this semester I am a member of my universities ethics debate team, not sure if those are useful for resumes though.

 

[dark]

Stop screwing around on the Internet and build your mind and your resume to compete with the thousands of other grad school applicants.

Yeah just recently I escaped my depression that I didn't even know I had which lasted almost 6 or more months. The entire time I didn't read any books, didn't do anything really to help myself intellectually, all I did was play video games to escape what was happening, I am not sure what pulled me out of my depression, I guess the breakup with my ex is what gave me what I needed, I know it is odd, but I do believe she was the reason for my depression, at least I learned something from it, more of a life lesson than anything.

Grad school applications... I had never heard of that, I have 1.5-2 years until I will be a grad student, but I am now sure I should be planning ahead of where I want to go and apply for as many as possible right?

 

[ApostateAbe]

Already ahead of you on that. I am about 5 books in ahead of where I should be already. My exgf thought I was crazy for reading and buying all those philosophy books, but hell I am sure it will help. Though I am completely unsure how resumes work and how I can make one now... I do know that last semester I volunteered community service to feed people, and this semester I am a member of my universities ethics debate team, not sure if those are useful for resumes though.

You are still screwing around on the Internet.

 

[dark]

Of course I am, it is midnight and I already turned off my lights, I am relaxing from working which came from getting myself ready to move into the university, also have spent 2 hours reading various books, one Republic, which is part of my reading list this semester. No worries, I'll probably disappear quite soon again once I start going to class every day.

 

[Lostwitheal]

I am so sorry.

What's wrong with his list of courses? I have a friend with a degree in philosophy who works for the British Government in the Foreign Office. He's not doing badly at all.

 

[ApostateAbe]

What's wrong with his list of courses? I have a friend with a degree in philosophy who works for the British Government in the Foreign Office. He's not doing badly at all.

I think you are right. I undervalued a philosophy degree, but maybe it is not so bad. A big study by PayScale Inc. claims that the mid-career median salary is 81,000 USD.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-Degrees_that_Pay_you_Back-sort.html

I have been talking a lot of smack about philosophy degrees. Oops! I am thinking maybe a philosophy degree gives the air of smarts for a job applicant?

 

[Minuend]

More chem than I want to take, to be perfectly honest:
Instrumental analysis lecture
Instrumental analysis lab (a SIX HOUR LAB )
Inorganic chem lecture

Lab wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that
1. you have to follow an exact recipe (well, at least at my level)
2. you have to work with another student.

So far I've been with one who were wayyy too nevrotic. I mean, he freaked out when he thought I was doing something wrong. (Which I weren't). He kept pacing around and eventually asked some other students what we were supposed to do. Meanwhile I was sitting feet crossed at the grass waiting for aerial bacteria to land on my petri dish.

Then I got set up with one who was okay, I suppose. I don't want to work with her again, tho. Today I was with a slight control freak who kept taking my work from me and attempted to boss me around. She wanted us to work on the rapport together tomorrow but I'm definitively lying my way out of that one!

 

[dark]

I particularly enjoy group work, not groups with a lot of people though in labs though it just seems redundant. But a partnership in a lab was always fun to me. Group work is a time in which people think I am intelligent and I actually get to enjoy it, other times people think the same thing but I don't enjoy it because it puts me separate from everyone else.

Best lab work I've had was my physics lab when I was a freshman in college and my two groupies were juniors, both engineers with more math and science than myself and they thought I was a genius because I had a natural niche at doing the physics lab work, thankfully my overactive Ne was doing all the amazing work .

 

[Smooch]

First time in college student here!
My classes:

English I
Speech
College Algebra
Macro Economics

 

[Cavallier]

I have been talking a lot of smack about philosophy degrees. Oops! I am thinking maybe a philosophy degree gives the air of smarts for a job applicant?

And really we need to be smacked around more often.

I got a degree in Lit and Philosophy and I'm doing rather well for myself. I've got a job when most I know don't and I don't have any real outstanding debt like most I know. But, it's not as if I figured I'd ever actually get a job in what I studied at Uni. Nope. I work on computers now.

Something I've discovered that's utterly disgusting/frustrating/true is that unless you are going for a very high level job such as Doctor/Lawyer whatever you got your degree in doesn't really matter much. It's how well you interview, luck, and being a quick learner in your first few trial weeks once you get the job.

At least, that's my experience.

*Edit: I'm taking a class this summer: Motorcycle riding. You have to take a class to get a license where I live. Then it's on to open roads and delicious leather. Oh yeah.

 

[Agent Intellect]

Out of curiosity, what do they teach for a philosophy degree? It seems to me that most of what you study could be done on your own time, since the material is all available to anyone, and no special equipment or hands-on training is required.

