What are the biggest issues for introverts?

[Andrew Blogger]

Hi guys,
I am a blogger who is planning to write a series of posts for introverts of all types, and I’d be grateful if you could answer a few questions so that I can create some content that is both useful and interesting to people.

1. What are the biggest issues you face as an introvert?
   
2. What do you think about the information and resources that are currently available and aimed at introverts online?

Thanks in advance, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions.


Andrew

 

[TimeAsylums]

What are the biggest issues for introverts?

1. Extroverts
2. Life

 

[cloudhead]

1. Extroverts
2. Life

That's... pretty accurate.

3. Suddenly realizing you haven't said anything in almost an hour, and you aren't quite sure if everybody has noticed that you are even there.

4. Phone calls.

 

[Jennywocky]

1. Extroverts
2. Life

Wait, you're not even an introvert!

 

[TimeAsylums]

Wait, you're not even an introvert!

"know thy enemy"

"keep your friends close..."

Spoiler

if you had read my incredibly tl;dr narcissistic intro post of myself you would know I identified as an introverts for the first ~ 14 yrs of meh life

 

[Jennywocky]

5. Speaking up IRL within a quick-enough time frame that I get my point in.
6. Creating space with the world adding time-sensitive and noise pressure.
7. Being dismissed / having the absence of quick decision-making and communicating be read as non-existent opinions or capabilities


AS far as the other question, I usually figure stuff out on my own and don't read articles about introverting.

 

[Helvete]

Small talk. New people.

What's been said already

 

[The Void]

1) Nothing.
2) Nothing.

 

[Cherry Cola]

1. The almost categorically extroverted world of the west.
2. Lack of ambition and drive.
3. Failure to consider all the relevant data.

 

[TimeAsylums]

3. Failure to consider all the relevant data.

Though nobody nearly considers as much as Ne, even da other Extros, it really isn't an issue for introverts, with your dominant functions being Introverted as they are, it's best suited for action via the way they are.

tl;dr the narrow-mindedness best suits their capabilities

 

[Void]

What are the biggest issues for introverts?

Everything directly and to a lesser extent indirectly involving people, mainly, if not exclusively, extroverts.

TimeAsylums fully answered your question actually. I would argue though that life is made significantly harder for us by extroverts, and would be relatively do-able without them, so IMO life and all the other answers in this thread boil down to people being the issue. Better question would be: How come people are an issue for introverts?

Spoiler

Energy Juice

 

[Cherry Cola]

Though nobody nearly considers as much as Ne, even da other Extros, it really isn't an issue for introverts, with your dominant functions being Introverted as they are, it's best suited for action via the way they are.

tl;dr the narrow-mindedness best suits their capabilities

You could say that their potential is only there because they hone it instead of realizing it too though. There's a strenght for every weakness in a sense.

 

[Architect]

The biggest hurdle is keeping reign on yourself; which is controlling the insidious process of what happens when you live in an extroverted culture. Without intending to you become more extroverted, you can't help it, there is so much extroversion around you that it slowly changes how you view introversion and extroversion and infects your basic self. I've lived in some highly introverted cultures, and an introvert in the U.S. is an extrovert anywhere else.

The second is other people - extroverts naturally. Not apparently content with the brain washing they've already accomplished, they want you to like acting (pretending rather) like an extrovert. You can't just be extroverted, you have to join in all their extroverted activities and be one of the Muggles. They won't stop harassing you about it either, they find it distressing when there's even one person who isn't running around screaming at the top of their lungs like they are.

The net result is psychic drain, and a debasement of what is probably the most creative subgroup of our population.

Second question, that's a vague one. I'll just say the best resource is Susan Cain's book and forums like this. Facebook is a jungle dominated by the extraverts screaming at you from The Wall. One must be selective in what online resources they use.

 

[BigApplePi]

What are the biggest issues you face as an introvert?

Answer: For me it depends on my life situation. I'm a committed introvert. One issue is being left alone when I want to be alone. The other is making contact with others when I need or wish to make contact. Ask me that question any time and I think I will give you the same answer.

What do you think about the information and resources that are currently available and aimed at introverts online?

On-line forums and bulletin boards are great. The reason: Because I can control the amount of social interaction. My feelings toward Facebook are akin to Architect's: I will run from it like the plague. The reason? I have an idea but am not ready to answer that. I will tell you that what happened when I went to register so disgusted me I refused to have anything to do with it. Maybe it was my fault; may not. Doesn't matter. My wife loves it, but she is an "S."

 

[Hawkeye]

Job interviews that require you to sit on a stool in the middle of a room, 12ft away from your interviewers and their table...

 

[Brontosaurie]

the narrow-mindedness

say that again

 

[BigApplePi]

Job interviews that require you to sit on a stool in the middle of a room, 12ft away from your interviewers and their table...

I've only had two job interviews in my life. The first one I was 22 or 23. I put on my suit because I knew it was required. The only time I wore a suit was when I went to church and I didn't go to church. Anyway the interviewer was not technical like the job I was applying for. What was he? Some kind of extrovert? He said I was fine young man. He looked me up and down, stopping at my brown shoes. He paused ... I realized they were scuffed up and unpolished. I'll never forget that pause. Maybe I would have liked to have taken my palm and polished his nose with it. What was the matter with him? He hired me anyway.