 

[Oblivious]

CS 200 - Basics of Computer Graphics

CS 225 - Intermediate C++

GAM 200 - 2D Game Project

MAT 200 - Calc 2

PHY 200 - Classical Mechanics

 

[d32123]

Stats
English 101
World Pre-history

My first year of college. Definitely want to start taking a language next quarter but idk which one to take. Maybe Chinese or Japanese to challenge myself.

 

[Cavallier]

Out of curiosity, what do they teach for a philosophy degree? It seems to me that most of what you study could be done on your own time, since the material is all available to anyone, and no special equipment or hands-on training is required.

Well, there's a lot of varying things that fall under the study of philosophy. There are a plethora of areas you can focus on. Obviously, the reading you can do on your own but it's a joy to have a group of people with whom you can discuss what you've read. Having someone who knows the material inside and out and has spent the last 30 years studying it is a great resource as well. Also, what's nice about taking classes on the subject is the amount of time and care given to context (both historical and topical). Philosophy, like literature, loses a lot without context. Ultimately that's why I focused on literature and philosophy with a smattering of history.

Also, several of my classes focused on hard core logic skills. I took logic theory that only high level mathematics students take. It was the theory of various mathematical principles but without the actual numbers. I loved those classes. They were hard but I really enjoyed them. It was mental gymnastics of a sort.

Last, I learned how to set up a really good argument. Most people can't argue themselves out of a paper bag without using emotional tactics. To be able to look at a discourse from all sides with a cold critical eye (and as unbiased as is possible) and then be able to logically back up a position has become a life skill I use every day.

My philosophy classes taught me to think and process information better than I would have been able to otherwise. Ultimately though I don't think most people actually need a college education in most subjects because they could teach themselves what they need to know with a book and some determination. Other than technical subjects of course. Mostly, Uni just teaches us the skills we need to better incorporate ourselves into a field. It teaches us to fit the mold better.

....but it sure can be a hell of a lot of fun anyway.

 

[Minuend]

Also, several of my classes focused on hard core logic skills. I took logic theory that only high level mathematics students take. It was the theory of various mathematical principles but without the actual numbers. I loved those classes. They were hard but I really enjoyed them. It was mental gymnastics of a sort.

Interesting. What books did you read in that class?

 

[Puffy]

Hmm. My humanities course feels undervalued (don't worry Dark, I'll defend your philosophy degree :P)

The Holocaust through literature (graphic novels - joy) & film
Imagining the public scene
Dissertation (NOOOOOOOO!)

I'm actually really happy with this; I've considered studying film many times but never taken that leap of faith, being able to incorporate that and graphic novels into a study of history will be very fun for me. My main interests - which sort of overlap in my modules - are mnemonics (study of memory) and oral history.

 

[dark]

My current book list is:

Republic (Plato)
Nichomachean Ethics (Aristotle)
Metaphysics (Aristotle)
Attacking Faulty Reasoning (Damer)
A History of Western Philosophy: The Twentieth Century to Quine and Derrida (Jones)
Ethics in Action (Connolly)

 

[James Black]

Drawing for Design I
Intro to Discrete Structures
Intro to Logic
Computer Logic Design (With lab)

AND...
http://ai-class.org/
http://ml-class.org/
http://db-class.org/

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Still in my 'first year' too.

Existentialism
Intro to Political Science
Macroeconomics

Pre-engineering / CE major plan

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Out of curiosity, what do they teach for a philosophy degree? It seems to me that most of what you study could be done on your own time, since the material is all available to anyone, and no special equipment or hands-on training is required.

And such is the plight of modern philosophy!

Lower standards has pushed out all the high class philosophers, and so we are gradually becoming more and more sophistric.

Who will create our Socrates?

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Physics and engineering.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Currently: mathematics

Soon to be: psychology and philosophy

I wasn't learning what I wanted from maths, except from independent reading, so I'm not going to bother any more, it's stressing me out. Psychology and philosophy fit more naturally, the maths before was just "easy" so I easily mastered it. Now the stuff is so damn esoteric I don't know what they're saying (except, again, what my own study has revealed).

I avoid incorrect ways of seeing things, I don't pursue correct ways. Essentially, I gather whatever I find, sift it in order to find the seeds, but I have little interest in actually growing those seeds.

Compare this to Ne+Si, which gathers only particular kinds of dirt and rocks, whilst only growing seeds. I see some game theory coming on.

In fact, I think all of Typology is game theory analysable, and this is the branch of Typology which interests me most.

 

[Sijov]

I'm final year civil engineering (2 months to go!) and I'm finally taking some electives:

Pavement Engineering
Advanced Hydrology
Personality (a psychology paper)
Project Management (commerce paper)

Admittedly, the commerce paper is not really what I had in mind, as it'll be a little too useful, but I'm loving the psychology.

 

[digital angel]

I want classes.