 

[Jennywocky]

"know thy enemy"

"keep your friends close..."

Spoiler

if you had read my incredibly tl;dr narcissistic intro post of myself you would know I identified as an introverts for the first ~ 14 yrs of meh life

Begone, J. Evans Prithard PHD! Rip him out! I want him gone, I want him history.

I want to hear nothing but the ripping of Mr. Pritchard.


Add'l point:
Not having my weird sense of humor be understood.

 

[Architect]

Job interviews that require you to sit on a stool in the middle of a room, 12ft away from your interviewers and their table...

How about being center stage at one of the worlds major concert halls, with it entirely empty and black, and a conductor and a few people sitting out in the audience judging you? That was interesting.

 

[BigApplePi]

Add'l point:
Not having my weird sense of humor be understood.

You do not have a weird sense of humor. You are normal. Everyone else is crazy.

My wife tried to convince me I was crazy this morning. I told her it was not so. Everyone else was. She refused to believe me, but I'm right.

 

[Helvete]

Add'l point:
Not having my weird sense of humor be understood.

*tells joke, receives weird looks all round. Lets them know it was a joke, maybe 1 or 2 awkward laughs*

Story of my life.

 

[Hawkeye]

How about being center stage at one of the worlds major concert halls, with it entirely empty and black, and a conductor and a few people sitting out in the audience judging you? That was interesting.

It's weird because I had to do something similar, but I didn't feel as bad as sitting on a stool. I wonder if it's because I had a guitar to hide behind. Hmm...

 

[Jennywocky]

*tells joke, receives weird looks all round. Lets them know it was a joke, maybe 1 or 2 awkward laughs*

Story of my life.

*crickets*


But ... sigh... yes.
Yet it doesn't seem to stop either of us, does it?

case in point:

How about being center stage at one of the worlds major concert halls, with it entirely empty and black, and a conductor and a few people sitting out in the audience judging you? That was interesting.

Sounds like a ripe opportunity to pay off some folks to carpet bomb the place.

"Did I pass? Well, no one complained, after."

 

[DelusiveNinja]

What's been on my mind for some time is the notion that my ideas come from this thundercloud made of a tense substance that causes things to go in easily and come out difficulty. An inexorable force is required to get things like kites and toy helicopters to come out of the cloud, and by the time they do come down from high above they have been distorted, destroyed, or convoluted by the heavy winds caused by language.

The process of translating my world of abstractions into words is exhausting (kinda like translating Python to C++), but without execution my voice would never be heard. Therefore, I struggle and fall into a hole of aggressive perfectionism when I talk in real time. It takes about 10 seconds for me to really get going with what I want to say with out being self-conscious. After that 10 seconds every thing flows out in the way it should.

I am determined to explain myself and rarely give up trying to do so. When I am chilling or doing homework, my mind is always grappling and pulling at a kite, in hopes of bringing to the ground. Then, when I have it in my hands, I get up with an explosion of energy to explain my idea aloud, but by then it's too late. Hence, the excessive self-talk and rubber ducky debugging.

I'm the type of person who stores an idea for a long period of time, adding large pieces of information to it, so that the moment I am asked about it or the topic pops up I can blow people away with a roar of my mindset.

 

[Helvete]

*crickets*


But ... sigh... yes.
Yet it doesn't seem to stop either of us, does it?

case in point:


Sounds like a ripe opportunity to pay off some folks to carpet bomb the place.

"Did I pass? Well, no one complained, after."

I'm sorry, was that a joke?

I also don't show any humour when a tell a joke, so it often gets perceived as sarcasm or complete seriousness. That's not to say I don't find it funny myself, but I just don't show it.
Nowadays I do it to see what reactions from people I can get.
A sort of in joke unrelated to the joke with just myself. Is that weird? aha

 

[Jennywocky]

I'm sorry, was that a joke?

Well, only in that I probably can't afford the cost of carpet bombing an isolated auditorium... although I am inventive, so reporting a few terrorists planning their next attack on the United States while sitting in an auditorium pretending to listen to someone's jury performance might actually do the trick.

I also don't show any humour when a tell a joke, so it often gets perceived as sarcasm or complete seriousness. That's not to say I don't find it funny myself, but I just don't show it.

I used to deadpan everything the way you are stating.
Now, sometimes I'll laugh.

But then they just think I'm weird because I'm laughing at something they didn't realize was a joke. You just can't win with these people.

Nowadays I do it to see what reactions from people I can get.
A sort of in joke unrelated to the joke with just myself. Is that weird? aha

Well, it made ME laugh.

I actually do laugh outwardly (without comment) when people do things that I totally expected them to do. There's a kind of joy in the aHA! of having my hunches affirmed. That one gets some looks too.


... I suppose this is still on topic. Maybe even an object lesson. (I also laugh at the expectations of non-members who join multiple communities and spam the same thread just to ask them for things.)

 

[tvrgvryen]

being misunderstood

 

[Hawkeye]

being misunderstood

What do you mean?

 

[Void]

What do you mean?

That's brilliant, that is.

 

[Goku]

Define issue

Define biggest

 

[Helvete]

Well, only in that I probably can't afford the cost of carpet bombing an isolated auditorium... although I am inventive, so reporting a few terrorists planning their next attack on the United States while sitting in an auditorium pretending to listen to someone's jury performance might actually do the trick.



I used to deadpan everything the way you are stating.
Now, sometimes I'll laugh.

But then they just think I'm weird because I'm laughing at something they didn't realize was a joke. You just can't win with these people.



Well, it made ME laugh.

I actually do laugh outwardly (without comment) when people do things that I totally expected them to do. There's a kind of joy in the aHA! of having my hunches affirmed. That one gets some looks too.


... I suppose this is still on topic. Maybe even an object lesson. (I also laugh at the expectations of non-members who join multiple communities and spam the same thread just to ask them for things.)

Pffft, the "I'm sorry, was that a joke" was actually a joke And now I'm laughing at the confusion of the two jokes.

The rate of dead panning will often depend on how well I know the person, or rather, the better I know someone the better they'll understand my dead panning...

The looks you get are the best part surely aha.

And oh yes this'll be the first in depth discussion talk about in the article aha

 

[Hawkeye]

Define issue

Define biggest

Well, issues in this context are more than likely referring to things which can be problematic.

Biggest is pretty unambiguous.

 

[Helvete]

Well, issues in this context are more than likely referring to things which can be problematic.

Biggest is pretty unambiguous.

You mean, the most problematic problems? o.O

 

[Void]

You mean, the most problematic problems? o.O

So biggest means most problematic? Damn, and there I was, always wishing to be the biggest kid in the classroom...

 

[Hawkeye]

You mean, the most problematic problems? o.O

Yes.

Although , when one uses the words like biggest or most, the answer can only be singular.

 

[Helvete]

So biggest means most problematic? Damn, and there I was, always wishing to be the biggest kid in the classroom...

Context related though

Just scoff more Big Mac's, you'd of soon got there.

 

[Marcel]

The almost categorically extroverted world of the west.

Not apparently content with the brain washing they've already accomplished, they want you to like acting (pretending rather) like an extrovert. You can't just be extroverted, you have to join in all their extroverted activities and be one of the Muggles. They won't stop harassing you about it either, they find it distressing when there's even one person who isn't running around screaming at the top of their lungs like they are. The net result is psychic drain, and a debasement of what is probably the most creative subgroup of our population.

CULTURE IRRITATION: Often manifests itself in terms of “Item Irritation” and is usually traceable to a few observable behaviors that are common in the culture, and to which an individual reacts particularly strongly (a personal “hot button”). These may include spitting, hygiene, verbal harassment, public displays (affection, drunkenness, etc.), or other overt behaviors to which an individual has a strong negative response.

We are expected to share the company of these extroverts without complaining though they spend their days talking nonsense when they are not just preoccupied with moving their bodies.

If we try to stop this madness and give a short improvised lecture, explaining internal and external devaluation and the Trans-European Automated Real-time Gross Settlement Express Transfer System as a bonus, the extroverts are successfully silenced for 20 minutes only.

Then they realize their loss of face and become really aggressive because it was caused by an introvert who should be easy prey for them. They continue their African palaver, and we know that an additional lecture about their communication style would ruin the so-called party.

Extroverts fail to understand that they are the problem. That they are not suitable for our purpose of a satisfying conversation. They fail to understand that we are not empty bottles who admire them, they fail to understand that for us they are just empty bottles with a tiny feeling module that replaces the ALU.

... aimed at introverts ...

Have your sights on extroverts, please. From the authors of self-help texts we get a prescription for one of these bores as our new lover and thus become exiles in our own caves.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

What are the biggest issues for introverts?

This has been discussed countless times, there are books and blogs dedicated to it and the internet culture is pretty much in appreciation.

As a contrast, to put introversion and extraversion into perspective, I wonder What are the biggest issues for extraverts? Is it frustrating for them to deal with introverts?

The social definitions of the terms can work as well, but still consider that introverts and extraverts probably also process information differently.

 

[Goku]

Well, issues in this context are more than likely referring to things which can be problematic.

Biggest is pretty unambiguous.

Mainly, I'm really unconvinced at anything the original poster says. If he is an introvert then he should already have some content for his first few posts. If he is an extravert, then it would be like a man trying to blog about the trials and tribulations of having PMS.

Either way, I find it very presumptuous that the author is going to create content that introverts are going find both "useful" and "interesting." Someone capable of creating this type of content would not have to resort to such elementary methods to get ideas for his/her first few posts.

If he could create useful and interesting content for introverts, I figured he would have already done so within this thread, which he did not, so I am rebelling from answering this thread seriously.

Someone who makes such bold claims, of being able to provide useful and interesting content to introverts, must first be charged with proving this claim before I am going to assist him with his endeavor.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Fraternities and how cool & valuable it makes one look if they're spotted in public with one or more (preferably more) other individuals, especially if they have been spotted in public solo before.

 

[Base groove]

Themselves, obv.